where do I start?

[Timuçin Kızılay]

I've decided to give a try using turbogears in my new project. I've used
django before but this time my project is not a web site, it'll be a
replacement for a desktop application, mostly consist of inventory and
accounting.

When I look at the turbogears web site, there are basicly 3 versions.
Should I go for the most mature 1.x versions or should I start with the
stable 2.0 or shold I skip all of them and start learning the 2.1
version? I do not have any hosting or deployment problems because this
project will run on an internal server.

And I think the documentation is not complete. is there other links
which shows some example code to look at?

[Jose Galvez]

personally I would go for version 2.1. So what do you plan to use TG
for? You state that you are making a desktop app, are you going to use
TG for only the back end? How do you plan on communicating with your
application? or are you going to make a self hosted webapplication and
use the browser as a gui?

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[Timuçin Kızılay]

Thanks, I've decided to go for the 2.1 version and I hope by the time I
finish my project, 2.1 will be not beta.

My application will replace an old desktop application but it'll be a
self hosted web application using browser as gui. it'll not be too
complex application, just some user authentication and 3 or 4 data entry
forms (with lots of ajax code) and lots of reports.

is there any ajax library used in turbogears?

Jose Galvez yazmış:

[Jose Galvez]

I know that tosco widgets uses some, and I think they have a moca lib but I'm not to sure.  I use jquery in all my apps and find that it works really well

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[Timuçin Kızılay]

I'm familiar with jquery so I do not have to learn another javascript
library. Thats good...

The turbogears documentations seems not so complete. I'm looking for
some examples and some tutorials, where can I find them?

Jose Galvez yazmış:

[Jose Galvez]

have you looked at http://www.turbogears.org/2.1/docs/toc.html#tutorials admittedly the tutorials are not all that complicated, but they do give you a nice feel for TG.  And although the docs are not complete, between them and the tg group you can usually find what you need to know

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[notnow]

I had to comment on this thread since I am also working on an
accounting application. I started a year ago after developing a
desktop application in python. I am using turbogears 2.1 and upgrade
each time an upgrade becomes available. Since my development timeline
has another 1.5 years I have plenty of time for turbogears to
develop. Turbogears has some rough edges, primarily involving
toscawidgets. toscawidgets is developing a new branch tw2 which seems
to have great potential, but development is slow and the original tw
branch is not being maintained that well at this point. However, you
don't have to use toscawidgets for everything. If you know jquery you
will want to look at the jqgrid which I am using for my ledgers. It
has great documentation and a helpful forum. I think it would work
good with your inventory system. I need toscawidgets for the
cascading dropdowns. My application is for fund accounting so I need
3 or 4 different levels of coding for a transaction. There is no
doubt in my mind you will be satisfied with turbogears as your choice
whether its 2.1 or 1.x

On Jan 3, 5:12 pm, Jose Galvez <jj.gal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> have you looked athttp://www.turbogears.org/2.1/docs/toc.html#tutorials

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[Ed Valentine]

I have been working with TG2 but as this application development style
is new to me, I find the learning curve to be somewhat steep. It seems
each time I want to implement a new element, I need to learn the
basics behind the element. For example, simple forms are easy but well
designed forms filling the page require using the tools like CSS,
Genshi, etc.

This said, I am sticking with TG and am pleased with the results to
date.

I am using jqgrid as well and would like to start a new tread for
using TG2 and jqgrid together.

Comments?

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[werner]

Ed Valentine wrote:
> I have been working with TG2 but as this application development style
> is new to me, I find the learning curve to be somewhat steep. It seems
> each time I want to implement a new element, I need to learn the
> basics behind the element. For example, simple forms are easy but well
> designed forms filling the page require using the tools like CSS,
> Genshi, etc.
>
> This said, I am sticking with TG and am pleased with the results to
> date.
>
> I am using jqgrid as well and would like to start a new tread for
> using TG2 and jqgrid together.
>
> Comments?
>

Yes, would very much like samples/tutorials/discussions on how to do
more complex layouts.

jqgrid looks very good and would love to see a sample how one could use
it in TG 2.x.

Werner