Patrick K. O'Brien wrote:
> Cliff Wells wrote:

> > So apparently Patrick is at odds with Orbtech management, which would
> > perhaps mark him as schizophrenic (since he *is* the management) or
> > Ilias is a blatant liar.

> While I would rather stay out of this discussion as much as possible, I
> feel I must address these comments since I have access to certain facts
> that others do not.  I do own the company known as Orbtech, so that
> would definitely make me part of management.  And Orbtech did indeed
> retain the services of Mr. Lazaridis for a period of time.  I had hoped
> that good things might result from hiring one of my harshest critics.

> My relationship with Ilias had its ups and downs, but there came a time
> when I decided to no longer retain his services.  I don't hold any
> animosity towards Ilias and wish him well.  I believe he feels the same
> way towards me.

> I'd rather not comment too much on his methods or reputation as a
> spammer other than to say that while I do not agree with many of his
> methods, I think some of his reputation is undeserved and unfortunate.
> Hopefully you won't believe everything you read about a person and will
> attempt to make your own judgements, or just stick to the technical
> details of the discussion.

> I hope that was helpful.  Ilias is free to disagree with any of my
> statements (not that he needs my permission since this is a public
> forum).

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> Patrick K. O'Brien
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