Sale Return
Nicolas Évrard
We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
shipment and a return shipment.
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Nicolas Évrard
B2CK SPRL
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4000 Liège
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Cédric Krier
> Hello,
>
> We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
>
> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
>
> Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> shipment and a return shipment.
When the invoice method will be "on shipment", I think the sale must
*always* make an invoice when the shipment is sent and a credit note
when the "return shipment" is received.
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Cédric Krier
B2CK SPRL
Rue de Rotterdam, 4
4000 Liège
Belgium
Tel: +32 472 54 46 59
Email/Jabber: cedric...@b2ck.com
Website: http://www.b2ck.com/
Albert Cervera i Areny
A Dimecres, 15 de febrer de 2012 16:08:23, Nicolas �vrard va escriure:
> Hello,
>
> We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
>
> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
>
> Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> shipment and a return shipment.
Sharoon Thomas
On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Nicolas Évrard wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
>
> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
>
> Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> shipment and a return shipment.
>
Great Feature, looking forward to it.
Thanks,
Sharoon Thomas
http://openlabs.co.in
Albert Cervera i Areny
A Dimecres, 15 de febrer de 2012 16:33:40, C�dric Krier va escriure:
> On 15/02/12 16:08 +0100, Nicolas �vrard wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> > This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
> >
> > When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> > generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
> >
> > Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> > lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> > invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> > shipment and a return shipment.
>
> When the invoice method will be "on shipment", I think the sale must
> *always* make an invoice when the shipment is sent and a credit note
> when the "return shipment" is received.
I disagree. Although in our experience this is the most usual behaviour I think we should be able to work both ways: create a single document or create two of them.
BTW, We should eventually implement the same for purchases, I think.
Cédric Krier
> A Dimecres, 15 de febrer de 2012 16:33:40, Cédric Krier va escriure:
> > On 15/02/12 16:08 +0100, Nicolas Évrard wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> > > This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
> > >
> > > When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> > > generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
> > >
> > > Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> > > lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> > > invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> > > shipment and a return shipment.
> >
> > When the invoice method will be "on shipment", I think the sale must
> > *always* make an invoice when the shipment is sent and a credit note
> > when the "return shipment" is received.
>
> I disagree. Although in our experience this is the most usual behaviour I
> think we should be able to work both ways: create a single document or create
> two of them.
How can you make differently? The both shipment will always be validated
at different moment.
Dr. Axel Braun
Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2012 schrieb Nicolas Évrard:
> We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
>
> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
..with optional goods reciept?
> Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> shipment and a return shipment.
Not a good idea, I would keep both transactions separate: Return should be a
sales order type, not a sales line item type.
My 2c
Axel
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Cédric Krier
> > Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> > lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> > invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> > shipment and a return shipment.
>
> Not a good idea, I would keep both transactions separate: Return should be a
> sales order type, not a sales line item type.
I have often hear this kind of request. Users don't want to
switch/encode many documents for the same customer transaction.
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B2CK SPRL
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4000 Liège
Belgium
Tel: +32 472 54 46 59
Nicolas Évrard
>> We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
>> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
>>
>> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
>> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
>
>..with optional goods reciept?
I don't understand.
>> Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
>> lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
>> invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
>> shipment and a return shipment.
>
>Not a good idea, I would keep both transactions separate: Return should be a
>sales order type, not a sales line item type.
The idea would be to use negative quantities to specify that the line
is a return/sale (according to the type of the sale). I admit that
find it ugly too but people might want it.
Dr. Axel Braun
> > > Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> > > lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> > > invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> > > shipment and a return shipment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Not a good idea, I would keep both transactions separate: Return should
> > be a sales order type, not a sales line item type.
>
> I have often hear this kind of request. Users don't want to
> switch/encode many documents for the same customer transaction.
And it is not good practice: You may want to create a return with reference to
a sales order. If you have both transactions in the same document you may mix
up things.
Cédric Krier
> Am Mittwoch, 15. Februar 2012 schrieb Cédric Krier:
> > > > Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> > > > lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> > > > invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> > > > shipment and a return shipment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Not a good idea, I would keep both transactions separate: Return should
> > > be a sales order type, not a sales line item type.
> >
> > I have often hear this kind of request. Users don't want to
> > switch/encode many documents for the same customer transaction.
>
> And it is not good practice: You may want to create a return with reference to
> a sales order. If you have both transactions in the same document you may mix
> up things.
You will not mix up things because you will have the lines > 0 and the
lines < 0.
Dr. Axel Braun
> >> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
> >>
> >> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> >> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
> >
> >..with optional goods reciept?
>
> I don't understand.
You have to have a goods receipt for the returned good in order to release the
credit note. Not just the returns order.
Dominique Chabord
Le 15/02/2012 16:08, Nicolas �vrard a �crit :
> Hello,
>
> We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
At first this sounds odd to me.
>
> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
This makes more sens to me. There are indeed two independent features here.
Why would they be mixed in a single module ?
shipment-to-invoice and return-to-credit conversion would be nice
without this module
>
> Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> shipment and a return shipment.
Is it consistent ? The customer can return something that was shipped to
him, not necessarily something he bought.
>
my 2c
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Cédric Krier
>
> We are going to add a return feature to the sale module.
> This feature will make possible to create sale of a new type "Return".
>
> When adding lines to a sale of type Return the sale object will
> generate a new return shipment and then a credit note.
>
> Eventually someone can mix a sale with both sale lines and return
> lines. In that case the system will create either a credit note or an
> invoice (according to the sign of the total) and will create both a
> shipment and a return shipment.
By the way, there was already a feature request on
https://bugs.tryton.org/issue1795
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Cédric Krier
B2CK SPRL
Rue de Rotterdam, 4
4000 Liège
Belgium
Tel: +32 472 54 46 59