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From: Mark Sullivan <m...@marksullivan.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:01:11 -0500
Local: Thurs, Sep 27 2012 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: [TX/RX Labs] Re: The walls that are being built
Some of us had discussed this whole problem vis-a-vis the electrical wiring. We decided on surface conduit for several reasons:
1. We can't use Romex because the walls aren't continuous.
2. Surface mount lets us do a phased installation - we only have to pay for the essential areas now and we can build out as we have time and money. Also, we can add on later in a consistent way if we add equipment that requires special service.
3. It is an appropriate artistic choice that fits the "geek chic" aesthetic of the lab. Think Pompidou center.
Especially for the latter reason, I suggest using surface mount wiring duct for the data lines. Artistically, if you're going to break the rules, break them big and intentionally. So instead of hiding the wires in the walls, embrace the look of exposed conduit. Better yet, paint the conduit bright primary colors so everyone understands that it's a choice, not a compromise.
Also, we're still up against the lack of contiguous walls. Yes, you can run LV wiring without conduit but if you run it in an "environmental air space", i.e. not inside the wall, you have to use plenum-rated cable which is more expensive.
I've used this duct/raceway in the past and I thought it looked fine. The PN05 size will carry 5 ea CAT5 or 3 CAT6. It comes with a PSA backing and you can get all kinds of elbows, tees, outlet boxes, etc for it.
- Mark -
> I understand being protective of your work, especially since some
> of it did get undone and had to be re-done. I sympathize. We've
> moved the supercomputer, piece by piece, three times, and it's
> still not where it needs to be.
>
> Wires crawling down the walls is what we had at the old space, and
> I don't think it's OK, and I want to do something better at the new
> space.
>
> That said, the best-looking, least expensive, and best method from
> a technical standpoint, would be to put the wire inside the walls,
> and yes it would have been easier earlier. Low-voltage doesn't
> require conduit, so it would save a lot of money to put it inside
> the wall. The only holes that need to be added would be on the top
> of the wall, and where the actual box will go. That's it.
>
> I get the emotional attachment, I really do. But we're not here to
> compete, we're here to cooperate. Is there a better option we can
> come up with?
>
> David
>
> On 09/25/2012 08:25 AM, Jeff Hutchison wrote:
>> It's never too late - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwXAWsp9wps
>> However, it would've been substantially easier before the drywall
>> was up.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Roland von Kurnatowski III
>> <rtavk3@gmail.com <mailto:rtavk3@gmail.com>>; wrote:
>>
>> not bad greg, i was hoping to find something for the electrical
>> benches that is ESD safe though but that might be a pipe dream.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 9:49:46 PM UTC-5, Chris K. wrote:
>>
>> Dude, if you think "wire(s) crawling down the wall sticking into
>> a box that's just taped to the wall" is, in any way, acceptable,
>> then please do the world a favor and never run any sort of
>> wiring... internal or external... ever.
>>
>> Anyway, to answer your question, yes, it is very much too late to
>> run anything inside those walls. The sheet-rock is already up
>> (thanks largely to my father, who drove down from Dallas to
>> visit, and ended up helping me hang drywall instead) and has
>> already been mudded (twice) by Tristan.
>>
>> On Monday, September 24, 2012 4:56:05 PM UTC-5, David Nielson
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is it too late to put holes in the top studs of the new walls so
>> that
>> network cable can be dropped in and put in a box inside the wall?
>> A wall
>> plate flat against a wall would look a lot better than wire(s)
>> crawling
>> down the wall sticking into a box that's just taped to the wall,
>> though they will both work.
>>
>> David
>>
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