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Diogenes

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Aug 21, 2009, 6:27:40 PM8/21/09
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Texas governor Rick Perry uses his bully pulpit to Praise the Lord and
denounce "ungodly secularists." His speeches are designed to give the most
reticent Baptist minister a raging spiritual hard-on. His public remarks
are peppered with Christ this, Jesus that, and Washed in the Blood of the
Lamb - and there's always a prodigious dose of Old Testament condemnation
thrown in for good measure. Like every other evangelical with a taste for
Rapture, Gov. Rick Perry wears his religion on his sleeve and is dismissive
of constituents who refuse to worship "correctly." Texans who disagree with
his fundamentalist views should move elsewhere, Perry says. And the
"establishment clause" of the First Amendment? Not worth the parchment it's
written on.

Now this Bible-quoting, gun-toting secessionist who can't take a breath
without invoking the Holy Spirit has announced that there should be MORE
religion in government, not less. Perry told a gathering of fellow
believers at the New Life Christian Center in San Antonio that the notion
that laws should not be dictated by religion is an "extreme" one. He
challenged the faithful to "speak up to defend those whose rights are being
eroded by an increasingly secular culture."

BobR

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Aug 21, 2009, 6:48:51 PM8/21/09
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Touch a nerve did he? Sounds like some real serious guilt issues
there.

NotMe

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Aug 21, 2009, 7:40:14 PM8/21/09
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"Diogenes" <Diog...@its.invalid> wrote in message
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: Texas governor Rick Perry uses his bully pulpit to Praise the Lord and


If He was to preach today like He preached in Galilee,
they would lay Jesus Christ in his grave all over again.
-- Woody Guthrie, speaking about the "conservatives" of his day

That said it's been my experience that anytime society has mixed politics
with religion or education someone gets burned at the stake.


Al

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Aug 21, 2009, 7:47:19 PM8/21/09
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In article <h6nb8r$2f4$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

We've been doing the mix for a couple of centuries, I don't recall
anyone getting burned at the stake lately, and religious schools, like
the one my daughter attended for her first 4 years, turn out students
well ahead of their government-school peers. When she went to GS, she
was about 2 years ahead.

She didn't get burned at the stake.

And politicians invoke religion, and pander to the religious all the
time. Obama just did it yesterday, no big deal.

Don't be so afraid, this isn't Saudi Arabia.

NotMe

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Aug 21, 2009, 8:20:33 PM8/21/09
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"Al"

: > : Texas governor Rick Perry uses his bully pulpit to Praise the Lord and

I left out one qualification that being the reference was to public
education although I've seen a fair about of torches and pitch forks in the
religious education system as well.

BTW the reference was to a virtual burning.


Al

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Aug 21, 2009, 9:03:17 PM8/21/09
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In article <h6nell$p51$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

One other difference between the private schools/religious schools is
the level of security, and what that suggests.

The whole idea behind private school, religious or otherwise, is the
quality of education you want to give your child.

If you can afford it, it's not a bad idea - especially in the early
years, because they set a tone of expectations that the public option
can't.

People who pay school taxes and still send their kids to private schools
tend to have higher expectations of their kids. Sad to say, but
government education nowadays is plagued by poor parenting above all.


> BTW the reference was to a virtual burning.

That's what I assumed, but even as a metaphor it doesn't work.

Obama certainly didn't get burnt by his 20-year association with a
radical Christian, and Billy Graham probably still haunts the White
House. There doesn't seem to be any blowback.

Maybe it's because we're used to religion being a part of our history
and everyday reality, and we're used to it. Atheist regimes donlt do
very well, so given the option...

NotMe

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Aug 21, 2009, 9:34:12 PM8/21/09
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"Al" <albert.f...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: In article <h6nell$p51$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,

I'm deep in the southern bible belt and until recently acted as a gardium ad
litem in family court.

I've watched up front and personal the abuse generated by people that try to
mix religion with politics and education. Unfortunately it's the young and
innocent that get burned.

Don't get me wrong religion can and does have very positive impact of folks'
lives but in the wrong mix it or if distorted it can generate serious
problems.

I knew Jimmy Swaggart and Robert Tilton personally and did not like either
from the get go. Never met Graham personally but have had some dealing with
the work his organization does.


The Chief Instigator

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Aug 22, 2009, 12:14:55 AM8/22/09
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"Diogenes" <Diog...@its.invalid> writes:

Governor Goodhair is setting himself up for a stomping by Kay Hutchison 15
months (minus two or three weeks) from now.

--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Manitoba 3, Houston 1 (May 25: Moose advance, 4-2)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, October 2 at Manitoba, 7:35

Lars Eighner

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Aug 22, 2009, 2:12:46 AM8/22/09
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Rick Perry quoting the Bible is a pretty good summary of the Bible is for
and who uses it.

--
Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5835, 1993
213 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't.

Al

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Aug 22, 2009, 9:53:22 AM8/22/09
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In article <h6nhuj$cmj$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"NotMe" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

Is religion exclusive in this burning, or is maybe just another element
of human life that can be abused?

Is religion more problematic than, say, alcohol? Drugs? Cars?
Electricity? Water?

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