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railheaddesign@gmail.com  
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From: "railheaddes...@gmail.com" <railheaddes...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:44:11 -0700
Local: Wed, Mar 14 2007 11:44 am
Subject: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
I'd like to have the "From" attribute set to my application's name,
rather than "From web."

Any plans on opening this up to us?


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RickMeasham  
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 More options Mar 15 2007, 5:28 pm
From: "RickMeasham" <ri...@isite.net.au>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:28:12 -0000
Local: Thurs, Mar 15 2007 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
On Mar 15, 2:44 am, "railheaddes...@gmail.com"

<railheaddes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to have the "From" attribute set to my application's name,
> rather than "From web."

This would be great .. I see it as only possible once they create some
sort of third party authentication system so that the API know which
application sent the status.

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Alex Payne  
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 More options Mar 15 2007, 9:46 pm
From: Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:46:37 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 15 2007 9:46 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
We're discussing a solution for this internally, and we'll get back  
to you ASAP.

--
Alex Payne
Obvious
http://twitter.com/al3x

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 More options Mar 16 2007, 1:42 am
From: "bear" <bea...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 05:42:46 -0000
Local: Fri, Mar 16 2007 1:42 am
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
how does twitterific do it then?

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Alex Payne  
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 More options Mar 16 2007, 11:13 am
From: Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:13:05 -0400
Local: Fri, Mar 16 2007 11:13 am
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
At the moment, Twitterific passes a special parameter to us when  
updating, and we simply verify that it's the string we're looking  
for.  Dead simple, but decidedly manual.  We've got something better  
in the works.

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Ed Finkler  
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 More options Mar 16 2007, 7:28 pm
From: "Ed Finkler" <funkat...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:28:08 -0400
Local: Fri, Mar 16 2007 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
On 3/16/07, Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net> wrote:

> At the moment, Twitterific passes a special parameter to us when
> updating, and we simply verify that it's the string we're looking
> for.  Dead simple, but decidedly manual.  We've got something better
> in the works.

Awesome.  I'm totally jealous of those Twitterriffic folks.

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http://funkatron.com/


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kev...@newsgator.com  
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 More options Mar 19 2007, 2:26 pm
From: kev...@newsgator.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:26:01 -0000
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2007 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
cool... i am looking for this as well!

a user-agent addition could be a simple solt'n: Twitter-App-Name/
TinyTwitter

just a thought... and keep up the awesome work!!!

-kevin

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Ed Finkler  
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 More options Mar 19 2007, 4:09 pm
From: "Ed Finkler" <funkat...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:09:51 -0400
Local: Mon, Mar 19 2007 4:09 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
On 3/19/07, kev...@newsgator.com <kev...@newsgator.com> wrote:

> cool... i am looking for this as well!

> a user-agent addition could be a simple solt'n: Twitter-App-Name/
> TinyTwitter

Yes, actually, I plan on setting that header in the next version of
Spaz.  Being a bit lazy atm with it.

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Alex Payne  
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 More options Mar 21 2007, 4:35 pm
From: Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:35:39 -0400
Local: Wed, Mar 21 2007 4:35 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
Please do start sending headers to us.  It'll be most helpful for  
planning our capacity.

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Alex Payne
Obvious
http://twitter.com/al3x

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Rick Measham  
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 More options Mar 21 2007, 5:26 pm
From: Rick Measham <ri...@isite.net.au>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:26:41 +1100
Local: Wed, Mar 21 2007 5:26 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program

Alex Payne wrote:
> Please do start sending headers to us.  It'll be most helpful for
> planning our capacity.

I'd imagine we should be sending an X-Twitter-Client header rather than
a User-Agent, as the actual User-Agent is good for monitoring (claimed)
browsers and/or WWW libraries.

If User-Agent, then it should be *appended* to the existing one. Eg:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.3) Gecko/20070309
Firefox/2.0.0.3 Twitter/GoogleGadget/1.01

I really want to push for X headers though. Even if twitter.com doesn't
use them immediately, they may be of interest in the future (esp the URL
for advertising a library of clients)

X-Twitter-Client: GoogleGadget
X-Twitter-Client-URL: http://twitter.isite.net.au/meta.xml
X-Twitter-Client-Version: 1.01

(The meta.xml would be something like the following:)

<client>
        <name>GoogleGadget</name>
        <version>2.01</version>       <!-- so we need to update! There's a new
one! -->
        <author>
                <name>Rick Measham</name>
                <email>goo...@twitter.isite.net.au</email>
                <twitter>RickMeasham</twitter>
        </author>
        <url>http://twitter.isite.net.au</url>
        <twitter>GoogleGadget</twitter>
        <description><[CDATA[
                The Twitter Google Gadget brings all the fun of twitter to your Google
personalised homepage.
                <a
href="http://fusion.google.com/add?feedurl=http%3A//twitter.isite.net.au/tw..."><img
src="http://buttons.googlesyndication.com/fusion/add.gif" width="104"
height="17" border="0" alt="Add to Google"></a>
        ]]>
</client>

Just my $0.02 .. I'll set the above X-Headers until I get word otherwise :-D

Cheers!
Rick Measham
(RickMeasham)


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Alex Payne  
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 More options Mar 21 2007, 6:00 pm
From: Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:00:24 -0400
Local: Wed, Mar 21 2007 6:00 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
Rick,

Those X headers are exactly along the lines of what I was thinking.  
Thanks for setting a sane de-facto standard!

--
Alex Payne
Obvious
http://twitter.com/al3x

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Rick Measham  
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 More options Mar 21 2007, 6:40 pm
From: Rick Measham <ri...@isite.net.au>
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:40:27 +1100
Local: Wed, Mar 21 2007 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program

Alex Payne wrote:
> Those X headers are exactly along the lines of what I was thinking.  
> Thanks for setting a sane de-facto standard!

Woowoo! You should already have a pile of requests using them .. I'm
also setting the X-Forwarded-For header as my Google Gadget needs a
gateway to turn request parameters into basic auth (though I may be able
to get it to do login-auth and avoid that .. Mmmm)

I've put the header information on the API Docs wiki
(http://twitter.pbwiki.com/API-Docs) but noted that they're only in
their infancy :)

Anyone else, feel free to comment .. especially on the meta XML.

Cheers!
Rick Measham


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Ed Finkler  
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 More options Mar 21 2007, 10:27 pm
From: "Ed Finkler" <funkat...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:27:22 -0400
Local: Wed, Mar 21 2007 10:27 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
On 3/21/07, Rick Measham <ri...@isite.net.au> wrote:

Oh, that's rather good, Rick.  I was going to have a more standard
User-Agent string, but now you've upped the bar.  On second thought,
now you've given me more work -- dammit! ;)

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kev...@newsgator.com  
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 More options Mar 23 2007, 2:25 pm
From: kev...@newsgator.com
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:25:39 -0000
Local: Fri, Mar 23 2007 2:25 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
nicely done rick - i like!

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 More options Mar 23 2007, 8:37 pm
From: "Ed Finkler" <funkat...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:37:17 -0400
Local: Fri, Mar 23 2007 8:37 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
BTW, I'm implementing the X-headers and meta.xml file in Spaz as of v 0.2.2.

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Ordinal Malaprop  
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 More options Mar 24 2007, 2:58 pm
From: "Ordinal Malaprop" <cubic.arc...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:58:02 -0000
Local: Sat, Mar 24 2007 2:58 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
I have put in the X-headers in the current Twitterbox 0.3, and have
posted about it as well (for anyone who actually reads my nonsense).

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 More options Mar 25 2007, 4:27 pm
From: "railheaddes...@gmail.com" <railheaddes...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 13:27:35 -0700
Local: Sun, Mar 25 2007 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
I've added them to TwitterPost, but I'm still seeing "from web."

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Rick Measham  
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 More options Mar 25 2007, 4:59 pm
From: Rick Measham <ri...@isite.net.au>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 06:59:39 +1000
Local: Sun, Mar 25 2007 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program

railheaddes...@gmail.com wrote:
> I've added them to TwitterPost, but I'm still seeing "from web."

The inclusion of the headers was in readiness for including it in the
site and feeds .. it's not there yet :)

BTW: Alex .. Just occurred to me that this 'source' isn't in the JSON or
XML yet.

Cheers!
Rick Measham


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 More options Mar 25 2007, 6:08 pm
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Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:08:43 +0000
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Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program

On 3/25/07, railheaddes...@gmail.com <railheaddes...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've added them to TwitterPost, but I'm still seeing "from web."

I think it will be a while until Twitter actually implement them at their
end. At the moment, they're just "a sane de-facto standard", according to
Alex..

Mario.


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Alex Payne  
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 More options Mar 25 2007, 9:53 pm
From: Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net>
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:53:54 -0400
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Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
You got it, Mario.  We'll let people know when we start approving  
third-party applications to show up as the source on the web site.  
It should be tied into the release of our AuthSub/Flickr-auth system  
that Blaine has made mention of on this list.

--
Alex Payne
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 More options Mar 26 2007, 11:44 am
From: "alexkingorg" <alexking...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:44:41 -0000
Local: Mon, Mar 26 2007 11:44 am
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
Perhaps you could "bless" or modify the format proposed in the docs:

http://twitter.pbwiki.com/API-Docs

in the near future?

I'm holding off on a "real" release of my WordPress integration plugin
because I want to include the proper headers. If I know they will
begin working automagically in the future, I would go ahead and
release it now.

Thanks,
--Alex King

http://alexking.org

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 More options Mar 29 2007, 3:57 am
From: tho...@mewes.org
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:57:09 -0700
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 3:57 am
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
Any news on this?

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 More options Mar 29 2007, 11:31 am
From: Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:31:54 -0400
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 11:31 am
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
As per the recently released official API documentation:

"the Twitter engineers are working an authentication scheme similar  
to Google’s AuthSub or Flickr’s API Authentication.  This will have  
added benefit of registering third-party applications to better  
promote them on the site.  The Development Talk group will be  
notified when this authentication scheme is ready for testing."

We're not quite there yet.  Thanks!

--
Alex Payne
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Siegfried Hirsch  
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 More options Mar 29 2007, 4:59 pm
From: "Siegfried Hirsch" <siegfried.hir...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:59:32 +0200
Local: Thurs, Mar 29 2007 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: Letting Us Set the "From" Attribute To Our Program
2007/3/29, Alex Payne <a...@al3x.net>:

> As per the recently released official API documentation:

> "the Twitter engineers are working an authentication scheme similar
> to Google's AuthSub or Flickr's API Authentication.  This will have
> added benefit of registering third-party applications to better
> promote them on the site.  The Development Talk group will be
> notified when this authentication scheme is ready for testing."

> We're not quite there yet.  Thanks!

I'm doing the triQQr tool for windows and extending it to use the new
api functions.

That sounds good - do you have a time frame for this? Cause I had
inserted a like to my tools homepage and I am justing dropping this
behavior for the next version.

and keep the servers running ;)
--
Siegfried // http://triQQr.de


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