Ubunchu! featured on LWN

[Anton Ekblad]

A year or so late, but Ubunchu! got featured on LWN a few days ago: http://lwn.net/Articles/443704/

[cso...@gmail.com]

A year or so late, and the chapter 5 is still floating in the limbo... and as far as I'm concerned there have been 8 chapters released in Japan! What's happened with Seotch?
- Carlos Solís

2011/5/21 Anton Ekblad <an...@ekblad.cc>

[Martin Owens]

On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 15:00 -0600, cso...@gmail.com wrote:
> A year or so late, and the chapter 5 is still floating in the limbo...
> and
> as far as I'm concerned there have been 8 chapters released in Japan!
> What's
> happened with Seotch?

Is chapter 5 still in Limbo? I thought I'd published it. That and
episode 7.

So we're missing 6, 8 and 9. I wonder what (if anything) we can do to
strengthen Seotch-sans heart in working with the project.

Martin,

[cso...@gmail.com]

...er, I actually meant 6. Perhaps either ASCII Magazine decided to finish the project or Seotch is really busy. Or both!
- Carlos Solís
PS: Remember to ask ASCII Magazine to use a freer license if possible, by the way!

2011/5/21 Martin Owens <doct...@gmail.com>

[Martin Owens]

On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 17:09 -0600, cso...@gmail.com wrote:
> PS: Remember to ask ASCII Magazine to use a freer license if possible,
> by
> the way!

Tried that, they said no.

[Tua-tua keladi. Makin tua makin brengsek.]

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:40 AM, Martin Owens <doct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So we're missing 6, 8 and 9. I wonder what (if anything) we can do to
> strengthen Seotch-sans heart in working with the project.
>

I mail him few weeks ago about that. Maybe a fundraising will do, but
still got no reply...

is that the problem why the 5th hasn't released yet and Seotch
disappearance, sir?

[Martin Owens]

On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 16:36 +0800, Tua-tua keladi. Makin tua makin

brengsek. wrote:
>
> is that the problem why the 5th hasn't released yet and Seotch
> disappearance, sir?

No, because I asked him and ASCII way before the 1st issue. The 5th
issue isn't missing, it's the 6th.

Martin,

[Jaro Larnos]

Let's hope he's alive.

2011/5/22 Tua-tua keladi. Makin tua makin brengsek. <black...@gmail.com>:

[瀬尾 浩史 ( Hiroshi Seo )]

Hi all,

I'm still alive! @@;
But sorry for my disappearance and the delay of the release. :(

As I've said few months ago, I am now facing a financial issue,
caused by the loss of several income sources.
I'm now seeking and preparing for new manga & illustration related
jobs, but frankly, I have to say the situation is still uncertain.
I'd been mentally up to the chin, to dedicate my effort fully to the project. :(

But I know I can't leave it forever, considering you guys and the several
readers are still waiting for a new issue. (And I'm kinda glad about it. :) )
So I decided to release one or two episodes within days,
hopefully until the end of the month.

Sad to say, the episode 9 could be the final release of "Ubunchu! ".
For several reasons, the publication of "Ubuntu Japanese Magazine",
in which the manga was running, has been stalled nearly a year.
And there seems to be no prospect for the next issue,
at least as far as i can see.

black claw:

> I mail him few weeks ago about that. Maybe a fundraising will do, but
> still got no reply...

OMG. Sorry for missing your kind mail.
I'm really glad about your suggestion of making a donation page.
But to be frank, I feel it difficult.
The project is not only mine. Without the translators' efforts,
it would've never been read around the world in the first place.
So I feel it's not fair to reap the benefit from it exclusively.
If do so, it should be placed on ubunchu.net and shared by
all the translators. And I guess, it would be unrealistic. ;)

Alternatively, I'm now planning to self-publish "Ubunchu!" in Japanese
with a bonus episode in book and e-book form this summer.
If the translators are interested in publishing the e-book in each language,
we could share the revenue respectively. Thoughts?

Regards,

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[Martin Owens]

Hey Seotch-san!

It's so good to hear from you.

It would be good to have more issues available to translate, I
understand if the ASCII magazine is finished that it can be hard to get
it out. but at least now we have a finish and getting issues 6, 8 and 9
released would mean we have a complete set.

The revenue sharing is interesting, we have to work out some copyright
license issues before we could do that, but it's certainly interesting
to me. We'd also have to decide if you want to take the left to right or
right to left versions to publish.

For each edition we'd have to have to license the translated text and
edited derivative graphics under a commercial license. Fortunately I'm
the editor for the English editions.

Martin,

[cso...@gmail.com]

2011/5/23 瀬尾 浩史 ( Hiroshi Seo ) <seo...@gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm still alive!  @@;
But sorry for my disappearance and the delay of the release. :(

No problem, every now and then we are full of work too ;D

Sad to say, the episode 9 could be the final release of "Ubunchu! ".
For several reasons, the publication of "Ubuntu Japanese Magazine",
in which the manga was running, has been stalled nearly a year.
And there seems to be no prospect for the next issue,
 at least as far as i can see.

So the magazine is closing? Hmm...

Alternatively, I'm now planning to self-publish "Ubunchu!" in Japanese
with a bonus episode in book and e-book form this summer.
If the translators are interested in publishing the e-book in each language,
we could share the revenue respectively. Thoughts?

If the ASCII Magazine is closing, perhaps the smartest move would be to kindly ask them to "return" the copyright of the series to you. Since the magazine is shutting down and ceasing publication, taking Ubunchu down with them would be rather pointless. And in that way, re-licensing everything to a commercial-friendly license would become easier.

Regards,

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- Carlos Solís

[Tua-tua keladi. Makin tua makin brengsek.]

2011/5/23 瀬尾 浩史 ( Hiroshi Seo ) <seo...@gmail.com>

Alternatively, I'm now planning to self-publish "Ubunchu!" in Japanese
with a bonus episode in book and e-book form this summer.
If the translators are interested in publishing the e-book in each language,
we could share the revenue respectively. Thoughts?

+99999999999999999999999

[Anton Ekblad]

On Monday, May 23, 2011 4:43:21 PM UTC+2, Seotch wrote:

Hi all,

I'm still alive!  @@;
But sorry for my disappearance and the delay of the release. :(

As I've said few months ago, I am now facing a financial issue,
caused by the loss of several income sources.
I'm now seeking and preparing for new manga & illustration related
jobs, but frankly, I have to say the situation is still uncertain.
I'd been mentally up to the chin, to dedicate my effort fully to the project. :(

Really sorry to hear that hasn't cleared up yet; I hope you get that sorted out soon, uncertainty about your livelihood can really get to you if it goes on too long. :( 

But I know I can't leave it forever, considering  you guys and the several
readers are still waiting for a new issue. (And I'm kinda glad about it. :) )
So I decided to release one or two episodes within days,
hopefully until the end of the month.

That's good news, now I'll have another excuse to put off work on my thesis for another few days! :) 

Alternatively, I'm now planning to self-publish "Ubunchu!" in Japanese
with a bonus episode in book and e-book form this summer.
If the translators are interested in publishing the e-book in each language,
we could share the revenue respectively. Thoughts?

Great idea, you can count on me!

[瀬尾 浩史 ( Hiroshi Seo )]

Martin:

> The revenue sharing is interesting, we have to work out some copyright
> license issues before we could do that, but it's certainly interesting
> to me.

Carlos:

> If the ASCII Magazine is closing, perhaps the smartest move would be
> to kindly ask them to "return" the copyright of the series to you.

Sure, It's seemed to be a bit complicated, but we have to handle re-licensing
issue. Maybe I would confer with ASCII over the license again, as
Carlos suggested.

Anyway, the first step should be for me to write a bonus episode and
edit a book.
I will think over the rest in the meantime. :)

Anton:

> Really sorry to hear that hasn't cleared up yet; I hope you get that sorted out soon,
> uncertainty about your livelihood can really get to you if it goes on too long. :(

Ya, I've been working with a publisher on a new manga series since last year,
but it's not certain when it will be printed even at this point.
Meanwhile I've got
a temporary job as an instructor in manga / illustration though, I may have to
seek out another project sooner or later :(

> Great idea, you can count on me!

Thank you! ;)

[Tua-tua keladi. Makin tua makin brengsek.]

2011/5/27 瀬尾 浩史 ( Hiroshi Seo ) <seo...@gmail.com>:

>
> Meanwhile I've got
> a temporary job as an instructor in manga / illustration though, I may have  to
> seek out another project sooner or later :(
>

+good luck, +godspeed, sire... :)

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