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OK : Ctrl-Enter
Cancel : Esc
Stefan
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Hmm, the article says only "Enter" for OK ?
Regards,
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Well, Enter is used in the log message edit box already - or you
couldn't write multiline log messages.
That's why it's Ctrl-Enter for almost every TSVN dialog.
Stefan
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Since it was already in, it would seem to the me that the easiest
thing for the developer was to LEAVE it in. Was there some overriding
reason for taking the time to remove it?
On the surface it seems like a brain-dead thing to have done.
On Apr 3, 4:26 am, webp...@tigris.org wrote:
> What's a pity. The old way was more usable IMHO.
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As stated earlier in this very thread:
http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2008/05/08/8467905.aspx
which was written by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Chen
so I think he knows a thing or three about Windows interface guidelines...
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Oh, and sorry about the "brain-dead" comment. Thank you for making
TortoiseSVN. It makes my job so much easier.
On Apr 3, 10:54 am, Kurt Pruenner <l...@gmx.at> wrote:
> Jack C. Holt wrote:
> > Since it was already in, it would seem to the me that the easiest
> > thing for the developer was to LEAVE it in. Was there some overriding
> > reason for taking the time to remove it?
>
> As stated earlier in this very thread:
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> http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2008/05/08/8467905.aspx
>
> which was written by
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Chen
>
> so I think he knows a thing or three about Windows interface guidelines...
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> .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
> np: Autechre - Tkakanren (Quaristice Quadrange EP)
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Raymond Chen is a brilliant programmer, but he is not an interaction
designer nor (AFAIK) does he claim to be. He may be right that the
(ancient!) Windows UI guidelines say to not use an accelerator on the
OK button, but this particular accelerator is so useful that it's
worth breaking those guidelines.
And they are guidelines, not rules. Note that several of the
commenters in the cited thread disagree with Raymond.
It's especially annoying for me as a Komodo user. I got the Komodo
guys to add Alt+O to their own source control commit dialog,
specifically so that it would be key-compatible with Tortoise.
The Alt+O shortcut does no harm and much good. Please reconsider and
bring it back.
Thanks!
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Breaking that muscle memory for every programmer who uses TortoiseSVN
is a Bad Thing. A Very Bad Thing. It could be justified in some cases,
but it should be something you are very reluctant to do, and do it
only when there is a very good reason.
Windows UI guidelines from twenty years ago (yes, twenty!) are not a
good enough reason. Raymond Chen's opinion is not a good enough
reason. Is there a good enough reason? What is it?
Contrast with the Subversion command line: When was the last time the
confirmation key for the svn command was changed? :-)
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Was this change a response to somebody's problem? If so, tell us here, please.
(But I am pleased that diff 1.6 recognises <Ctrl>+<Insert> - thanks!)
Once established, it should not have been changed.
If changed, if should have been in the Change Log.
The combination should be documented in the User Guide, probably in 4.1.4, common shortcuts. There should be index entries under "Accelerator", "keystroke" or "key combination" and "Shortcut" (which currently only leads to a desktop shortcut).
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Maybe someone who is interested could submit a patch?
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