Suggestions for the next topic?

[defwh...@gmail.com]

Hi All,

Hopefully (?) you've all by now listened/spammed your friends/listeners
with the MAP-001 "on podcasting" podcast. Feedbacks anyone?

Suggestions for next topic?

Carl

[Jeff Oestreich]

I thought you did a great job of editing. It was a super podcast. Sorry
for handing you 7 minutes of audio at the last minute - Now that I've
heard more your concept of the 'micro' I'll be better, I promise....
:-)

Topics? hmmm.... I'll just toss out a) free media / public media b)
pop culture c) 21st century art movements

Jeff (This And That)

[mr strauss]

I think that it is too micro - it sounds more like an extended promo.  Give everyone three minutes, I'd say.  Three uninterrupted minutes.  That way it can feel more like a conversation between the podcasters instead of like an mtv show intro.

But the criticism here is intended purely as an improvement tool.  It was the first one- the idea hasn't found its stride yet and prolly won't for a while.  That doesn't change the fact that it is a great idea.

e

[Stephen Eley]

On 6/28/05, defwh...@gmail.com <defwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Suggestions for next topic?

Dogs. >8-> (Hey, I just go with whatever they're talking about in
Podcast Alley...)


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Steve Eley (sfe...@gmail.com)
ESCAPE POD - the SF podcast magazine
http://escape.extraneous.org

[Adam Tinkoff]

I have to agree with Mr. Strauss - the energy was good, the editing
adept - but I had a hard time following the flow because none of the
passages excepty maybe "This and That" were up long enough to
establish a complete idea. I was left with noisy shards and fragments
and a way too long list of credits.

Perhaps we could shorten the segments next time (say three minutes or
less) but keep them entact - that way the podcasters at least have
autonomy over their own segments.

Adam Tinkoff
TINKOFF RADIO

[defwh...@gmail.com]

Yes, all critism is good as it leads to better future work.

I agree with the "fragmentation" issue, the feelgoodgirl part had a
nice flow (IMHO), but then...
but did justify in my own mind based on:
There were precious few submissions, frankly.
I extracted almost all of that stuff from full length (gasp!) podcasts.

It was a podcast on Podcasting, so part of my idea was to show a range
of podcast genre's available (commercial, etc., not a detailed passage
for each one) interspersed with more focused bits "on topic" (VOX, Area
51, ThisnThat).

I suppose a better descriptive, orienting intro (and leave out or
shorten) the credits would be vaste improvements- volunteers??

Thanks, and keep the feedbacks coming, as well as ideas for the next
show.

I was thinking:

Media, or the New Media, or the Media War, or War in the Media or...?

[mr strauss]

hey deafness -

I'm prolly gonna participate in this project solo, is that cool?  It's too hard getting cohry over here - or more accurately, I want to be able to do it when I feel like it.

I think the topic should be - how media making shapes cognition. (as opposed to media consumption.)

I'll do my thing right now, solo.

eric

defwh...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, all critism is good as it leads to better future work.

I agree with the "fragmentation" issue, the feelgoodgirl part had a
nice flow (IMHO), but then...
but did justify in my own mind based on:
There were precious few submissions, frankly.
I extracted almost all of that stuff from full length (gasp!) podcasts.

It was a podcast on Podcasting, so part of my idea was to show a range
of podcast genre's available (commercial, etc., not a detailed passage
for each one) interspersed with more focused bits "on topic" (VOX, Area
51, ThisnThat).

I suppose a better descriptive, orienting intro (and leave out or
shorten) the credits would be vaste improvements- volunteers??

Thanks, and keep the feedbacks coming, as well as ideas for the next
show.

I was thinking:

Media, or the New Media, or the Media War, or War in the Media or...?



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[defwheezer]

Hey Eric,

 

Whatever works for you'all.

 

I like your suggestion ofr the next topic, so let's make it "Official"

 

Enteries now being gathered for microcasts on the topic of:

 

"How media making shapes cognition"

 

Please clarify if I'm off base here- you mean how does making media shape the cognition of the media producer?

 

Carl

 

On 6/28/05, mr strauss <mrst...@popgoeslethal.com> wrote:

[Stephen Eley]

On 6/28/05, defwheezer <defwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> "How media making shapes cognition"
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> Please clarify if I'm off base here- you mean how does making media shape
> the cognition of the media producer?

I assumed he meant, "How does media shape the cognition of the
*audience*." There are always a lot more consumers than producers, so
that's a more interesting question.

Or, if your cognition has been shaped too much by media to understand
'cognition' -- "Do TV, radio, podcasts, whatever, make you stupider,
smarter, or just warped?"

[Adam Tinkoff]

Can we possibly pick something a little easier to wrap our heads
around? - something say like "Summer"? - Media and Cognition sounds
interesting, but a little too complex a subject for my humble cast...
We just play tunes and talk about places we like to visit! I'll pass
on the "Media Congnition Cast".

Adam Tinkoff
TINKOFF RADIO

[defwheezer]

On 6/28/05, Stephen Eley <sfe...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 6/28/05, defwheezer <defwh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> "How media making shapes cognition"
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> Please clarify if I'm off base here- you mean how does making media shape
> the cognition of the media producer?

1.) I assumed he meant, "How does media shape the cognition of the

*audience*."  There are always a lot more consumers than producers, so
that's a more interesting question.

2.) Or, if your cognition has been shaped too much by media to understand

'cognition' -- "Do TV, radio, podcasts, whatever, make you stupider,
smarter, or just warped?"

That's exactly what I thought too first, then second- but which is it?

[Adam Tinkoff]

Podcasts or any media for that matter is just an exercise in
controlled folly and doesn't inherently make you anything... YOU make
you smarter - not the media.

A

[Jeff Oestreich]

There you go - the perfect 'micro' podcast for you! lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[defwheezer]

Haha!  Vent in your microcast!  Word up.  A contensious topic- yee haw!

Carl

[defwh...@gmail.com]

I think either is fine, depending on your predilection-

How does media shape the cognition of the *audience*.

Or,
If your cognition has been shaped too much by media to understand

'cognition' --
"Do TV, radio, podcasts, whatever, make you stupider, smarter, or just
warped?"

To also address Eric's comment about "Give everyone three minutes, I'd

say. Three uninterrupted minutes. That way it can feel more like a

conversation between the podcasters".

I think that's a great comment, and would like to adopt that as a
target to shoot for when producing your segment. To take that one step
further (fasten seat belts!), how much would you like to hear other
peoples segments prior to making your own? I can see where going
"round-robin" with these could help to "bind" them together into a
single entity. For istance- Eric submits his, and one or more others
"respond" with their own 2-4 minute perspective (length of a pop song)?

Carl

[mr strauss]

yes, your royal deafness,

that is precisely what i mean.

I like that name for you.  Royal Deafness.  That's what I'm calling you from now on.

eric

[defwheezer]

How about the round robin part, for continuity?

cb

[mr strauss]

here's my submission. it's right at 3 minutes give or take a few seconds.

http://www.voxmonitor.com/media/vm_micro_submit_002.wav

it's uploading right now so, so don't click this link before 12:35 AM
PDT or you'll get a 404 probly.

eric

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[Dave Hitt]

>>Podcasts or any media for that matter is just an exercise in
controlled folly and doesn't inherently make you anything... YOU make
you smarter - not the media.<<

On contrare – know of one podcast that can get you Smartenized.

And while media doesn't make most people smarter, I have seen many
instance where it has made someone substantially dumber. In one
recent case it was a woman who was superior, she through, because she
got all of her news from The New York Times and NPR. She had a good
vocabulary, but was as ignorant as a brick, completely incapable of
even comprehending any point of view other than her own.

On the flip side there's the folks who limit all of their input to
spews from the far right. They're just as convinced they're
brilliant, and just as wrong.

The theme is fortuitous – it's exactly the subject of my last podcast:
How pressure groups change your reality by getting you to adopt new
words that have different shades of meaning than the old, more
accurate words. So the train of thought is fresh, but there's no way
I can compress it from ten minutes to three, and I don't want to just
repeat myself, or thump my chest and say *hey, listen to **my**
podcast!* Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Three minutes may be too long with this many participants. Could we
do it in 90 seconds? That would be a real challenge, but it could
make for a very pithy podcast.

[mr strauss]

was my submission received and/or reviewed?

I didn't hear any feedback, which is fine, but I just want to double check that the link made it out to everybody.

[mr strauss]

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