JiffyDOS for VIC-20

[Paul Foerster]

Hi Jim,

... I know there has once been a bounty for creating JiffyDOS for the
VIC-20. Well, I want one, well three so to speak, and searched around
the net and indeed found an archive containing all sorts of JiffyDOS
bin files, one of which being a version for the VIC-20.

I wonder, if I sent you the bin file with the VIC-20 version, could
you put it into a switchable ROM adapter like the ones you have for
C64/C128(D) along with the original ROM image? If you'd do that, then
I would buy 3 of them instantly. :-)

I only hope there's no difference between PAL and NTSC ROM images,
because I live in PAL land. :-)
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[John E. Bielak]

...and I bought one on eBay from He Who Duplicates a while back. Ya
It's a nice addition to the Vic, would love to get several more legit
ones too. Wouldn't say no to a Plus4 version Either.

On 7/26/2012 12:39 PM, Howlin' Alan wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:57:13 PM UTC-4, Paul F�rster wrote:
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> ... I know there has once been a bounty for creating JiffyDOS for the
>> VIC-20. Well, I want one, well three so to speak, and searched around
>> the net and indeed found an archive containing all sorts of JiffyDOS
>> bin files, one of which being a version for the VIC-20.
>>
>

> He Who Shall Remain Nameless developed a VIC-20 JiffyDOS years ago. I have one. It works well,
>

[RETRO Innovations]

Legally, I cannot do that without a proper license.

This isn't really the proper group for this discussion, and I think you
intended this as a personal message. However, if you could secure a
license to the JiffyDOS modifications from Maurice Randall, I would be
happy to help you.

Obviously, though I suspect there is nomimal demand for the VIC and +4
versions, I still hold hope that I can on day arrange licensing with MR,
as I do dread not being legally able to assist. Regardless of folks'
views of Maurice, he did devote significant energy making the
modifications, and I have no issues compensating for that work. Another
part of me just hates to replicate the work effort.

Jim



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[Paul Foerster]

Hi Jim,

> Legally, I cannot do that without a proper license.

... understandable.

> This isn't really the proper group for this discussion, and I think you
> intended this as a personal message. However, if you could secure a license
> to the JiffyDOS modifications from Maurice Randall, I would be happy to help
> you.

... I can not help with a license because I can surely not pay enough
to obtain it. :-( I could burn the images into en EPROM myself and use
a standard adapter socket with a switchable address line to switch
between the images. Hence, there's no chance for Maurice to prevent me
from doing this. :-P Still, I'd love to have a proper manufactured
version instead of my less then unprofessionally manufactured
approach. ;-) That's why I asked.

Also, I did post this issue here to also see if there's some interest
of other people also getting one and to see if it would be worth for
you to produce a production run.

> Obviously, though I suspect there is nomimal demand for the VIC and +4
> versions, I still hold hope that I can on day arrange licensing with MR, as
> I do dread not being legally able to assist. Regardless of folks' views of
> Maurice, he did devote significant energy making the modifications, and I
> have no issues compensating for that work. Another part of me just hates to
> replicate the work effort.

... I have no problem with Maurice. I don't even know him. Where can I
reach him to ask about license issues?
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Paul
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[Paul Foerster]

Hi all, hi Jim,

> Obviously, though I suspect there is nomimal demand for the VIC and +4
> versions, I still hold hope that I can on day arrange licensing with MR, as
> I do dread not being legally able to assist.

... seems like I found a person who not only sells the VIC-20 version,
but also a C64/+4 version. For the VIC-20 version, you'd have to
specify whether you want PAL or NTSC. For the C16/+4 version, there is
no difference between PAL and NTSC. Also, the chips for the C16 and +4
are identical.

If you're on lemon64.com, contact "eslapion" (real name Francois
Leveille). He sell's all three versions, worldwide. I ordered quite a
bunch from him. He gave me a discount on my comparatively big order of
15 items (10 x PAL VIC-20, 2 x NTSC VIC-20 and 3 x C16/+4). And best
of all, I didn't even ask for it. :-)

Jim, in one of his posts he mentions that he will continue to sell
them until you (or in fact anyone) manages to get the license from
Maurice.
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Paul
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[Dan]

I would be interested in jiffydos for the +4.

Dan

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[Jim Brain]

On 7/27/2012 1:20 AM, Paul Foerster wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
>> Legally, I cannot do that without a proper license.
>

>> Obviously, though I suspect there is nomimal demand for the VIC and +4
>> versions, I still hold hope that I can on day arrange licensing with MR, as
>> I do dread not being legally able to assist. Regardless of folks' views of
>> Maurice, he did devote significant energy making the modifications, and I
>> have no issues compensating for that work. Another part of me just hates to
>> replicate the work effort.
>

Just a quick note on this old thread to note that I now have secured a
license for VIC-20 JD. I will put it up in the store for order.

Jim


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[geneb]

On Tue, 11 Dec 2012, Jim Brain wrote:

>>
> Just a quick note on this old thread to note that I now have secured a
> license for VIC-20 JD. I will put it up in the store for order.
>

I thought that version of JD never made it past the beta stage. Nice to
see I'm wrong!

g.

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[Paul Förster]

Hey Jim,

> Just a quick note on this old thread to note that I now have secured a license for VIC-20 JD. I will put it up in the store for order.

... that is sooo cool! And you offer both PAL and NTSC versions?
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[RETRO Innovations]

On 12/12/2012 10:26 AM, Paul F�rster wrote:
> Hey Jim,
>
>> Just a quick note on this old thread to note that I now have secured a license for VIC-20 JD. I will put it up in the store for order.
> ... that is sooo cool! And you offer both PAL and NTSC versions?

Yep!

[Terry Raymond]

Hi Jim,

My Vic would be better with Jiffy dos, this version will work okay still with

the CMD HD and FD-2000 since these are just serial devices and will work with the Vic

including of course the u-IEC (way better).

We need some sort of memory expansion cartridges for the Vic though, myself I like the

Commodore style that has the built in Dip switches where you can change the memory 

banks, but just support more than 16kb of memory.  The place overseas that made the

Vic cartridge with lots of Rom games doesnt even answer my email so I have not been 

able to purchase this cool cartridge, is why I was making this inquiry.

Terry Raymond