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Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:08:58 +0300
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Subject: European Zionist Troops' tales of brutality against Palestinians! This has been going on since late 1800s sponsored by the Rothschild Banking Dynasties

"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he
cannot believe it exists". -- J. Edgar Hoover, FBI Director 1924-1972, quoted in The
Elks Magazine (August 1956). "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from
its [corrupt feudal] government." -- Thomas Paine. "Each of you, for himself, by himself
and on his own responsibility, must speak". -- Mark Twain.  "The money powers prey upon
the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity.  It is more
despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than
bureaucracy.  It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light
upon its crimes.  I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the
bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe." -- President
Abraham Lincoln. "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary
act." -- George Orwell.

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Subject: [APFT] Israel shaken by troops' tales of brutality against Palestinians!

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The soldiers described dozens of incidents of extreme violence. One recalled an incident
when a Palestinian was shot for no reason and left on the street. 'We were in a weapons
carrier when this guy, around 25, passed by in the street and, just like that, for no
reason - he didn't throw a stone, did nothing - bang, a bullet in the stomach, he shot
him in the stomach and the guy is dying on the pavement and we keep going, apathetic. No
one gave him a second look,' he said.

The soldiers developed a mentality in which they would use physical violence to deter
Palestinians from abusing them. One described beating women. 'With women I have no
problem. With women, one threw a clog at me and I kicked her here [pointing to the
crotch], I broke everything there. She can't have children. Next time she won't throw
clogs at me. When one of them [a woman] spat at me, I gave her the rifle butt in the
face. She doesn't have what to spit with any more.'

Yishai-Karin found that the soldiers were exposed to violence against Palestinians from
as early as their first weeks of basic training. On one occasion, the soldiers were
escorting some arrested Palestinians. The arrested men were made to sit on the floor of
the bus. They had been taken from their beds and were barely clothed, even though the
temperature was below zero. The new recruits trampled on the Palestinians and then
proceeded to beat them for the whole of the journey. They opened the bus windows and
poured water on the arrested men.

One soldier recalled: 'After two months in Rafah, a [new] commanding officer arrived...
So we do a first patrol with him. It's 6am, Rafah is under curfew, there isn't so much
as a dog in the streets. Only a little boy of four playing in the sand. He is building a
castle in his yard. He [the officer] suddenly starts running and we all run with him. He
was from the combat engineers.

'He grabbed the boy. I am a degenerate if I am not telling you the truth. He broke his
hand here at the wrist, broke his leg here. And started to stomp on his stomach, three
times, and left. We are all there, jaws dropping, looking at him in shock...

'The next day I go out with him on another patrol, and the soldiers are already starting
to do the same thing."

  _____  

According to Rabbi Israel Shahak, who was Professor of Chemistry at the Hebrew
University of Jerusalem and Founder of the League for Human and Civil Rights in Israel,
the cause of the Israeli Defense Forces brutal treatment of the Palestinians is due to
the ugly misinterpretation and misapplication of the teachings of the Talmud. The
treatment is deliberate and is exactly what Israeli soldiers have been trained to do. It
is not because the soldier may be emotional or suffering from a "bad hair day"! He
writes in his book "Jewish History, Jewish Religion":

"A book published by the Central Region Command of the Israeli army, whose area includes
the West Bank, contains the following declaration by the command's chief chaplain: "When
our forces come across civilians during a war or in hot pursuit or in a raid, so long as
there is no certainty that those civilians are incapable of harming our forces, then
according to Halakah [Jewish law] they may and even should be killed." "Under no
circumstances should an Arab be trusted, even if he makes an impression of being
civilized. In war, when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined
by the Halakah to kill even good civilians."

 <http://www.wrmea.com/archives/october01/0110071.html>
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/october01/0110071.html

Teachings like the above are what is being used to train the Israeli Defense Forces
today. We should not be surprised by their actions. The psychologist in the article
tries to attribute the Israeli soldier's behavior to poor or inadequate training. In a
way he is right but the poor immoral and inadequate consideration for the life of
non-Jews training is deliberate... We are dealing with a very evil and treacherous
people who have been educated to be ruthless and treacherous. This is against every
decent moral that we may have but the sooner we realize this about these Jews the better
off we will be.

Israel shaken by troops' tales of brutality against Palestinians

A psychologist blames assaults on civilians in the 1990s on soldiers' bad training,
boredom and poor supervision

Conal Urquhart in Jerusalem
Sunday October 21, 2007
The Observer <http://www.observer.co.uk/>  

A study by an Israeli psychologist into the violent behaviour of the country's soldiers
is provoking bitter controversy and has awakened urgent questions about the way the army
conducts itself in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

Nufar Yishai-Karin, a clinical psychologist at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem,
interviewed 21 Israeli soldiers and heard confessions of frequent brutal assaults
against Palestinians, aggravated by poor training and discipline. In her recently
published report, co-authored by Professor Yoel Elizur, Yishai-Karin details a series of
violent incidents, including the beating of a four-year-old boy by an officer.

The report, although dealing with the experience of soldiers in the 1990s, has triggered
an impassioned debate in Israel, where it was published in an abbreviated form in the
newspaper Haaretz last month. According to Yishai Karin: 'At one point or another of
their service, the majority of the interviewees enjoyed violence. They enjoyed the
violence because it broke the routine and they liked the destruction and the chaos. They
also enjoyed the feeling of power in the violence and the sense of danger.'

In the words of one soldier: 'The truth? When there is chaos, I like it. That's when I
enjoy it. It's like a drug. If I don't go into Rafah, and if there isn't some kind of
riot once in some weeks, I go nuts.'

Another explained: 'The most important thing is that it removes the burden of the law
from you. You feel that you are the law. You are the law. You are the one who decides...
As though from the moment you leave the place that is called Eretz Yisrael [the Land of
Israel] and go through the Erez checkpoint into the Gaza Strip, you are the law. You are
God.'

The soldiers described dozens of incidents of extreme violence. One recalled an incident
when a Palestinian was shot for no reason and left on the street. 'We were in a weapons
carrier when this guy, around 25, passed by in the street and, just like that, for no
reason - he didn't throw a stone, did nothing - bang, a bullet in the stomach, he shot
him in the stomach and the guy is dying on the pavement and we keep going, apathetic. No
one gave him a second look,' he said.

The soldiers developed a mentality in which they would use physical violence to deter
Palestinians from abusing them. One described beating women. 'With women I have no
problem. With women, one threw a clog at me and I kicked her here [pointing to the
crotch], I broke everything there. She can't have children. Next time she won't throw
clogs at me. When one of them [a woman] spat at me, I gave her the rifle butt in the
face. She doesn't have what to spit with any more.'

Yishai-Karin found that the soldiers were exposed to violence against Palestinians from
as early as their first weeks of basic training. On one occasion, the soldiers were
escorting some arrested Palestinians. The arrested men were made to sit on the floor of
the bus. They had been taken from their beds and were barely clothed, even though the
temperature was below zero. The new recruits trampled on the Palestinians and then
proceeded to beat them for the whole of the journey. They opened the bus windows and
poured water on the arrested men.

The disclosure of the report in the Israeli media has occasioned a remarkable response.
In letters responding to the recollections, writers have focused on both the present and
past experience of Israeli soldiers to ask troubling questions that have probed the
legitimacy of the actions of the Israeli Defence Forces.

The study and the reactions to it have marked a sharp change in the way Israelis regard
their period of military service - particularly in the occupied territories - which has
been reflected in the increasing levels of conscientious objection and draft-dodging.

The debate has contrasted sharply with an Israeli army where new recruits are taught
that they are joining 'the most ethical army in the world' - a refrain that is echoed
throughout Israeli society. In its doctrine, published on its website, the Israeli army
emphasises human dignity. 'The Israeli army and its soldiers are obligated to protect
human dignity. Every human being is of value regardless of his or her origin, religion,
nationality, gender, status or position.'

However, the Israeli army, like other armies, has found it difficult to maintain these
values beyond the classroom. The first intifada, which began in 1987, before the wave of
suicide bombings, was markedly different to the violence of the second intifada, and its
main events were popular demonstrations with stone-throwing.

Yishai-Karin, in an interview with Haaretz, described how her research came out of her
own experience as a soldier at an army base in Rafah in the Gaza Strip. She interviewed
18 ordinary soldiers and three officers whom she had served with in Gaza. The soldiers
described how the violence was encouraged by some commanders. One soldier recalled:
'After two months in Rafah, a [new] commanding officer arrived... So we do a first
patrol with him. It's 6am, Rafah is under curfew, there isn't so much as a dog in the
streets. Only a little boy of four playing in the sand. He is building a castle in his
yard. He [the officer] suddenly starts running and we all run with him. He was from the
combat engineers.

'He grabbed the boy. I am a degenerate if I am not telling you the truth. He broke his
hand here at the wrist, broke his leg here. And started to stomp on his stomach, three
times, and left. We are all there, jaws dropping, looking at him in shock...

'The next day I go out with him on another patrol, and the soldiers are already starting
to do the same thing."

Yishai-Karin concluded that the main reason for the soldiers' violence was a lack of
training. She found that the soldiers did not know what was expected of them and
therefore were free to develop their own way of behaviour. The longer a unit was left in
the field, the more violent it became. The Israeli soldiers, she concluded, had a level
of violence which is universal across all nations and cultures. If they are allowed to
operate in difficult circumstances, such as in Gaza and the West Bank, without training
and proper supervision, the violence is bound to come out.

A spokeswoman for the Israeli army said that, if a soldier deviates from the army's
norms, they could be investigated by the military police or face criminal investigation.

She said: 'It should be noted that since the events described in Nufar Yishai-Karin's
research the number of ethical violations by IDF soldiers involving the Palestinian
population has consistently dropped. This trend has continued in the last few years.'

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Fmr. Israeli Soldier Tours U.S. to Expose Abuse of Palestinians by Israeli Military

 http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/27/1341203

Friday, October 27th, 2006
Breaking the Silence: Fmr. Israeli Soldier Tours U.S. to Expose Abuse of Palestinians by
Israeli Military

We speak with Yehuda Shaul, a former Israeli soldier, who has just begun a tour of the
United States to give an inside look at how the Israeli military treats Palestinians in
the West Bank and Gaza. [includes rush transcript]

A leading Israeli human rights organization accused Israel on Thursday of breaking
international humanitarian law by holding thousands of Palestinian prisoners in Israel.

According to B'Tselem, international law prohibits the transfer of civilians, including
prisoners, from the occupied territories to Israel.

On Thursday B'Tselem issued a 53-page report outlining how Israel's prison policies has
made it nearly impossible for Palestinians to regularly visit relatives in jail.

Meanwhile, a former Israeli soldier named Yehuda Shaul has just begun a tour of the
United States to give an inside look at how the Israeli military treats Palestinians in
the West Bank and Gaza.

Shaul is a co-founder of Breaking the Silence - a group of former Israeli soldiers
committed to exposing human rights abuses by the Israeli military.

Last year the group revealed that Israel soldiers had been ordered to open fire on
unarmed Palestinians. The group has also gathered photographic evidence that proved
Israeli soldiers have abused Palestinian corpses.

*       Yehuda Shaul, former Israeli soldier and co-founder of Breaking the Silence
<http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il> .

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JUAN GONZALEZ: Yehuda Shaul joins us now from San Francisco. Welcome to Democracy Now!

YEHUDA SHAUL: Good morning.

AMY GOODMAN: Could you talk to us a little bit about what you're hoping to accomplish on
your tour?

YEHUDA SHAUL: I'm here in the United States, because, I would say, we in Breaking the
Silence see the act of breaking the silence as an act of taking responsibility. As
ex-Israeli soldiers, who've served as combat soldiers in the Occupied Territories and
were there and committed all what we're talking about, we're part of the occupation.
After we were discharged and realized what we were doing and what was going on around
us, there was only two options, as I see it. There's or to lock ourselves in the room,
cry and ask forgiveness, or to stand up and take responsibility and demand from others
to take responsibility.

So, in my eyes, breaking the silence, standing up and telling the stories and trying to
bring people to know and to realize and to understand what it means, occupation, on a
daily basis, through these testimonies that we publish and the pictures that we had in
the exhibition, is demanding from Israeli society to take responsibility for it, for
what is being done in their behalf.

And in my eyes, in our eyes, responsibility doesn't end with ex-soldiers who served
there or with Israelis, or the idea if our army as Israelis is doing all these things.
Responsibility is to every human being in the world, and for sure for Americans, because
in the end of the day for all what Israel does, there is only one country in the world
that, you know, the chief of staff and the prime minister of Israel has to report in the
end of the day, and that's the United States of America. For that reason, I think that
people of America must know what's going on there and must break their own silence and
take civil responsibility, human responsibility, to what is being done there.

AMY GOODMAN: Yehuda Shaul, tell us your story. How did you end up in the military? How
did you decide to leave?

YEHUDA SHAUL: In Israel, every Jewish Israeli is obligated by law to serve in the
military -- men for three years, women for two years. And when I reached the age of
eighteen, I was drafted for three years. I served as a combat soldier and a commander.
Two years out of my three years were in the Occupied Territories, and fourteen months
were in Hebron.

And during my service in the Occupied Territories, I just did whatever I had to do,
whatever were my missions, fulfilling my missions, leading my soldiers, doing all sorts
of things -- what it means, occupation -- and suddenly like three months before I was
discharged, I was sitting down and trying to imagine myself as a civilian. I told
myself, you know, in three months, I'm going to give back my weapon, my uniform, stop
being a combat soldier, and again going back to civilian life. And for me, that same
moment, you know, the exact moment of stop thinking as a professional combat soldier was
a moment of -- maybe I can call it an enlightenment, you know? It's a moment of stop
seeing things through the eyes of a soldier and start seeing things through an eye of a
civilian. It's like, again, stop seeing things from in the system and start observing it
from outside.

And when I suddenly looked at myself from the outside and looked backwards, you know, to
what I've done in the past two years and ten months in the Occupied Territories as a
soldier, I was totally shocked. I realized that something mad was going around me.
Suddenly I realized that the situation that I took part in brought me to do stuff that,
you know -- I wanted to believe that it wasn't me. But, you know, I couldn't escape it.
It was me. And when I realized that, I felt that I can't continue my life without doing
something about it.

And that's when I started to speak with some of my soldiers, some of my comrades, and I
discovered that we all felt the same, but we didn't have the courage to speak about it.
You know, it was something that we didn't -- it was somewhere in the back of the mind,
but we didn't open it inside the unit. And because we all felt the same, we all felt
that something wrong is going on around us, we decided to break the silence.

And I was discharged in March 2004. In June 2004, we started our activities with a photo
exhibition and video testimonies from our service in Hebron. As I said, I served
fourteen months in Hebron, so it was obvious that we're going to start from there. And
the idea of the exhibition, we called it then, is to break the silence surrounding
what's going on in the Occupied Territories, in what we called "Bringing Hebron to Tel
Aviv," because you must understand that, you know, what's going on in the Occupied
Territories is like the biggest secret in Israeli society. It's like the taboo. You
never talk about it. It's like something that happens in the backyard. It's the dirt
from the back yard that no one wants to have it in the front. And for that reason --

JUAN GONZALEZ: I'd like to ask you about all of these thousands of Palestinian
prisoners. From your perspective, as someone who's obviously had to participate in the
capturing and imprisonment of some of these Palestinian civilians, what is this doing to
Palestinian society, to have so many people locked up for such a long period of time
under Israeli control?

YEHUDA SHAUL: I have no idea. I'm not a Palestinian. Just, you know, looking from the
outside, seems like breaking all the family structure. I don't know, just trying to
think of, you know, all the people that we arrested, bumping in the middle of the night
through the windows, through the doors, through the roofs, waking up the family, taking
people. No one knows when they're going to get back, why they were taken. You know, this
is -- just, you know, almost every night in the Occupied Territories, you do an arrest
operation. Every night you come back with what we saw in the pictures before, or you see
now, of handcuffed, blindfolded Palestinians, who are just, you know, were now arrested,
waiting to be taken to interrogations at the secret services.

But also, there's another kind of Palestinians, as you see now in the picture, and
that's kind of what we call in Hebrew, or I will translate it, what we called "dry
outs," or if I would professionally translate it, "detainees." And these are
Palestinians, you know, when you stand in the checkpoint and you ask from all the
Palestinians to stand in a very nice one line, and suddenly one of them starts screaming
or leaves the line, so you must educate him, right? They must know who's the boss. So
you detain the man aside. You took him, handcuff, blindfold -- five, six, seven hours,
it could be more, it could be less. Or you call a Palestinian in the checkpoint, you ask
from him his ID. He smiles too much. You must educate them.

And all the system is built on fear. It's built of just oppressing, I don't know, of not
being able to treat Palestinians as equal human beings to you, because the job is to do
things that you don't do to equal human beings, you know, to bump in the middle of the
night to a family from the roof and wake up all the family, separate men from women and
just search all the house. It's something that you don't do to an equal human being to
you. It's something that I never done in Israel, but in the Occupied Territories, as a
combat soldier, as an occupier, that's my daily job, 24/7, house after house.

AMY GOODMAN: Yehuda Shaul, we have to leave it there, but we will link to Breaking the
Silence <http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/index_en.asp>  and your tour, where you'll
be in this country, as we speak to him today in San Francisco.

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