At Reply Spam
Dewald Pretorius
now also officially sanctioned by Twitter?
TjL
> With reference to @twittersuggests, is other unsolicited @reply spam
> now also officially sanctioned by Twitter?
When has Twitter ever given you the idea that they were playing by the
same rules as everyone else?
Arnaud Meunier
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TjL
> Neither our TOS nor our Automation Rules & Best Practices
> (http://support.twitter.com/articles/76915) have changed since the launch
> of @twittersuggests experimental feature :)
I think that's pretty much what I said :)
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
about all of you, but I got a good belly laugh from discovering this
on Louis Gray's blog last night, following the links to some NSFW
tweets and then reading the ReadWriteWeb post Marshall Kirkpatrick
made on the subject. ;-)
Yeah, it's a bad idea IMHO but I did need a good laugh.
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Dewald Pretorius
That's comforting to know. With that being the case, can you please
enlighten us as to why Twitter is apparently violating its own rules,
which, as you said, are still in force and we all still are apparently
expected to adhere to?
Let me help you and quote from your rules the appropriate text: "If
you are automatically sending @reply messages or Mentions to a bunch
of users, the recipients must request or approve this action in
advance."
Have any of the users targeted by @twittersuggests, which is sending
automated @reply messages "to a bunch of users", explicitly requested
or approved this action in advance?
If not, then you may have de facto invalidated that section of your
rules and by implication exempted all developers and applications from
it.
On May 5, 12:45 pm, Arnaud Meunier <arn...@twitter.com> wrote:
> Hey Dewald,
>
> Neither our TOS nor our Automation Rules & Best Practices (http://support.twitter.com/articles/76915) have changed since the launch
> of @twittersuggests experimental feature :)
>
TjL
> If not, then you may have de facto invalidated that section of your
> rules and by implication exempted all developers and applications from
> it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Um… Yeah.
Here's the thing: it's Twitter's playground.
They can do whatever they want with it.
Just because they do it, doesn't mean you can do it.
I don't know what sort of universal, "nature law" you think applies
here, but it doesn't.
TjL
hax0rsteve
+1
It is Twitter's ball.
Arnaud Meunier
These rules apply to third party apps. @twittersuggests is not a third
party app, but an experimental feature, developed and owned by
Twitter.
Now I can also understand this "Do as I Say, not as I Do" situation
can be irritating. But I guess the best thing to do at this point is
probably to share your thoughts on the experiment through his
dedicated feedback form:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/a/twitter.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHJ6UnYwdFZ6aHNRRVJoTU1mYl9FMlE6MQ
Arnaud / @rno
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
suggested users - it didn't take either me or Marshall Kirkpatrick
long to find a tweeter that was not safe for work in @twittersuggests'
stream.
It's a bad idea - Twitter needs to quit screwing around with stuff
like this and solve problems that keep people with budgets up at
night!
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Dean Collins
If you guys want a suggestion on what Twitter should be working on then my list would include things that corporates would actually want to pay money for including analytics and analysis on who is viewing my tweets.
The day Twitter pony up and start allowing paid accounts is the day I know their serious.
Cheers,
Dean
Dean Collins
Cheers,
Dean
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Collins
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 6:23 AM
To: 'twitter-deve...@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: [twitter-dev] Re: At Reply Spam
Arnaud,
If you guys want a suggestion on what Twitter should be working on then my list would include things that corporates would actually want to pay money for including analytics and analysis on who is viewing my tweets.
The day Twitter pony up and start allowing paid accounts is the day I know their serious.
Cheers,
Dean
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Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:12 AM
To: twitter-deve...@googlegroups.com
Cc: dpr...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [twitter-dev] Re: At Reply Spam
Dewald Pretorius
Know what I totally cannot understand? Why is it that Twitter, through
various spokespersons, continually reinforces the impression that they
pay scant lip service to the alleged notion that they value the third
party developer ecosystem?
Under any circumstances, "Do as I say, not as I do," is disrespectful
and demonstrates that the intended audience of that approach is viewed
by the perpetrators of the approach as occupying a lower and less
privileged strata of society. It is disrespectful when you treat your
kids that way. It is disrespectful when you treat your life partner
that way. It is disrespectful when you treat your business partners
that way.
Does Twitter like pointing a loaded gun at its own foot and pulling
the trigger, again and again?
On May 6, 4:38 am, Arnaud Meunier <arn...@twitter.com> wrote:
> Dewald,
>
> These rules apply to third party apps. @twittersuggests is not a third
> party app, but an experimental feature, developed and owned by
> Twitter.
>
> Now I can also understand this "Do as I Say, not as I Do" situation
> can be irritating. But I guess the best thing to do at this point is
> probably to share your thoughts on the experiment through his