since 0.11 has been branched trunk is now 0.12-dev material. Given the fundamental nature of a framework like i18n into any given software project I want to merge this in as soon as possible. This will make sure that markup and extraction can be dealt with immediately. Also more and more users have been using the sandbox to deploy Trac in their native language.
> since 0.11 has been branched trunk is now 0.12-dev material. > Given the fundamental nature of a framework like i18n into any given > software project I want to merge this in as soon as possible. This will make > sure that markup and extraction can be dealt with immediately. Also more and > more users have been using the sandbox to deploy Trac in their native > language.
great! us team will highest focus this task, but these day is "Labor Day" can we checkin patch for Chinese translation at 2008-05-04 ?
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>great! us team will highest focus this task, >but these day is "Labor Day" >can we checkin patch for Chinese translation at 2008-05-04 ?
What patch are you talking about? I added Richard Liao's translation strings yesterday and the on-the-fly language preference panel is in place too.
Now tracking a, perhaps, bug.
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> -On [20080501 03:25], Zoom.Quiet (zoom.qu...@gmail.com) wrote: > >great! us team will highest focus this task, > >but these day is "Labor Day" > >can we checkin patch for Chinese translation at 2008-05-04 ?
> What patch are you talking about?
sandbox/i18n @ r6930 ,of course
> I added Richard Liao's translation strings yesterday and the on-the-fly
Yes, Liao is my team guy, but some Chinese words is not be checked, not be in better yet;
> language preference panel is in place too.
and noitced this reversion not include wiki page's i18N, how to include different language default wiki page content into trac?
> Now tracking a, perhaps, bug.
sure, just some key words must be fixed in right word!
can Trac-dev wait 4 days for Chinese reversion?
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>and noitced this reversion not include wiki page's i18N, >how to include different language default wiki page content into trac?
As I said before, the wiki pages will *not* be localized at this point in time because it depends on more than just the localization framework. Part of it, or perhaps all, might be realized with Odd Simon's newhelp branch. Ticket #1513 as well as http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Proposals/NewHelp.
>can Trac-dev wait 4 days for Chinese reversion?
There is no need to wait for that, trunk is the main development. Merging the branch sandbox/i18n to trunk merely means that the main Trac development will be localized. It does not mean that changes cannot be made.
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> >and noitced this reversion not include wiki page's i18N, > >how to include different language default wiki page content into trac?
> As I said before, the wiki pages will *not* be localized at this point in > time because it depends on more than just the localization framework. Part > of it, or perhaps all, might be realized with Odd Simon's newhelp branch. > Ticket #1513 as well as > http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Proposals/NewHelp.
> >can Trac-dev wait 4 days for Chinese reversion?
> There is no need to wait for that, trunk is the main development. Merging > the branch sandbox/i18n to trunk merely means that the main Trac development > will be localized. It does not mean that changes cannot be made.
all clean! thanx for all!
patch will mail u and attachment ticket also ;)
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The ticket is ok. Just make sure you leave a message with it and not just attach. It seems merely adding an attachment doesn't trigger notification.
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> since 0.11 has been branched trunk is now 0.12-dev material. > Given the fundamental nature of a framework like i18n into any given > software project I want to merge this in as soon as possible. This will make > sure that markup and extraction can be dealt with immediately. Also more and > more users have been using the sandbox to deploy Trac in their native > language.
On Apr 30, 9:48 pm, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmo...@in-
nomine.org> wrote:
> People,
> since 0.11 has been branched trunk is now 0.12-dev material.
> Given the fundamental nature of a framework like i18n into any given
> software project I want to merge this in as soon as possible.
> since 0.11 has been branched trunk is now 0.12-dev material. > Given the fundamental nature of a framework like i18n into any given > software project I want to merge this in as soon as possible. This will make > sure that markup and extraction can be dealt with immediately. Also more and > more users have been using the sandbox to deploy Trac in their native > language.
Trac should remain usable without Babel, as 0.11 is.
I've looked at the code, and this seems perfectly doable, i.e. keep no-ops when Babel is not installed, and use Babel stuff when it's there. I'll look into making a patch for this later today.
I think an update to trunk shouldn't force users to have to download Babel, do whatever extra installation step is needed to get it running, if they're not interested in the translations.
-On [20080502 10:11], Christian Boos (cb...@neuf.fr) wrote:
>Trac should remain usable without Babel, as 0.11 is.
>I've looked at the code, and this seems perfectly doable, i.e. keep >no-ops when Babel is not installed, and use Babel stuff when it's there.
I got time now, lets see if I can get that done.
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-On [20080502 10:11], Christian Boos (cb...@neuf.fr) wrote:
>I've looked at the code, and this seems perfectly doable, i.e. keep >no-ops when Babel is not installed, and use Babel stuff when it's there. >I'll look into making a patch for this later today.
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> -On [20080502 10:11], Christian Boos (cb...@neuf.fr) wrote:
>> I've looked at the code, and this seems perfectly doable, i.e. keep >> no-ops when Babel is not installed, and use Babel stuff when it's there. >> I'll look into making a patch for this later today.
Ok, based on your initial patch, I managed to get a version that worked flawlessly with and without Babel installed. So I went ahead and committed it (http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/6983).
It was also a no brainer to get Trac localized in french, so I was very favorably impressed, congratulations to the i18n team! So count a +1 for the merge from me as well.
The i18n branch makes it even easier for to detect and fix the last few unicode related corner cases (r6984).
Christian Boos wrote: > ... > So count a +1 for the merge from me as well.
Oh, I just forgot to mention that when Babel is present, threading.local() will be used, and that of course won't work on Python 2.3. It seems that there are implementations of ThreadLocal that we could grab for backward compatibility (e.g. http://code.djangoproject.com/attachment/ticket/463/mysql_magic-remov...), but nevertheless, I think it's about time to ditch Python 2.3 support (in 0.12dev not for 0.11 naturally). What do you think?
Christian Boos wrote: > but nevertheless, I think it's about time to ditch Python 2.3 support > (in 0.12dev not for 0.11 naturally). What do you think?
-On [20080502 19:07], Christian Boos (cb...@neuf.fr) wrote:
>I think it's about time to ditch Python 2.3 support (in 0.12dev not for >0.11 naturally). What do you think?
+1
Genshi 0.5 is going to be the last 2.3 supporting version of Genshi anyway the last time Alec, Armin, Christopher and me were talking about things.
A related question: 0.12 is also the version where we remove ClearSilver support, right?
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> I'm trying to make a fully translated trac 0.12 based on the trunk(r7002).
> What I have done: > 1. Fully translated the messages.po file. > 2. Fully translated the default wiki pages into our local language: zh_CN. > (I have noticed new help branch in sandbox, but currently, I have to > translate these wiki pages.)
> The problem is: the UI elements are not fully i18n-ed. > 1. Some string is not i18n-ed in py files. > e.g. > trac/ticket/web_ui.py: line 308:309 > return tag('Ticket ', tag.em('#', ticket.id, title=title), > ' (', shorten_line(summary), ') ', verb) > those should be: > return tag(_('Ticket '), tag.em('#', ticket.id, title=title), > ' (', shorten_line(summary), ') ', _(verb)) > How do I submit a patch?
> 2. Some strings never appear not in genshi template or py files: > e.g. > trac/ticket/template/ticket.html: line 150 > <py:if test="field">${field.label or field.name}:</py:if>
> and in trac/ticket/web_ui.py: line 552:560 > the string of ticket.fields['label'] or ticket.fields['edit_label'] > or ticket.fields['name'] is not i18n-ed.
> Those strings in ticket fields never appears in either py file or in > genshi template files. > Which make those string can not be gathered into pot file, thus can > not be i18n-ed. > e.g. priority, severitiy, status, and so on.
> My suggestion is to maintain a tracterms.py file, including all > frequently used trac terms, to enable we i18n variables in genshi > template files as below: > <py:if test="field">${_(field.label) or > _(field.name)}:</py:if>
> 3. Since some template strings in pot file can't be displayed > correctly by current Genshi ticket #129. > And I want to make all template work for now. Can we make all template > strings i18n-ed by hand? > e.g. > trac/ticket/template/ticket.html: line 139 > <th id="h_reporter">Reported by:</th> > <th id="h_reporter">${_('Reported by:')}</th>
> If we agree with it, I can make a patch of all template files.
> Regards,
> On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven > <asmo...@in-nomine.org> wrote:
>> The sandbox/i18n branch is now merged to trunk.
>> Thank you for flying International Airlines.
>> -- >> Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(-at-)in-nomine.org> / asmodai >> イェルーン ラウフロック ヴァン デル ウェルヴェン >> http://www.in-nomine.org/ | http://www.rangaku.org/ | GPG: 2EAC625B >> Even when I do things for the sake of others, no sense of amazement or >> conceit arises. It is just like feeding myself: I hope for nothing in return...
