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From: defwhee...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 18:26:30 -0000
Local: Mon, Jul 11 2005 2:26 pm
Subject: MAP-002 Posted
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this second
microcast-accumulation on "Art and The Media"!

Eric from VOX Monitor, Defwheezer from Mental-Escher Pluri Media Group,
and Dave Hitt

Art, in its broadest meaning, is the expression of creativity or
imagination, or both. Positive AND Negative creativity/imagination-
Bliss, Garden of Eden, Nirvana, OR Hell, Conquest , murder, War,
Genocide, Weapons that can destroy the world. So then, what is
acceptable, or "good" art? Will "good" art overwhelm "dark" art? What
role does Mass Media Play? The Corporate control of Mass Media even?!
You can also squint your eyes a bit, and see possible futures...

Feel free to link, distribute, etc.

Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/ucast

Website: http://www.mental-escher.net/MA/

MP3 file:
http://www.mental-escher.net/MA/MAP-002_on-art-and-the-media.mp3


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 More options Jul 11 2005, 2:49 pm
From: Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:49:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
I must have missed a post or two but I thought the topic was Media and
Cognition? Did I miss something?

Adam Tinkoff

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 3:14 pm
From: defwheezer <defwhee...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:14:38 -0700
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted

Naw, you had one facet of it- but there was the art/cognition part (Eric)
and then the interaction of art and creativity (Me).

Carl

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 3:22 pm
From: Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:22:38 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
I see - I was confused by this one altogether, can we pick a lighter
more general topic next time - maybe something like what's local
weather or drinking beer?

A

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 3:26 pm
From: Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:26:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
or how about the next show be focussed on my fuel of choice "CAFFEINE"
or the lack there of...

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 3:28 pm
From: Jeff Oestreich <jeffo...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Jul 11 2005 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Now that's something I sink my teeth in ... er... swallow I guess...

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 3:32 pm
From: Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 15:32:46 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Can you say "Senseo?" I know that other Adam sure can (cause he's
probably paid to)... BUURP.

A

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 3:33 pm
From: defwheezer <defwhee...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 12:33:44 -0700
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted

Hmmm- drinking beer... I need to go do some practical research on that topic
;)

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 4:07 pm
From: mr strauss <mrstra...@popgoeslethal.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:07:21 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 11 2005 4:07 pm
Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
what's the next topic?

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 4:09 pm
From: mr strauss <mrstra...@popgoeslethal.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:09:19 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 11 2005 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
i think beer is a great topic idea!

I like beer.

e

defwheezer wrote:
Hmmm- drinking beer... I need to go do some practical research on that topic ;)

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I see - I was confused by this one altogether, can we pick a lighter
more general topic next time - maybe something like what's local
weather or drinking beer?

A



On 7/11/05, defwheezer <defwheezer@gmail.com> wrote:
> Naw, you had one facet of it- but there was the art/cognition part (Eric)
> and then the interaction of art and creativity (Me).
>
> Carl
>
>
> On 7/11/05, Adam Tinkoff < tinkoff@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I must have missed a post or two but I thought the topic was Media and
> > Cognition? Did I miss something?
> >
> > Adam Tinkoff
> >
> > On 7/11/05, defwheezer@gmail.com < defwheezer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone who contributed to this second
> > > microcast-accumulation on "Art and The Media"!
> > >
> > > Eric from VOX Monitor, Defwheezer from Mental-Escher Pluri Media Group,
> > > and Dave Hitt
> > >
> > > Art, in its broadest meaning, is the expression of creativity or
> > > imagination, or both. Positive AND Negative creativity/imagination-
> > > Bliss, Garden of Eden, Nirvana, OR Hell, Conquest , murder, War,
> > > Genocide, Weapons that can destroy the world. So then, what is
> > > acceptable, or "good" art? Will "good" art overwhelm "dark" art? What
> > > role does Mass Media Play? The Corporate control of Mass Media even?!
> > > You can also squint your eyes a bit, and see possible futures...
> > >
> > > Feel free to link, distribute, etc.
> > >
> > > Feed: http://feeds.feedburner.com/ucast
> > >
> > > Website: http://www.mental-escher.net/MA/
> > >
> > > MP3 file:
> > >
> http://www.mental-escher.net/MA/MAP-002_on-art-and-the-media.mp3
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>


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 More options Jul 11 2005, 4:09 pm
From: Jeff Oestreich <jeffo...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Beer does lend itself to a lot of different angles and perspectives ...
I think it's a great topic....

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---------------------------------
  i think beer is a great topic idea!

I like beer.

e

defwheezer wrote:Hmmm- drinking beer... I need to go do some

practicalresearch on that topic ;)

  On 7/11/05, Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com  > wrote:  
I see - I was confused by this one altogether, can we pick a lighter  

more general topic next time - maybe something like what's local
weather or drinking beer?

A

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Negativecreativity/imagination-


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 More options Jul 11 2005, 4:58 pm
From: Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:58:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
I'm all over the BEER topic!
Being I am an heir to the TINKOFF brewery in Mother Russia.
(not that it means much in the USA)
http://www.tinkoff.ru

Adam

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 5:04 pm
From: Mur Lafferty <mighty...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:04:21 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Beer. Yes.

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 5:14 pm
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Cool! No fair - you have an edge ;-)

Can you buy it in the US? Is it good beer?

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 5:21 pm
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:21:59 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Actually you can! Look in your favorite import store. Here's the US website...
http://www.tinkov.com

Beer that requires a water chaser is never a good sign. :-)

I plan to tell the entire story of how I found out I was related to
this legacy (unknown to me or anyone in my family for over 35 years)
in my submission...

Lost family heritage found through the magic beverage... BEEER!

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 7:19 pm
From: defwheezer <defwhee...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:19:48 -0700
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted

Dear All,
 The Beers' Have It!
 The Official top(*hic*) for MAP-003 is "BEER!!"
 Please try to have your submissions in by this Sunday midnight PST. If you
need additional time, just let me know.
 Carl

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 7:23 pm
From: defwhee...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 23:23:26 -0000
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
BEER!

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 More options Jul 11 2005, 7:32 pm
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:32:33 -0700
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
BEER!!


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 More options Jul 11 2005, 8:06 pm
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 20:06:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Permission has been given to me by the "Ray Johnson Band" of San
Francisco to include their song "Teardrops in My Beer" (as long as
it's in its entirety and we give him credit) for this podcast. It's
only 2 minutes, but right on the money in a "I lost my pick-up truck
in a twisted alt-country pop song" sort of way..

http://www.tinkoff.com/public/teardrops.mp3

Adam Tinkoff

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 More options Jul 18 2005, 12:08 pm
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:08:38 -0000
Local: Mon, Jul 18 2005 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
Hey peeps,

Are there any more contributions pending for the Beer episode?

Carl


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 More options Jul 18 2005, 1:44 pm
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:44:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
gah, I missed the deadline. I'll try to get one in today. Any input,
or is it just the broad topic of beer?

Mur

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> Hey peeps,

> Are there any more contributions pending for the Beer episode?

> Carl

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 More options Jul 18 2005, 1:50 pm
From: Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:50:58 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
How many submissions so far?
Do we have a tally?

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 More options Jul 18 2005, 3:26 pm
From: defwheezer <defwhee...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:26:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted

Dear All,

Any facet of Beer is cool

Podcast it in micro(brew?) form, don't wait!

We have only a few submissions to date, so step up please.

I am holding off rendering the podcast until we get a few more submissions
on the BEER!

Carl

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 More options Jul 18 2005, 3:41 pm
From: Adam Tinkoff <tink...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:41:44 -0400
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Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted
here' my submission on TINKOFF BEER!

http://www.tinkoff.com/audio/tinkoff_beer.mp3

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 More options Jul 18 2005, 4:03 pm
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:03:51 -0400
Local: Mon, Jul 18 2005 4:03 pm
Subject: Re: MAP-002 Posted

More vintage audio from the vaults.
Ernie Mayne's "Lloyd Georgie's Beer" (well beyond copyright)
Quality may be beyond usability - but there's something in there.

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  Ernie Mayne - Lloyd George's Beer.mp3
640K Download

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