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mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)  
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 More options Jul 16 2009, 7:27 pm
From: "mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)" <mit...@mitcho.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:27:40 -0600
Local: Thurs, Jul 16 2009 7:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ubiquity] Re: Ubiquity 0.5 slow?
We just pushed 0.5.1pre2 and am planning to push 0.5.1 tomorrow.

(Note 0.5.1pre2's suggestion list flickers/moves around a lot, but  
this has already been fixed for the final 0.5.1.)

The perceived "slowness" is actually a combination of a few different  
phenomena... one of the major ones (the actual parser performance +  
nountype detection tracking, to be exact) has been markedly improved  
in 0.5.1... another (the speed of canceling a query when changing  
input) is something we hope to attack for 0.5.2.

mitcho

> Reason enough to push another beta then.

> On Jul 16, 3:31 pm, Sudhir <nondescriptn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I updated to 0.5.1 beta but the issue of slow response remains. It's
>> taking a while after inputting the first few characters. Even  
>> clearing
>> the commands already typed takes a bit of time. Another thing that I
>> have noticed is that the time lag occurs mainly when inputting
>> something that's not a command. This may be something to do with the
>> parser.

>> On Jul 17, 12:43 am, "mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)"

>> <mit...@mitcho.com> wrote:
>>> We weren't sure whether it would get picked up properly by the  
>>> update
>>> mechanism as a beta after 0.5... we're pretty sure that's working
>>> right now, so if we release another beta (which I think we may,  
>>> later
>>> today) we'll call it something like 0.5.1pre2.

>>> m

>>>> Mitcho I must ask why couldn't it have been named 0.5.1beta?

>>>> On Jul 15, 7:17 pm, mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)
>>>> <mit...@mitcho.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> We've pushed a new 0.5.1 beta which should improve general parser
>>>>> performance as well as help with the flickering issue. You can get
>>>>> this beta here:

>>>>> http://ubiquity.mozilla.com/xpi/ubiquity-latest-beta.xpi

>>>>> (Note: for techinical reasons it's called 0.5pre7.)

>>>>> I would love to know if this helps improves the behavior.

>>>>> mitcho, Labs

>>>>> On Jul 14, 4:47 pm, "mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)"
>>>>> <mit...@mitcho.com>
>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>> We're actively working on these issues for 0.5.1. If you get
>>>>>> Ubiquity
>>>>>> from the hg repository [1] you can already try out some changes
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> may help both the performance and flickering you mention.

>>>>>> [1]https://wiki.mozilla.org/Labs/Ubiquity/Ubiquity_0.1_Development_Tutorial
>>>>>> #Getting_Set_Up

>>>>>> mitcho, Labs

>>>>>>> It's still flashing on every keystroke and occasionally locking
>>>>>>> up for
>>>>>>> a few seconds even with the new parser turned off. It did that  
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> latest alpha as well, but not to the extent it does it now.

>>>>>>> On Jul 14, 9:28 am, xero <jokeyx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I had to turn off Parser 2 in 0.5 as well. Typing causes the
>>>>>>>> entire
>>>>>>>> Ubiquity dialog to flash on almost every letter. Sometimes it  
>>>>>>>> gets
>>>>>>>> locked up and doesn't recognize that I typed anything, but of
>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>> only in the middle of what I was typing. The parser  
>>>>>>>> occasionally
>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>> decides that the command no longer matches when typing its
>>>>>>>> arguments.
>>>>>>>> I'm hoping the bugs and performance issues get worked out
>>>>>>>> because I
>>>>>>>> love Ubiquity, but right now it's not even usable.

>>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 7:44 pm, Bhagwad <bhag...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> I've turned off the "Use Parser 2 (the next generation  
>>>>>>>>> parser)"
>>>>>>>>> setting in the Ubiquity preferences page and now the speed is
>>>>>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> normal.

>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 10:16 am, Bhagwad <bhag...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Any way I can help out? Need me to do some tests? Just ask

>>>>>>>>>> Bhagwad

>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 9:12 am, "mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)"
>>>>>>>>>> <mit...@mitcho.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the new features in Parser 2, particularly the new
>>>>>>>>>>> smart
>>>>>>>>>>> argument-first suggestions, necessitates that the code be  
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>> complex
>>>>>>>>>>> than in previous Ubiquity releases. There are still some
>>>>>>>>>>> areas I
>>>>>>>>>>> believe we can continue optimizing the code, however, so  
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> will be ongoing.

>>>>>>>>>>> In particular, Bhagwad, I currently believe we do have a bug
>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>> things take a long time on initial parses (like your first
>>>>>>>>>>> letter
>>>>>>>>>>> ones), which I'd like to look into.

>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the feedback!

>>>>>>>>>>> mitcho

>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/7/11 Bhagwad <bhag...@gmail.com>:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since updating Ubiquity to 0.5, the time taken for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognize the first few letters, highlight the command and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliver a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> local result (such as the "calculate" command) has slowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tremendously.

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whereas initially it was milliseconds, it's now at least 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>>> long. Anyone else facing this problem? I'm using Ubuntu  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Firefox/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shiretoko 3.5 . Let me boot into Windows and see if the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> occurs.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I noticed, too, that 0.5 is slower when it's  
>>>>>>>>>>>> processing
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>> input.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I use Shiretoko 3.5 on Ubuntu 9.04 and have better timing,
>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>>>>>>>>>>>> than 2 seconds, but it's still noticeable, since I have and
>>>>>>>>>>>> older
>>>>>>>>>>>> version at work for comparison.

>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Timur Izhbulatov —www.timka.org

>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)
>>>>>>>>>>> mit...@mitcho.comhttp://mitcho.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> linguist, coder, teacher

>>>>>> --
>>>>>> mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)
>>>>>> mit...@mitcho.comhttp://mitcho.com/
>>>>>> linguist, coder, teacher

>>> --
>>> mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)
>>> mit...@mitcho.comhttp://mitcho.com/
>>> linguist, coder, teacher

--
mitcho (Michael 芳貴 Erlewine)
mit...@mitcho.com
http://mitcho.com/
linguist, coder, teacher

 
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