MS5 severe crashes working with sampler and multisampler

[Aly]

Hi

I´m having problems working IS with sampler/multisampler instruments.
Severe crashes happen when changing presets. All sounds and
instruments are saved
in MS folder (as recommended).
Sorry the mess but here it goes the crash report:

Thanks for your help

Regards

Luis Aly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
MetaSynth 5.0
Identifier: com.MetaSynth
Version: MetaSynth 5.0 (5.0a, Copyright U&I software 2009)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [70]

Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90077286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9007ea7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90605e7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific +
1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90606aa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x94de02ac
RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 283
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x94de00c5 ReceiveNextEventCommon +
374
6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x94e3eb56 _AcquireNextEvent + 58
7 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x94e3d2b3 RunApplicationEventLoop
+ 207
8 com.MetaSynth 0x000e66c4 main + 2324
9 com.MetaSynth 0x00002a6c _start + 210
10 com.MetaSynth 0x00002999 start + 41

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900772e6
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a92af _pthread_cond_wait +
1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900aab33
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x94989cfe
TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x94989ade TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
+ 422
5 ...ickTimeComponents.component 0x9626165e
ReadSchedulerThreadEntryPoint + 4724
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8012 thread_start + 34

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900772e6
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a92af _pthread_cond_wait +
1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900aab33
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x94989cfe
TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 246
4 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x94989ade TSWaitOnSemaphoreCommon
+ 422
5 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x949b21d4 AIOFileThread(void*) +
1056
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8012 thread_start + 34

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90077286 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9007ea7c mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90605e7e CFRunLoopRunSpecific +
1790
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90606aa8 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x974ec5f8 HALRunLoop::OwnThread
(void*) + 160
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x974ec480 CAPThread::Entry
(CAPThread*) + 96
6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8155 _pthread_start + 321
7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8012 thread_start + 34

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9007e46e __semwait_signal + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8dcd pthread_cond_wait
$UNIX2003 + 73
2 com.apple.ColorSync 0x9210c3f8 pthreadSemaphoreWait
(t_pthreadSemaphore*) + 42
3 com.apple.ColorSync 0x9211ed4e CMMConvTask(void*) + 54
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8155 _pthread_start + 321
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8012 thread_start + 34

Thread 5 Crashed:
0 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x90608354 CFRelease + 36
1 com.MetaSynth 0x000b9801 AUfile_GetInfos + 849
2 com.MetaSynth 0x0009e9ee
InstrumentManager_Loadsample + 62
3 com.MetaSynth 0x000701d6 SS_LoadSample + 326
4 com.MetaSynth 0x00070daf INS_SS_FindSample + 191
5 com.MetaSynth 0x0007121f INS_SS_createfromFile +
591
6 com.MetaSynth 0x000a1117 Instrument_newfromfile +
727
7 com.MetaSynth 0x000a133d Instrument_LoadPostponed
+ 61
8 com.MetaSynth 0x000a18f7 MSSynth_playStereo + 615
9 com.MetaSynth 0x00066cf0 RTimerTask + 192
10 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x949a9057 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 56
11 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8155 _pthread_start + 321
12 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8012 thread_start + 34

Thread 6:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900772e6
semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 10
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a92af _pthread_cond_wait +
1244
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900aab33
pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x974fbbdf CAGuard::WaitFor
(unsigned long long) + 213
4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x974fd79a CAGuard::WaitUntil
(unsigned long long) + 70
5 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x974fbf3f HP_IOThread::WorkLoop()
+ 759
6 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x974fbc43 HP_IOThread::ThreadEntry
(HP_IOThread*) + 17
7 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x974ec480 CAPThread::Entry
(CAPThread*) + 96
8 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8155 _pthread_start + 321
9 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900a8012 thread_start + 34

Thread 5 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x9060833a ecx: 0x434f4e44 edx: 0x002d64f0
edi: 0xb02b1c3c esi: 0x00000000 ebp: 0xb02b1a38 esp: 0xb02b1a20
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010246 eip: 0x90608354 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x0000001f gs: 0x00000037
cr2: 0x00000005

[Edward Spiegel]

Hi,

More information about what you were/are doing and your setup would be helpful.

Is the problem repeatable if you follow the same steps?

If so, please give me a step-by-step recipe. Oftentimes, the specific way that something is done is significant. MS 5 has been pretty stable for me switching between presets that use different samplers but there may be something different in how we are doing it or in the context. So, the more precise you can be in describing the steps, the easier it will be for us to replicate the issue.

Do you have this problem with our example presets?

What OS version are you running?

Are you running with admin privileges?

Are there any other applications running when this happens?

How much memory do you have in your computer?

Have you recently run permissions repair (using the Disk Utility application).

Best,

Edward

[Luis Aly]

Hi Edward

Thanks for your answer

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Edward Spiegel <espie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi,

More information about what you were/are doing and your setup would be helpful.

Is the problem repeatable if you follow the same steps?

 > Yes it repeats when I follow the same steps that lead to a crash

If so, please give me a step-by-step recipe. Oftentimes, the specific way that something is done is significant. MS 5 has been pretty stable for me switching between presets that use different samplers but there may be something different in how we are doing it or in the context. So, the more precise you can be in describing the steps, the easier it will be for us to replicate the issue.

 > Built a new multisampler/sampler with sound files that lay in a an external drive.
    Created a canvas in IS. When it pleased me I save the multisampler/sampler (and its soundfiles) into MS5 folder (IS presets in More Presets folder and instruments in Instruments5.0 folder)
    When I recall my presets sometimes MS5 crashes at the moment of calling and other times when I´m changing presets. By clicking or by shortcut.
 

Do you have this problem with our example presets?

 
> No.
 

What OS version are you running?

 >  OSX 10.5.8

Are you running with admin privileges?

 > Yes.
 

Are there any other applications running when this happens?

 > No.

 

How much memory do you have in your computer?

 > 4GBDDR3.
 

Have you recently run permissions repair (using the Disk Utility application).

 > Yes. When it starts happen this problem was one pf the first things I did.

 
Best,

Luis Aly

At 4:45 PM -0700 10/26/09, Aly wrote:

[Edward Spiegel]

At 9:00 AM +0000 10/27/09, Luis Aly wrote:
> Created a canvas in IS. When it pleased me I save the multisampler/sampler (and its soundfiles) into MS5 folder (IS presets in More Presets folder and instruments in Instruments5.0 folder)
> When I recall my presets sometimes MS5 crashes at the moment of calling and other times when I´m changing presets. By clicking or by shortcut.

I think I see what is happening. In this method, the Image Synth preset might be saved with the instrument BEFORE the instruments samples have been saved to the Image Synth.

There are a couple of things to try to see if they stop the problem:

Method 1:
) After you save the instrument with its samples to the Instruments 5.0 folder, choose Open from the Instruments popup and choose the copy that you just moved to the Instruments folder. Now re-save the preset by typing the 's' key.

Method 2:
) If all of the samples you use, are on an external drive put an alias to the folder that contains the sample library into the instruments 5.0 folder.

Let me know if these solve the problem.

Best,

Edward

[Luis Aly]

Hi Edward

Once again thank you for your quick answer

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Edward Spiegel <espie...@yahoo.com> wrote:

At 9:00 AM +0000 10/27/09, Luis Aly wrote:

>    Created a canvas in IS. When it pleased me I save the multisampler/sampler (and its soundfiles) into MS5 folder (IS presets in More Presets folder and instruments in Instruments5.0 folder)
>    When I recall my presets sometimes MS5 crashes at the moment of calling and other times when I´m changing presets. By clicking or by shortcut.

I think I see what is happening. In this method, the Image Synth preset might be saved with the instrument BEFORE the instruments samples have been saved to the Image Synth.

There are a couple of things to try to see if they stop the problem:

Method 1:
) After you save the instrument with its samples to the Instruments 5.0 folder, choose Open from the Instruments popup and choose the copy that you just moved to the Instruments folder. Now re-save the preset by typing the 's' key.

 > Didn´t solve. Sometimes I had time to re save the instruments befor MS5 crashes. Faster than the machine : )
 

Method 2:
) If all of the samples you use, are on an external drive put an alias to the folder that contains the sample library into the instruments 5.0 folder.

 > I forgot to do that. I remember I saw it in the tutorial...
 

Let me know if these solve the problem.

 > What I tried now is to create a folder in my documents and put there all the work in MS5. And I´ve been working all day and it seems fine. (no crashes).
I think I didn´t understand well (yet) the procedures in order to save Instruments and when I need to save them since what I´ve been doing is creating presets
and saving them (variations on instruments). I recall the presets and it seems ok.

I read the tutorials and I have some doubts. 

Best,

Luis Aly