Yeah, it seems to have died down.. I haven't been working behind the scenes, but as far as the audio streams go there isn't anything to do anyway: I've got the setup already and done this a number of times.
What would you stream out? The setup I normally use can accept multiple streams or pull them, transcode them and send them out to a deflection host.
Gr,
Koen
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Is anyone working on this behind the scenes? It seems to have gone quiet on the list.
I ask as I will be working on how we get audio streams out of the venues and wanted to see if there was anyone to give them to from emfm.
All the best,
Sol
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On 14 June 2012 17:28, Koen Martens <g...@sonologic.nl> wrote:
> ** Hi,
> Yeah, it seems to have died down.. I haven't been working behind the
> scenes, but as far as the audio streams go there isn't anything to do
> anyway: I've got the setup already and done this a number of times.
> What would you stream out? The setup I normally use can accept multiple
> streams or pull them, transcode them and send them out to a deflection host.
Great, I was just going to be offering analogue outputs from the mixing
desks and let emfm take it from there.
Have you confirmed running of this on the main list? I only ask as I
thought we were still approaching people to fill this roll, may be worth
re-offering.
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:01:26PM +0100, Charles Yarnold wrote:
> On 14 June 2012 17:28, Koen Martens <g...@sonologic.nl> wrote:
> > Yeah, it seems to have died down.. I haven't been working behind the
> > scenes, but as far as the audio streams go there isn't anything to do
> > anyway: I've got the setup already and done this a number of times.
> > What would you stream out? The setup I normally use can accept multiple
> > streams or pull them, transcode them and send them out to a deflection host.
> Great, I was just going to be offering analogue outputs from the mixing
> desks and let emfm take it from there.
> Have you confirmed running of this on the main list? I only ask as I
> thought we were still approaching people to fill this roll, may be worth
> re-offering.
I have not confirmed it, no, as I was not yet picking this up as a task,
but given that it needs to be done and that I have the experience, I surely
want to go for it!
I can work with analog inputs, np. Let me get my project planning for the
next half year into order, and get things seriously on the rails regarding
all this.
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:01:26PM +0100, Charles Yarnold wrote:
> > On 14 June 2012 17:28, Koen Martens <g...@sonologic.nl> wrote:
> > > Yeah, it seems to have died down.. I haven't been working behind the
> > > scenes, but as far as the audio streams go there isn't anything to do
> > > anyway: I've got the setup already and done this a number of times.
> > > What would you stream out? The setup I normally use can accept multiple
> > > streams or pull them, transcode them and send them out to a deflection
> host.
> > Great, I was just going to be offering analogue outputs from the mixing
> > desks and let emfm take it from there.
> > Have you confirmed running of this on the main list? I only ask as I
> > thought we were still approaching people to fill this roll, may be worth
> > re-offering.
> I have not confirmed it, no, as I was not yet picking this up as a task,
> but given that it needs to be done and that I have the experience, I surely
> want to go for it!
> I can work with analog inputs, np. Let me get my project planning for the
> next half year into order, and get things seriously on the rails regarding
> all this.
I've actually done a bit of work on the FM license - and it looks very
much like we won't get the RSL. There's already a number of RSLs
going on in the area, including one which is as a trial for a local
community station. Ofcom RLS person also said that they're getting
flooded by license applications for olympic stations, and the
turnaround time will likely be quite slow.
Therefore, looks like we'll have to do it purely streaming. Which, to
be honest, makes life a lot easier and also less expensive -
especially as it seems we've got the kit to do streaming done already.
Chris Roberts
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> I've actually done a bit of work on the FM license - and it looks very
> much like we won't get the RSL. There's already a number of RSLs
> going on in the area, including one which is as a trial for a local
> community station. Ofcom RLS person also said that they're getting
> flooded by license applications for olympic stations, and the
> turnaround time will likely be quite slow.
> Therefore, looks like we'll have to do it purely streaming. Which, to
> be honest, makes life a lot easier and also less expensive -
> especially as it seems we've got the kit to do streaming done already.
> No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> On 19 June 2012 20:22, Charles Yarnold <charlesyarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 19 June 2012 20:19, Koen Martens <g...@sonologic.nl> wrote:
>>> Hi Charles,
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:01:26PM +0100, Charles Yarnold wrote:
>>> > On 14 June 2012 17:28, Koen Martens <g...@sonologic.nl> wrote:
>>> > > Yeah, it seems to have died down.. I haven't been working behind the
>>> > > scenes, but as far as the audio streams go there isn't anything to do
>>> > > anyway: I've got the setup already and done this a number of times.
>>> > > What would you stream out? The setup I normally use can accept
>>> > > multiple
>>> > > streams or pull them, transcode them and send them out to a deflection
>>> > > host.
>>> > Great, I was just going to be offering analogue outputs from the mixing
>>> > desks and let emfm take it from there.
>>> > Have you confirmed running of this on the main list? I only ask as I
>>> > thought we were still approaching people to fill this roll, may be worth
>>> > re-offering.
>>> I have not confirmed it, no, as I was not yet picking this up as a task,
>>> but given that it needs to be done and that I have the experience, I
>>> surely
>>> want to go for it!
>>> I can work with analog inputs, np. Let me get my project planning for the
>>> next half year into order, and get things seriously on the rails regarding
>>> all this.
>> Ah great, I miss understood, good news though :)
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I am still here! However, I feel like we've not made much progress.
We know we're not able to do a FM RSL, however what do we want to do
regarding plans integrating live streaming of talks, etc etc.?
As it happens I'm working on a project with a BeagleBoard to make an
uber low cost IP codec, (with inspired by JamesH) which this might be
an excellent test for such things. Also, might be worth investigating
whether we can do video ... I'm fairly happy to work with people to
sort that out, OB type stuff is my specialty!
Do we want to liase with the network guys regarding our requirements?
Once we know what they are? I'm thinking we might want a couple of
gigabit links, perhaps... but really it depends what we want to do
regarding distribution. Anyone fancy taking up that job?
Also, does anyone (I'm thinking gmc here...) want to be in charge of
collating the equipment we want to set up in the studio(s) and working
out how it's going to work together?
And finally, probably most importantly, we need a tent or structure of
some sort. Does anyone want to follow that up?
I know I'm dishing out jobs here, but I don't want this to fail
because I'm too busy to take it all on. And I think there are some
pretty eager people on this list who would be happy to take on some
bits and pieces(?)
> I've actually done a bit of work on the FM license - and it looks very
> much like we won't get the RSL. There's already a number of RSLs
> going on in the area, including one which is as a trial for a local
> community station. Ofcom RLS person also said that they're getting
> flooded by license applications for olympic stations, and the
> turnaround time will likely be quite slow.
> Therefore, looks like we'll have to do it purely streaming. Which, to
> be honest, makes life a lot easier and also less expensive -
> especially as it seems we've got the kit to do streaming done already.
> Chris Roberts
> ~
> http://naxxfish.eu/
> No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> On 20 June 2012 12:23, Chris Roberts <ch...@naxxfish.eu> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Sorry about not updating you guys!
>> I've actually done a bit of work on the FM license - and it looks very
>> much like we won't get the RSL. There's already a number of RSLs
>> going on in the area, including one which is as a trial for a local
>> community station. Ofcom RLS person also said that they're getting
>> flooded by license applications for olympic stations, and the
>> turnaround time will likely be quite slow.
>> Therefore, looks like we'll have to do it purely streaming. Which, to
>> be honest, makes life a lot easier and also less expensive -
>> especially as it seems we've got the kit to do streaming done already.
>> No trees were killed to send this message, but a large number of
>> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>> On 19 June 2012 20:22, Charles Yarnold <charlesyarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 19 June 2012 20:19, Koen Martens <g...@sonologic.nl> wrote:
>>>> Hi Charles,
>>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 08:01:26PM +0100, Charles Yarnold wrote:
>>>> > On 14 June 2012 17:28, Koen Martens <g...@sonologic.nl> wrote:
>>>> > > Yeah, it seems to have died down.. I haven't been working behind the
>>>> > > scenes, but as far as the audio streams go there isn't anything to do
>>>> > > anyway: I've got the setup already and done this a number of times.
>>>> > > What would you stream out? The setup I normally use can accept
>>>> > > multiple
>>>> > > streams or pull them, transcode them and send them out to a deflection
>>>> > > host.
>>>> > Great, I was just going to be offering analogue outputs from the mixing
>>>> > desks and let emfm take it from there.
>>>> > Have you confirmed running of this on the main list? I only ask as I
>>>> > thought we were still approaching people to fill this roll, may be worth
>>>> > re-offering.
>>>> I have not confirmed it, no, as I was not yet picking this up as a task,
>>>> but given that it needs to be done and that I have the experience, I
>>>> surely
>>>> want to go for it!
>>>> I can work with analog inputs, np. Let me get my project planning for the
>>>> next half year into order, and get things seriously on the rails regarding
>>>> all this.
>>> Ah great, I miss understood, good news though :)
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On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 05:53:03PM +0100, Chris Roberts wrote:
> I am still here! However, I feel like we've not made much progress.
> We know we're not able to do a FM RSL, however what do we want to do
> regarding plans integrating live streaming of talks, etc etc.?
I'm still here as well :)
> As it happens I'm working on a project with a BeagleBoard to make an
> uber low cost IP codec, (with inspired by JamesH) which this might be
> an excellent test for such things. Also, might be worth investigating
> whether we can do video ... I'm fairly happy to work with people to
> sort that out, OB type stuff is my specialty!
That'd be nice, to use those beagleboard IP codecs. Would they be done in
time for EMFcamp?
As for video, i've got some experience with that. In the olden days we
had firewire, which then plugged into a laptop/machine which did the
recoding to stream-friendly codecs (ogg/theora, mpeg or webm). Software
i've used for that includes ffmpeg, vlc and some more obscure pieces of
software.
Nowadays, one would use HDMI probably.
But, it starts with the question: do we have camera's, and if so: what
kind? I'd watch out with using cheap consumer-grade cams, they tend to
have trouble focussing in the context of projector screens and are useless in low-light conditions.
> Do we want to liase with the network guys regarding our requirements?
> Once we know what they are? I'm thinking we might want a couple of
> gigabit links, perhaps... but really it depends what we want to do
> regarding distribution. Anyone fancy taking up that job?
For sound and even video, 100mbit will be more than enough to transport
the recorded audio (and possibly video) to a central server or off-site
server to use as a deflection host.
As I mentioned, deflection host I haz, just needs a bit of fiddling setting
up the proper streams but that's something I can do in an hour at the
site itself.
> Also, does anyone (I'm thinking gmc here...) want to be in charge of
> collating the equipment we want to set up in the studio(s) and working
> out how it's going to work together?
Sure, i'm up for that. Although I said I would get into EMFM more a while
back. Turns out preps for OHM2013 are already switching into 2nd gear, and
i've cancelled about all my other projects to focus on that. But this is
something I can probably work out before EMFcamp.
> And finally, probably most importantly, we need a tent or structure of
> some sort. Does anyone want to follow that up?
I remember some emails about that, with a request from Charles about getting a tent and some prices.
> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 05:53:03PM +0100, Chris Roberts wrote:
> > I am still here! However, I feel like we've not made much progress.
> > We know we're not able to do a FM RSL, however what do we want to do
> > regarding plans integrating live streaming of talks, etc etc.?
> I'm still here as well :)
> > As it happens I'm working on a project with a BeagleBoard to make an
> > uber low cost IP codec, (with inspired by JamesH) which this might be
> > an excellent test for such things. Also, might be worth investigating
> > whether we can do video ... I'm fairly happy to work with people to
> > sort that out, OB type stuff is my specialty!
> That'd be nice, to use those beagleboard IP codecs. Would they be done in
> time for EMFcamp?
Maybe. However, if not we can use James' OpenOB on a laptop / other PC
hardware.
> As for video, i've got some experience with that. In the olden days we
> had firewire, which then plugged into a laptop/machine which did the
> recoding to stream-friendly codecs (ogg/theora, mpeg or webm). Software
> i've used for that includes ffmpeg, vlc and some more obscure pieces of
> software.
> Nowadays, one would use HDMI probably.
> But, it starts with the question: do we have camera's, and if so: what
> kind? I'd watch out with using cheap consumer-grade cams, they tend to
> have trouble focussing in the context of projector screens and are
> useless in low-light conditions.
True.... that does mean we'd need a HDMI capture card. Also, there is
fluendo. We can use that to mix feed of a camera and screencap of a laptop
together, along with audio.
That does however mean people would need to use a specific laptop for
slides.
Another option might be a vision mixer .... I wouldn't know where to get
such a thing though..
> > Do we want to liase with the network guys regarding our requirements?
> > Once we know what they are? I'm thinking we might want a couple of
> > gigabit links, perhaps... but really it depends what we want to do
> > regarding distribution. Anyone fancy taking up that job?
> For sound and even video, 100mbit will be more than enough to transport
> the recorded audio (and possibly video) to a central server or off-site
> server to use as a deflection host.
> As I mentioned, deflection host I haz, just needs a bit of fiddling
setting
> up the proper streams but that's something I can do in an hour at the
> site itself.
> > Also, does anyone (I'm thinking gmc here...) want to be in charge of
> > collating the equipment we want to set up in the studio(s) and working
> > out how it's going to work together?
> Sure, i'm up for that. Although I said I would get into EMFM more a while
> back. Turns out preps for OHM2013 are already switching into 2nd gear, and
> i've cancelled about all my other projects to focus on that. But this is
> something I can probably work out before EMFcamp.
Excellent - I don't imagine it'd be too arduous a job :)
> > And finally, probably most importantly, we need a tent or structure of
> > some sort. Does anyone want to follow that up?
> I remember some emails about that, with a request from Charles about
> getting a tent and some prices.
