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20 questions for ... transgender author Kate Bornstein

By Karen Zarker, PopMatters.com

First Posted: May 16, 2012 - 4:04 am
Last Updated: May 16, 2012 - 4:04 am


“I was a Scientologist for 12 years, which is a lot more embarrassing
than saying Hi, I’m a transsexual SM dyke living with borderline
personality disorder,” Kate Bornstein tells PopMatters on the release
of her memoir, “A Queer and Pleasant Danger.” Embodying not just
gender — but the range of gender — is just a fraction of Bornstein’s
complex, complete, utterly compelling persona; she is also the
embodiment of a mind steeped in pop culture, past and present.

1. The latest book or movie that made you cry?

OK — does RuPaul’s “Drag Race” count as a book or a movie? Of course
it does. Well, I cried when Latrice Royale had to sashay away — she is
a queen of color, size, and age. She has amazing grace, and she
lip-synchs like an earth angel. That was the latest show that made me
cry.

I cried when Dream died in Neil Gaiman’s “The Sandman” series.
Actually, it wasn’t because Dream died — it was more because it made
his sister, Death, cry.

2. The fictional character most like you?

Most of the time, I feel like Candide. (Candide, ou l’Optimisme,
Voltaire, 1759.) I can’t count the number of times I’ve set out in my
life with a smile on my face and a song in my heart, knowing that I
live in the best of all possible worlds — only to get hit with a pie
in the face, or a piano falls on my head while I’m walking down the
sidewalk, or maybe it’s an anvil, or maybe it’s a bullet in my gut.
Candide walks through his life and discovers that every institution he
was taught to believe in ends up screw him — not literarily.

3. The greatest album, ever?

“Sergeant Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.”

“Sergeant Pepper” was the first time I’d experienced art that
flipped-off what would later be called the straight, white, male
patriarchy and its evils in Vietnam. It was hopeful music. It was
comforting. It was cornball.

4. “Star Trek” or “Star Wars”?

“Star Trek.” But you need to ask which “Star Trek, and mine was “The
Next Generation.” I always identified with Ensign Ro Laren — a
complete traitor. Or Ishara Yar, Tasha’s sister. She’s only on for one
episode, and she betrays Data, coming as close as anyone did to
breaking the part of his neural net that was his heart. And both “Star
Trek” and “Star Wars” are in the past.

5. Your ideal brain food?

Check out the field of neurogenesis, where scientists have discovered
that when we learn something new, we actually grow new brain cells and
we can heal the scars of the brain cells we’ve screwed up with drugs
and depression and heartbreak and even real physical trauma.

Well, I have messed up my brain so badly over the course of my life
that I need to learn something new every day. That’s what I live on,
that’s sort of what I live for. Every new thing I learn is another
piece in the puzzle that is the Meta of life itself. My life’s path
has been a road called gender, and each time I’ve learned something
new about gender, my heart feels lighter and that’s told me I’m
getting closer to the truth of the phenomenon.

6. You’re proud of this accomplishment, but why?

I wrote a book called “Hello, Cruel World: 101 Alternatives to Suicide
for Teens, Freaks and other Outlaws,” from Seven Stories Press. I get
letters every day, or tweets or comments, or text messages, or any
other of the ways people get messages to me these days — thank you for
saving my life. That’s a hard thing to own when you hear it, but I
feel proud when I do own it, so that has to be it.

7. You want to be remembered for ...?

I’d like my daughter and grandchildren to one day get out of
Scientology long enough to read my memoir, “A Queer and Pleasant
Danger,” and remember me with a smile. I know it’d be a sad smile, and
I’m sorry for that.

Right, so I’d like to be remembered by my daughter, my grandchildren,
and all the freaky geeky kids and grownups who read my books and it
helps them live another day. I’d like them all to remember me as
having been a good auntie, or a good teacher — a Hogwarts professor
type, perhaps Sybill Trelawney. She taught divination but could never
divine very much herself, except every now and then when it was
important.

That’s what I hope all my books do for all my kids — shine a light on
a future bright enough that they don’t want to kill themselves.

8. Of those who’ve come before, the most inspirational are?

Right then, in no particular order: Lao-Tse, Abbot & Costello, Doris
Fish, Mark Twain, Candy Darling, International Chrysis, Fredric Brown,
The Beatles (together and separately), P.T. Barnum, Kurt Vonnegut Jr.,
Holly Hughes, Laurel & Hardy, Norman Rockwell, Suzanne J. Kessler,
Wendy McKenna, Laurie Anderson, Robert Altman, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle,
Hermann Hesse, Dorothy Parker, Diane Arbus, Andy Warhol, Joss Whedon,
Steve Jobs, Sojourner Truth, William S. Burroughs, Frank Zappa,
Lucille Ball, Martin Scorsese, Carol Burnett, Ferron, Valerie Solanas,
Heather Lewis, Steve Allen, Audrey Hepburn, Christopher Isherwood,
Aphra Behn, Bob Fosse, Rachel Pollack, Truman Capote, Salvador Dali,
the Dalai Lama, Caroline Cossey, Shirley MacLaine, Hugh Hefner and
James Joyce. I’d like them all to be proud of me.

9. The creative masterpiece you wish bore your signature?

“All That Jazz,” the film by Bob Fosse. Oh god, I want to make a
musical out of my crazy life. I wrote a play called “Strangers in
Paradox” about a pair of lesbians who are serial killers. It’s 100
percent autobiographical and true. My dream is to turn it into a
musical and a film.

10. Your hidden talents ...?

I’m a scary good Tarot card reader. It’s my Professor Trelawney side.
I see things that can happen, but not always. I’ve been working on
designing my own deck for years. I also know how to stop myself when I
get the hiccups — every time.

11. The best piece of advice you actually followed?

“The way you do anything is the way you do everything.” Zen master,
Cheri Huber, came up with that koan. I’ve been working on it for over
20 years, now. Essentially, it means that everything I do is practice
for everything else I’m going to do. So, if I do something mindfully —
anything at all — I’ll be better at doing something else mindfully in
the future.

Knowing and using this koan helped me use all across my life the
principles I learned in navigating gender — breaking binaries,
disobeying hierarchies, staying alive, telling fun stories. If
fractals were a life path, this koan would be the roadmap.

12. The best thing you ever bought, stole, or borrowed?

The very best thing is the idea that we are immortal spiritual beings,
and as such we have no gender. I got that from L. Ron Hubbard, the
founder of Scientology. I was a Scientologist for 12 years, which is a
lot more embarrassing than saying Hi, I’m a transsexual SM dyke living
with borderline personality disorder. But for all the nuttiness of
Scientology’s beliefs, this one stuck with me. They told me I’m not my
body, I’m not my mind. They said I don’t have a soul, I am a soul.

Their word for soul is thetan — an immortal spiritual being of
unlimited powers. Well, I’m not so sure about the unlimited powers
part but I’m going to hang in there with immortality. It fits nicely
with a lot of Eastern and pagan spiritual paths.

When I first got into Scientology, I asked them if there were male
thetans and female thetans. They laughed merrily and told me that no,
thetans have no gender. Gender is for bodies.

Now, you’d think that with a philosophy based on that strong of an
idea, that homophobia and transphobia would be non-existent. Sadly,
both are rampant in Scientology and it makes no sense.

So yeah, I borrowed the idea that none of us have a gender, and I’m
very happy to give it back to Scientology any day they’d like to
accept it from me.

13. You feel best in Armani or Levis or ...?

A mix of Free People anything, and Diesel sweats. I love being girly
girl hippie chick, but there’s always this bad girl side of me that
has to come out at the same time. And Fluevogs — they make any outfit
work.

14. Your dinner guest at the Ritz would be?

Of everybody, it’d have to be Chuang Tzu. He was the world’s first
slapstick Taoist master, one of the first great fools in the world
whose work got written down. I’d like to trade jokes.

15. Time travel: where, when and why?

I’d like to be a fly on the wall in the room where Henry Miller and
Anais Nin were. I’d like to follow them both to wherever they went to
write. Or before they were going to meet, and while they were longing
for each other.

16. Stress management: hit man, spa vacation or Prozac?

Dialectic Behavioral Therapy (DBT). I live with Borderline Personality
Disorder, and it’s the only damned thing that helps me regulate my
emotions. Like this piece I’m writing right now — it’s two days past
deadline. Before DBT, I’d be panicking and I wouldn’t be able to write
it. But hey, voila!

17. Essential to life: coffee, vodka, cigarettes, chocolate, or …?

Nicotine, caffeine and THC. I drink Diet Pepsi, not alcohol, and I do
enjoy my e-cigarettes and other smokes.

18. Environ of choice: city or country, and where on the map?

Portlandia. It’s got such a high percentage of freaky, geeky people.
I’ve always felt at home there whenever I teach or perform there. I’ve
always felt most at home most anywhere in the Pacific Northwest, and I
like to think I’d move there in a flash but my girlfriend would never
go for it — she’s too much of a sun bunny.

19. What do you want to say to the leader of your country?

I’ve got nothing to say to President Obama. I have a lot of questions
I’d like to ask him, and I’d like him to seriously consider.

I’d like to talk with him about church and state and how very
collapsed they’ve become in my country to the point where so many of
our laws are little more than the enforcing of some fundamentalist
Judeo-Christian system of morality.

I like that he calls himself a mutt. I’m a mutt of gender. I’d like
him to see the connection. And once that’s been made, I’d ask him to
do whatever it takes to make this country safe for mutts of all kinds.

20. Last but certainly not least, what are you working on, now?

Becoming a star. Thanks for the leg up.

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