Yea, fastdata would have helped quite a bit on the last trial, but I can't blame him for not using alpha features. O.T. - I was amazed at how fast this guy typed. He makes good use of autocompletion, can write a DTD from memory, and drum out 30 lines of code or html in about 10 seconds.
> Yea, fastdata would have helped quite a bit on the last trial, but I > can't blame him for not using alpha features. O.T. - I was amazed at > how fast this guy typed. He makes good use of autocompletion, can > write a DTD from memory, and drum out 30 lines of code or html in about > 10 seconds.
Um, I think he had recorded that and was just talking over the playback. At least, that's the impression I got. It was a very interesting presentation. I was surprised how well Zope/Plone rated, since I found them very confusing. I guess when I looked at them, I was looking for a CMS, not a development framework.
OTOH, as a J2EE developer (in my day job), I was not at all surprised at how J2EE rated.
What a nice screencast, after watching this I think it's time to do some re-implementation with new turbogears elements.
In the morning, I wake up and did it in an hour (including writing doc and capture figures).I convinced that the whole iteration could be done in 10 minutes(or less) to catch up with Sean Kelly's demo in latest tg version through bunch of exciting new features in 0.9a (Model Designer, CatWalk, DataController...).
I'll release a doc in this weekend called "Making a Time Tracker in TurboGears " to mention about tg on this screencast and my quick re-implement with latest tg svn to show the difference. In latest tg svn the interactive develop style remain, but in new tg version we got more sleek tools to productivate ourself.
Good news, bad news. After this activity, I found the latest version (in svn) is still buggy, here are some bugs I've meet under [windows] environment:
* quickstart template generation tool not work properly(so I copy other oldversion framework fromother project) * Model Designer can't save generated code to model.py(so I copy to model.py directly) * Catwalk can't save new entry(so I use DataController to manuplate data)
> I'll release a doc in this weekend called "Making a Time Tracker in > TurboGears " to mention about tg on this screencast and my quick > re-implement with latest tg svn to show the difference. > In latest tg svn the interactive develop style remain, but in new tg > version we got more sleek tools to productivate ourself.
> Good news, bad news. After this activity, I found the latest version > (in svn) is still buggy, here are some bugs I've meet under [windows] > environment:
> * quickstart template generation tool not work properly(so I copy other > oldversion framework fromother project) > * Model Designer can't save generated code to model.py(so I copy to > model.py directly) > * Catwalk can't save new entry(so I use DataController to manuplate > data)
Thanks for doing that! 6 lines of Python code is quite an improvement. (FastData really needs a lot of work, still... not to reduce below 6 lines of code, but to add better customizability and functionality.)
Usually, I use "alpha" to mean not feature complete. In the case of 0.9, I'm using the "alpha" label because it's buggier than what I'd want to see in a beta.
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