dryers

[Its from Onion]

Everyone in the cleaning industry has always been told that hand dryers in restrooms are not sanitary, they spread germs and bacteria around.  

 

I always thought that this just came from the paper companies because they are loosing sales to the hand dryers.  A couple of years ago, I was working with a rep, and I noticed that after he washed his hands and noticed that there were no paper towels, only a hand dryer he left the restroom with wet
hands.  

 

I asked him about it.  

 

He said that hand dryers blow a lot of germs and bacteria around.  He also told me to take a look under  the hand dryer next time I was in a restroom.  There is a filter underneath the hand dryer that is supposed to be cleaned on a weekly basis.  I looked at one and it looked like it hadn't been cleaned in years.  It had layers and layers of caked on gunk (disgusting).

Since then I will not use hand dryers in restrooms.  Now this is where the story gets really interesting.  The schools and universities that have had the H1N1 (swine flue) outbreak this year are being told by the health department that they have to take out all of their hand dryers and replace them with towel dispensers  because the hand dryers are spreading disease.  

 

Please pass this along so everyone knows not to use hand dryers.

[sean]

Facilities and businesses whose restrooms have only electric hand
dryers without a paper towel dispensers are also exposing the public
to the increased spread of bacteria and viruses, as there are many who
leave the restroom after using it then place their hands on the same
door handle or plate to exit.
For those of us who are more sanitary, It is advised by health
professionals that using the paper towel you just used to dry your
hands after washing them to open the exit door, thereby reducing your
risk of exposure to harmful viruses and bacteria left behind on the
door handle. Obviously this is not possible in a restroom that doesn't
offer paper towels.
Sadly, many food service establishments are where paper towels are not
available, exposing their customers to additional risk, as these
customers will be using their hands for eating.
No one can promise or expect a germ free environment, but not offering
paper towels is an irresponsible policy and fosters a less sanitary
environment.

[scorpion]

I have a friend who is pathetic! He is a germ phobe from hell. I
have learned alot about "germs", or the imagination of germs, and real
germ facts from him.

A long time ago I finally could not take it anymore with his
compulsive behavior. He admits that he does have a problem, and it is
over the top.

I can see where he uses a paper towel to open the bathroom door, or to
kick it open with his foot. I can see using your elbow to activate a
button on a hand dryer.

I finally hit him right between the eyes! At first he was pissed
(thinking that I am making fun of his uncontrollable behavior).

He took me on a world wide tour of my behavior. He waited in time. I
did not know that he was using his cellphone to track my behavior.

He sat me down, and showed my some video shots.

We went to a fastfood restaurant. He showed me buying food, paying
for the food, stopping at the ice dispensor, and pouring a drink,and
sitting down to eat. I thought it odd that he stopped at this
restaurant as he usually avoids this place like the plague. Sorry, no
pun intended.

The video showed customers that were guilty of not washing their hands
before eating their food. These people would be the first to
complain if the worker who prepared the food had not washed their
hands. Why the double standard he wonders.

He showed me video of the ice dispensor. It had ever so slightly a
blackness around the ice chute. He says this is bacteria that is
growing.

He showed me video of the soda nozzle that had blackness inside the
nozzle.

He showed me video of gummy deposits in the drink station drain from
syrup build up.

He showed me video of the floor where a french fry was in the corner.
This was during breakfast time, and they do not serve french frys!

He wonders why people make fun of his compulsive behavior, but they do
not take food safety serious?
If you think the ice machine nozzle is dirty then what is inside of
the bin? Do they ever really stop ice production, and actually clean,
and sanitize the ice tub? No he says unless they get a stop
production order from the health dept during their inspection.

He says to look at the seam between the ice machine on top of the
drink station. Do you see any growth of any kind? If it is on the
seam area then it may be in contact with the ice that you pour in to
your cup, and drink.

What about the syrup, and soda water that flow from drink nozzle. Do
not people care what they drink?

He showed me water dripping from an AC duct, and the ceiling tile was
wet.

I asked him about hit, and the AC may need maintenance because the
water is coming from the vent, or there may be a drain pipe that is
leaking above the vent. Any ways the water was ever so slightly
dripping on people as they passed under.

There was a pass through door that was not on its hinge, and needed
some serious screws to get it back together. There were ceiling tiles
that were missing all together.

There was no soap in the bathroom. They had a hand dryer, but if it
was a paper towel dispensor he was sure it would have been empty.

He showed video of a food production employee rubbing his forehead
with the cheap plastic gloves on his hands. The employee did not
change his gloves.

He showed me video of a person that was washing their hands. They did
not dry them, and they just put on gloves. Think about the water
dripping out of the glove on to your food as they make it he says!

He did not have video, but he says the three compartment sink in the
back would normally be a mess. They are supposed to prerinse the food
out of the food bins, and containers. They then should wash it in
extremely warm, soapy water, and then they should be placed in to
clean water to rinse the soap off the containers, and then they should
be put in to a third sink where it shall stay for 60 seconds in a
sanitizing solution, and then it should be placed in a manner to allow
it to quikly air dry.

He will guaranty that they do not prerinse the dishes, and the first
compartment will actually look like some kind of "soup", and the soap
will have been dissipated, and the dishes will not be cleaned. The
rinse water is now "contaminated with water from the first
compartment, and therefore the dishes are not rinsed of soap, but now
are being rebathed in lettuce, catsup, and oily residue, or whatever.
The sanization compartment may never have received santizer out of
lazyness, or it will have dissipated, and is no longer effective. The
dishes are probably dipped in to the soup, the dirty rinse water, and
dipped in to the sanitization compartment without the effectiveness of
time, or effective level of sanitizer, and the food container is most
likely refilled with new food while the container is still wet, and
then the food product is placed on your food.

Hmmm! Food for thought.

I asked him if he prefers paper towels, or air dryers. He says that
he has heard that "germ contaminated air" is blown all over the place,
and it will get all over your clothes.

OK! I have heard of that!

He says that paper towels have chopped up rats in them, and why would
you dry your hands with rat pieces, and eat food?
Wow! I say! Damn if you do, and Damn if do not dry your hands!

He says that if they have a paper towel dispenser then he is clothes
are still "contaminated".

Stop! What? Explain please!

He says that the stalls doors are too small, and that his clothes get
rubbed up by the door, or the stall wall. He fears pulling down his
pants because they may come in contact with the toilet, or the floor.
He freaks watching people put down attache cases, ipods, or cell
phones on the floor. He knows that these are going to be placed on
the counter while these people order food!! He says that you are now
going to come in contact with the bathroom floor without the aid of
any hand washing what so ever! He says go ahead lick the counter
where the cash register is! You might be sucking a baby's diaper
where a mom set the child while making an order! Is it not a common
joke that babys always have full diapers?

If the air is so dirty that you cannot use a hand dryer then you are
doomed any ways. If you open the door are you not swirling around the
same air, and breathing it in, and getting it all over your clothes?
The same happens when you are walking out, and someone is walking in,
and you pass each other creating a breeze!

He wants to know what is actually in the tray liner with the cute
advertisments, and promos. Is it really sanitary? Should you be
eating those frys from the paper liner on your tray?

How is that tray being washed? It is probably just being wiped off by
a dirty towel between customers. Maybe if you are lucky it will be
washed. Oh! Then again it just might be stuffed in to a dirty sink,
stuck in dirty rinse water, and in to a sink with no sanitizer, and
the tray liner gets wet while being stack between the trays. Wait!
If they did not wash it, then did the tray actually come in contact
with the top of a trash can, and the crew only wiped the top of the
tray, and stacked it on top of another tray? Is the tray liner
contaminated from the dirty bottom of the other tray?

The employee that is wiping the trays, and placing tray liners on them
suffering from a cold? They cannot afford to lose a days worth of
work, and the boss probably threatened them to show up, or do not show
up at all.

Hey! I think they just wiped their nose on their shirt sleeve! I bet
they are going to sneeze any moment all over those nicely stacked
trays!

OK! I have had enough! I do not care about paper towels verses hand
dryers anymore. I am going to go, and barf now!

[TSCM/SO Group]

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[Its from Onion]

Wonder if knows that you can get sic from being too clean?   

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From: scorpion

To: TSCM-L Professionals List

Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:08 AM

Subject: [TSCM-L] {4401} Re: dryers

[James M. Atkinson]

Actually you can.

If a person aggressively isolates themselves from anything that could infect them or go crazy staying away from germs their immune system does not develop the responses that you would expect from common day to day pathogens.

Then when a nasty bug of some sort does get into their body it kills them because they have no immunity to anything of any significance.

Sometimes it is good to eat some dirt, cheese, stale bread, etc.

Now, in regards to the hand dryers in the loo... most (but not all) of them have a very large, and very heavy duty heating element that glows cherry red and while it will not sterilize everything the heating element itself will destroy most viruses and bacteria. But then of course the air that passes though the hand dryer is actually more sanity then the air that a person in breathing because the nose, mouth, and trachea lack a heating element such as this. No, the fear of pathogens lurking in the had dryer of the mens room is a lot of fantasy.

Wash your hands (with soap thank you), then dry with either a paper towel or blown air dryer, and use a paper towel to open the door (or do like most guys do and hook it open with th pinkie finger of your non-dominant hand). Then when you are clear of the bathroom fish that little container of Purell out of the dominant side pocket of your pants, shirt some into your non-dominant hand, put the Purell away and rub both hands together for 10-15 seconds. If you feel do moves you can then put a good quality moisturizer on your hands.

You someone of really a germophobe then they can just wear latex gloves to the toilet and look like a fool, although in a few cities someone might think they were looking for love.

-jma

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