But reading Ilias' page, he claims that despite Patrick's clear refusal
of his commercial services, Orbtech, LLC retained him anyway:
http://audit.lazaridis.com/schevo

This seems rather odd, given that Orbtech's home page claims that it's
lead by Patrick K. O'Brien:
http://orbtech.com/

Further, he creates the impression that Patrick's refusal of his
services somehow reflected badly on the project lead:
http://audit.lazaridis.com/schevo/wiki/SchevoTeamRating

So apparently Patrick is at odds with Orbtech management, which would
perhaps mark him as schizophrenic (since he *is* the management) or
Ilias is a blatant liar.

I'm not fond of banning, except in the case of spamming and I think
Ilias is a spammer.  His technique is more subtle, but the goal is
clearly the same.  Every single post he makes is sure to include one or
more links to his site.  The fact that he disguises it as legitimate
conversation doesn't change what it is.
I don't think he's a troll so much as an entrepreneur with very poor
ideas about honesty and how to properly garner business for himself.  I
don't think he's likely to attract much business from this list, but it
does bother me a bit that he's using this list to try to legitimize what
is apparently a complete falsehood.

I expect it's only a matter of time until he's claiming he's been
retained by Blazing Things, LLC to audit TurboGears despite the open
animosity the project lead Kevin Dangoor showed toward him <wink>.
Watch out Kevin, next thing you know, Blazing Things will have you
replaced ;-)

Regards,
Cliff

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