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Subject: MI5 offers to spy for private firms; Blacklisting is a criminal offence
but rife in the UK as Blacklisted building workers hope for day in court after
ruling
Yes, it is.
Not sure if you realise Moeen but back in the 1980s and 1990s we had exposure of
two previous illegal blacklists - one The Economic League which was linked to
the far right and its successor which had several of the same directors called
CapRim. I seem to remember the name was an amalgum of two figures in the so
called intelligence services - one of whom was Stella Rimmington - which were
written about and exposed as incompetant and grasping several times by Peter
Wright in his book Spycatcher - and were greatly influenced by the Rothschild
family - Victor specifically - who Write alleges selected the heads of the two
services.
The subject was also written about in a book by the Guardian's security
correspondant Richard Norton-Taylor. Some believe he has since become a less
independent minded journalist.
Authors are Richard Norton-Taylor & Mark Hollingsworth
Title is Blacklist: Inside Story of Political Vetting
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Tony
At 07:06 21/03/2012, you wrote:
This is a very important issue and needs further exposure as many people have
probably been affected especially activists.
On 20/03/2012 21:45, Tony Gosling wrote:
MI5 offers to spy for private firms - (see below)
Post subject: Blacklisting is criminal offence but rife in the UK
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=21212
Blacklisted building workers hope for day in court after ruling
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/mar/03/blacklisted-building-w...
t-hopes
The Consulting Association, a shadowy organisation that compiled a list of
'troublemakers' — with the help of the security services — for Britain's biggest
building companies was closed four years ago. Only now can its 3,200 victims go
to court and hope to win
Daniel Boffey - guardian.co.uk, Saturday 3 March 2012 21.02 GMT
At first there was an audible gasp, then there were cheers. It was the moment 30
friends and family members in the public gallery of the central London
employment tribunal heard official recognition that information used by
corporate giants in the construction industry to blacklist workers over three
decades had been supplied by members of the state's security apparatus.
It may come too late for many of the families devastated by the blacklisting of
some 3,200 construction workers deemed too leftwing and troublesome for work on
building sites. Indeed the following day, Dave Smith, the 46-year-old engineer
whose tribunal heard the admission, went on to lose his claim for compensation
from one of the firms involved in the blacklisting. As an agency worker, the
tribunal decided, he didn't have the right to claim compensation for loss of
income, although there was an admission from construction giant Carillion that
two of its subsidiaries had "penalised" Smith for being a trade unionist.
But the testimony of David Clancy, investigations manager at the Information
Commissioner's Office (ICO), giving evidence in the court, was clear. Clancy
told the tribunal he believed that some of the information in the files used to
blacklist workers "could only be supplied by the police or the security
services".
It was a satisfying moment. Smith is one of a group of 100 workers who are about
to embark on a class action against some 39 companies which they claim breached
their rights when they blacklisted them. These admissions could be crucial when
Hugh Tomlinson QC takes up the case in the high court.
But it was also a disturbing moment for Smith and his friends in the Blacklist
Support Group. "If managers on a building site don't like the fact that I am
safety rep because it affects their profit and their deadlines, then I
understand why they might do it. I disagree with it, I think it is wrong, but I
can understand," Smith told the Observer.
"But for the police to be involved is appalling. This is the state linking up
with big business basically, and any decent person in a civilised society would
think it is appalling.
"This is about human rights. I have not done anything illegal, I am a member of
a trade union. I have worked in an attempt to improve health and safety on
building sites and yet it appears my employers, the state, security services and
the police have been conspiring against me."
It is just the latest twist in a story that begs to be turned into a movie. Four
years ago Steve Acheson, a skilled worker, could not get any work. He couldn't
understand it, but then heard about a mysterious blacklist preventing certain
people, union representatives in the main, from getting jobs.
It was a rumour that had lingered around British building sites for some time.
Many people, including Dave Smith, thought and said for many years that it was a
myth. But when Acheson took the latest firm to reject him to an industrial
tribunal, he found support from a whistleblower, Alan Wainwright, a former
manager in the construction industry, who testified that blacklisting did go on.
In written evidence, Wainwright said: "I believe that certain UK construction
companies and their mechanical and electrical subsidiaries operate a blacklist
procedure to ensure certain electrical operatives do not gain employment on
their projects." The tribunal found for Acheson and two colleagues, and they
were awarded compensation.
Reading a report of the development in the Guardian the next day was a member of
staff of the Information Commissioner's Office. Within a year, the blacklist was
no more. The ICO raided a first-floor office in the Worcestershire town of
Droitwich. Officials took away the entire contents of a database suspected to
contain the blacklist, as well as invoices from companies in the construction
industry that were paying Ian Kerr, the 66-year-old keeper of the data.
There they found a database of some 3,200 names, as well as invoices showing
that 44 construction firms, including some of the UK's biggest, had used the
services of a clandestine organisation called the Consulting Association. The
list of subscribers was packed with household names, including Sir Robert
McAlpine, Balfour Beatty, Costain and Skanska Construction, although there have
been no findings against them.
The information held on the individuals was kept in card files and ranged from
personal descriptions of the people blacklisted, their families and
relationships. Then there were undercover observations of union meetings,
left-wing newspaper cuttings and, of course, a smattering of pieces of
intelligence that are now believed to have been supplied from either police or
MI5 records.
But Kerr was fined only £5,000 and while the Consulting Association was closed,
only 14 of Kerr's clients were given enforcement notices, demanding they comply
with the law. In the three years since the blacklist was first revealed, only
three people are understood to have successfully won a claim at a full
employment tribunal.
The vast majority of those who have attempted to gain redress through the courts
have failed. According to campaigners, one reason why legal victories have been
so rare is that in some cases lawyers took too long to file court papers and the
actions were ruled out of time. Also, some claims were made citing a breach of
employment laws that did not exist at the time. As the failed cases mounted up,
lawyers began to see fewer reasons for advising clients to go forward.
Even those that did make it to a full hearing found employment laws didn't offer
complete protection. Electrician Steve Kelly was one of the few to have won
compensation, but says it is scant reward. "I got £2,400 compensation for 10
years of blacklisting," he said. "I tried to get on the Olympic project and was
told 'no way, he's the biggest troublemaker in London'."
Indeed only 600 of the 3,200 names on the blacklist have asked the ICO for a
copy of their files. The ICO says it has been unable to pursue the police
officers or security services over the confidential information that found its
way into Kerr's database. Certainly, neither the card files nor Kerr disclosed
who was providing the Consulting Association with the intelligence. "He had very
little to say on the matter," Clancy admitted.
But all this could now change. The events in the central London employment
tribunal on 17 January could be the key for the blacklist victims to get their
justice. "My lawyers were thrilled by Carillion's admission about blacklisting,
so we shall have to wait and see what happens next," Smith said. It seems that
he and his 30 friends from the central London employment tribunal have got their
eye on a bigger setting now. "It's the high court next," Smith said. He can't
wait to hear the cheers.
Additional reporting: Phil Chamberlain
THE VICTIM
Signal technician Steve Hedley, from East Ham, is one of those whose name was in
the Consulting Association's files. In 2004, Hedley, 43, was working on the
Channel Tunnel Rail Link when his employer accused him of theft. The claim was
subsequently retracted, but he was told there was no more work on site. A few
weeks later he was taken on by a different company working on the project, then
sacked within days without explanation. It was the start of four years without
permanent employment. In what is thought to be police-sourced intelligence, he
was named in the files as having been "apprehended/observed on way to
demonstrate against BNP laying wreath at Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday". The
last entry in his 18-page file, which comprised mainly cuttings from the Morning
Star and other leftwing publications, states that he had been elected as an RMT
union organiser. Other notes describe his disapproval of new Labour, among other
things.
Hedley said: "We were at an anti-fascist demonstration at the Cenotaph and that
somehow finds a way into the file. It is incredible. What has that got to do
with my employment record?
"People were emailing me saying come along Monday and then I would get a phone
call on the Sunday saying, 'That job has gone.' It was devastating. It smacks of
a sort of police state, almost with the police colluding with the employers to
blacklist the trade unionists. Some of the people on that blacklist are just
ordinary health and safety reps. You just wonder how far this goes."
Independent - 7th September 2001 wrote:
MI5 offers to spy for private firms
Followed by this day's Independent lead article
By Steve Boggan 07 September 2001
Leading article: Private spy
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=92810
MI5 has told some of Britain's biggest companies that it may be prepared to
provide intelligence on their business partners and rivals abroad.
For the first time, the security service this week openly invited
representatives from industry and finance to its headquarters in Millbank,
London, for a seminar called Secret Work in an Open Society.
The Independent has learnt that in between coffee and a buffet lunch, those
attending were given a talk by Sir Stephen Lander, MI5's director general, on
"What is the security service for?", during which he said companies ought to ask
for help more often.
Since the end of the Cold War, MI5 has been trying to evolve into a service more
interested in catching criminals and terrorists than foreign spies. This week's
move will be seen as another attempt to re-invent itself as a more user-friendly
service.
Among the companies invited to attend were BT, Rolls-Royce, HSBC, Allied Domecq,
Consignia, BP, Ernst & Young, Cadbury Schweppes and BAE Systems. Of the 64
executives invited, a high proportion were in market development, security or
risk-assessment.
"Sir Stephen said he was sure that MI5 could help business more if only it were
asked," said one delegate. "In situations where we are working abroad, he said
MI5 might have information on companies or individuals it could help us with if
it did not involve breaching legislation on data protection or human rights.
"He made the point that, increasingly, organised crime, drugs and money
laundering are our common enemy. When getting into deals abroad - particularly
Eastern Europe at the moment - you can get into bed with the wrong people if you
don't have good risk- assessment information on them. Basically, he was anxious
that MI5 shouldn't be thought of solely as a domestic organisation ... In
return, he said there might be occasions when we can pass information back."
The list of delegates gives an insight into the sort of executive MI5 is trying
to reach: Nigel Carpenter, BP's deputy head of group security in the eastern
hemisphere; Mike McGinty, security director at BAE Systems; Mike Harris,
information security manager for Consignia; Michael Weller, BT's head of
government security; and John Smith, head of security for the Prudential
Corporation.
The seminar was organised in conjunction with the Whitehall and Industry Group,
a body that aims to bridge the gap between business and government. Its patrons
include Lord Haskins, chairman of Northern Foods and the Better Regulation task
force in the Cabinet Office; Sir Andrew Turnbull, permanent secretary to the
Treasury; Sir George Mathewson, chairman of the Royal Bank of Scotland Group;
Sir Richard Wilson, Cabinet Secretary and head of the Home Civil Service; and
Digby Jones, director general of the Confederation of British Industry.
The practice of using the country's intelligence service to benefit companies is
one performed in the United States for a number of years. There is evidence that
it has used a communications eavesdropping system called Echelon to gather
sensitive information on rivals in the European Union that has been passed on to
US business.
There is no suggestion that the British services intend to go that far, but this
is thought to be the first time MI5 has brought in so many senior executives.
Even though they were not explicitly asked to keep the meeting secret, none of
the delegates approached by The Independent yesterday returned calls. In spite
of a number of approaches, MI5 failed to comment.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=92810
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