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Terry Raymond

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Sep 21, 2012, 3:41:07 PM9/21/12
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Hi all,

Wasnt there a small program for making C= image files right on
the C= machine?

I have the PC software for making disk images, but in transferring the 
Commodore files, would they then be truncated to the 8 character limit?

I know there is the C= software to create a zip archive, would it help
to:  copy the C= files I want to make an image of to the location, or on
a certain partition, 
 Zip these all together.  
Then copy this to my PC
put the files I want to make into an image file into an empty
PC folder,
 from there use the PC software to create the disk image.

But in this process would the 8 character limit still mess up my
original commodore files?

If so Im back to making the disk image right on my Commodore if that is the case, 
so I was wanting to see if the Commodore way would be better.

If the PC way is workable, how do I go about safely transferring the file
without the filenames being messed up or condensed to the 8 charcter limit?

I would like to back up a lot of my Commodore disks but not sure about this
process.

Thanks all,

Terry Raymond


Steve Gray

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Sep 21, 2012, 4:25:05 PM9/21/12
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Terry,
 
I think you are referring to "D64IT" to make images on your commodore machine. You will still need another drive with higher capacity to save them to, ie: cmd hard drive or 1581.
PC's haven't been limited to 8 characters for a while, however there are still certain characters that are illegal for DOS filenames, like ":\|<>" etc. Any commodore file using these will have to be converted. Unless you use the "P00" format, in which case the original filename is preserved in the file. Of course this means you can't use the file in DOS "as-is" unless the utility understands them.
 
The best way to preserve commodore disks is via disk images D64,D71,D81 etc. That way the filenames, and data remain unchanged.. they are simply stored in the image as-is. Only the name of the image is restricted to DOS filename conventions.
 
Steve

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Jeremy

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Sep 23, 2012, 6:32:41 PM9/23/12
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From: Terry Raymond <traym...@gmail.com>
Date: Sep 21 01:41PM -0600
>
> Hi all,
>
> Wasnt there a small program for making C= image files right on
> the C= machine?
>
> I have the PC software for making disk images, but in transferring the
> Commodore files, would they then be truncated to the 8 character limit?
>
> I know there is the C= software to create a zip archive, would it help
> to: copy the C= files I want to make an image of to the location, or on
> a certain partition,
> Zip these all together.
> Then copy this to my PC
> put the files I want to make into an image file into an empty
> PC folder,
> from there use the PC software to create the disk image.
>
> But in this process would the 8 character limit still mess up my
> original commodore files?
>
> If so Im back to making the disk image right on my Commodore if that is the
> case,
> so I was wanting to see if the Commodore way would be better.
>
> If the PC way is workable, how do I go about safely transferring the file
> without the filenames being messed up or condensed to the 8 charcter limit?
>
> I would like to back up a lot of my Commodore disks but not sure about this
> process.
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Terry Raymond

I am not sure if this will work or not with UIEC, but I do believe you
might have these programs in your possession. Have you thought of using
GeoBeep and Geozip? Then transferring the resultant files through your
preferred transfer to the PC? -- Jeremy

Jim Peters

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Sep 26, 2012, 8:01:52 AM9/26/12
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Terry,
    Check out this program by Payton Byrd.  It will make images or write images to disk and many other file handling tasks.  It's a free download at his web site and he also has a instructional video on the same web page.  I like the program and use it often.

        http://cbmcommand.codeplex.com/

Jim Peters

Terry Raymond

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Sep 26, 2012, 6:51:15 PM9/26/12
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Okay thanks,

Hi Jim I think you mean: GeoBeap, but sometimes me and GeoBeap dont
get along too well together and I never get anything done.  Dont get me wrong
GeoBeap "is" a good application I guess its just me.  :)

I will try both.

Thanks guys.

Terry


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Jim Peters

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Sep 26, 2012, 8:38:24 PM9/26/12
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On 9/26/2012 5:51 PM, Terry Raymond wrote:
Okay thanks,

Hi Jim I think you mean: GeoBeap, but sometimes me and GeoBeap dont
get along too well together and I never get anything done.  Dont get me wrong
GeoBeap "is" a good application I guess its just me.  :)

I will try both.

Thanks guys.

Terry

No I mean CBM Command.  It doesn't have a thing to do with GEOS

Jeremy

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Sep 27, 2012, 6:44:50 PM9/27/12
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> From: Jim Peters<tj...@mchsi.com> Date: Sep 26 07:38PM -0500
> Date: Sep 26 07:38PM -0500
>
>
> On 9/26/2012 5:51 PM, Terry Raymond wrote:
>
>> >I will try both.
>> >Thanks guys.
>> >Terry
>
> No I mean CBM Command. It doesn't have a thing to do with GEOS

Terry,

Maybe you are just not Geos-ified with that program? I strongly
recommend Payton Byrd's CBM Commmand. AS Jim suggested, it does a number
of things and it will probably do what you are wanting.

If you are not into GeoBeap, try CBM Command.

-- Jeremy
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