World's Foremost Child Artist Prodigy - Home Schooled and All About Loving Jesus
SunDancer
About Loving Jesus
Akiane Kramarik, a soft-spoken 10 -year old girl who lives in
Idaho with her parents and three brothers, is very much a normal
little girl who comments on having three brothers as sometimes
"very difficult", but she is by no means common. Drawing with
life-like accuracy from the age of 5, Akiane has garnered
international attention and been featured on the Oprah Winfrey
Show, and on CNN, CBS and ABC. Her paintings have sold for
upwards of $50,000 and she has made substantial charitable
contributions to alleviate poverty and hunger especially in
children. However, Akiane, also a highly acclaimed poet who
speaks Russian, and Lithuanian in addition to English,
attributes her talents to God and has as her greatest wish,
"that everyone would love God and one another."
LifeSiteNews.com spoke with Akiane and her mother Forelli
Kramarik today about her art and her relationship with God.
Mrs. Kramarik told LifeSiteNews.com that the family's conversion
to Christianity from atheism came as a response to visions her
daughter began having at the age of four. It is also those
visions and conversations with God which drive Akiane to her
art. Her mother noted that she rises at 5am every morning to
pray and then do her painting. As Akiane describes it, "Every
morning and every evening I have conversations with God.
There's like a voice in my mind that talks to me."
Akiane told LifeSiteNews.com the origin of a particularly
striking painting of Christ called "Prince of Peace". Akiane
said that she saw Jesus in a vision and for a long time
afterwards sought a suitable model to paint Christ as she saw
Him in her vision. "For two years I was looking for a Jesus
model in Colorado, I couldn't find anything. Then we moved to
Idaho and I prayed to God, 'if you want me to paint this Jesus
model please bring them through our front door'. Well then a
couple of days later this carpenter - six feet tall - just
perfect, just came right from the front door, and he was just
perfect for my painting. It was so amazing and he agreed to be
a model for me."
The resulting painting was not only amazing for its artistic
quality. Mrs. Kramarik noted that Jurij Sizenov Nikolaevich of
the Russian television station Shabolovka was overwhelmed by
Akiane's painting of Christ, especially after he compared it
with a computerized image of the Shroud of Turin and found
virtually an exact match.
Akiane is homeschooled and rarely watches television. As to
homeschooling she says, "I love homeschooling. Because you have
more time to pray, to paint, write, spend time with the family,
and play with my baby brother and my dog. I really like
homeschooling."
Although LifeSiteNews.com was reluctant to ask Akiane about
abortion, her mother was very open to the notion. When the
subject of abortion was broached Akiane first said she did not
know what it was, but her mother reminded her that it was "the
killing of babies still in the womb of the mother". When told
that the practice goes on in the U.S. and Canada and most of the
world she responded emphatically, "Really that's bad." She
added, "I can totally help, I will help them no matter what."
A book on the amazing child prodigy entitled, "Akiane, Her Art,
Her Poetry, Her Life", an anthology of her art, poetry,
philosophy and life is about to be released.
For more information on Akiane visit her website at:
http://www.akianepaintings.com/home.htm
jhw
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($50 million? Where the hell did you get that figure?
An aborton costs about $600. 100,000 x $600 =
$600,000. Seems you failed arithmetic as well as
logic, Lauzon. Why am I not surprised?)
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-Ivan Gowch
Strings
reality.
Jesus was a cult leader like Jim Jones and David Corrish.
When he discovers he was lied to about real things like evolution and the
world is not flat.
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they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
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depth from my 7 year old... spooky! LOL.
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> About Loving Jesus
>
>
> The resulting painting was not only amazing for its artistic
> quality. Mrs. Kramarik noted that Jurij Sizenov Nikolaevich of
> the Russian television station Shabolovka was overwhelmed by
> Akiane's painting of Christ, especially after he compared it
> with a computerized image of the Shroud of Turin and found
> virtually an exact match.
>
So why does comparing this painting to the shroud of Turin mean anything?
The shroud has been proven to be a fake, and dates from the middle ages.
m
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> About Loving Jesus
>
> Akiane Kramarik, a soft-spoken 10 -year old girl who lives in
> Idaho with her parents and three brothers, is very much a normal
> little girl who comments on having three brothers as sometimes
> "very difficult", but she is by no means common. Drawing with
> life-like accuracy from the age of 5, Akiane has garnered
> international attention and been featured on the Oprah Winfrey
> Show, and on CNN, CBS and ABC. Her paintings have sold for
> upwards of $50,000 and she has made substantial charitable
> contributions to alleviate poverty and hunger especially in
> children. However, Akiane, also a highly acclaimed poet who
> speaks Russian, and Lithuanian in addition to English,
> attributes her talents to God and has as her greatest wish,
> "that everyone would love God and one another."
>
> LifeSiteNews.com spoke with Akiane and her mother Forelli
> Kramarik today about her art and her relationship with God.
> Mrs. Kramarik told LifeSiteNews.com that the family's conversion
> to Christianity from atheism came as a response to visions her
> daughter began having at the age of four. It is also those
> visions and conversations with God which drive Akiane to her
> art.
So John, should we start kill filling "Akiane Forelli" right beside
Medjurgejejeje?
If she starts to see Jesus in tea bags are you going to start
a web site and sell the video?
Seven of 3
hand.
She thinks she is talking to god because in her own words:
"Every morning and every evening I have conversations with God. There's like
a voice in my mind that talks to me."
A voice in her mind that talks to her is her own inner voice - not God.
And you don't find it odd that she was looking for a model of Jesus,
and this carpenter just happens to comes along 3 days after a prayer for the
perfect Jesus model.
She does the painting, and some amatuer with a PC and a digital camera
claims its almost an identical match to the image on the shroud of Turin.
So let's accept it is perfectly identical. Two things come to mind. She used
her artistic genuis to copy the shroud identically and is just making up a
bullshit story about the model.
See the shroud of Turin is kinda faded, the image is not that detailed. You
certainly don't need a model to paint an exact copy. All you need is the
library. TV is not necessary.
She doesn't even need the Internet. But let's say she is perfectly honest.
Say she found this carpenter that was a perfect model for Jesus, so perfect
that her result was the image on what is claimed to be his death shroud.
Then what the fuck is lifesite doing interviewing this bimbo.
So what do we have here:
A Carpenter.
Is the identical image of Jesus Christ.
Kid paints him, ends up with the same image on the shroud of Turin.
That kid just painted Christ the savior. Obviously he is back on earth. I
mean it's 2004 already. He's been due for a while.
All he knows is the carpentry trade, and preaching. You guys just let the
Lord slip through your sinful fingers and now you've lost him once again.
Poor bastards!
Al Smith
> The shroud has been proven to be a fake, and dates from the middle ages.
>
It hasn't you know. There is evidence that the test sample used to
carbon date the shroud was contaminated with later organic
materials that skewed the result. And no one has come up with a
creditable explanation for the image on the shroud. I've seen
sveral of the "explanations" demonstrated, and they are laughable.
They produce images nothing like that on the shroud.
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Socrates taught his students that the pursuit of truth can only begin once
they start to question and analyze every belief that they ever held dear. If
a certain belief passes the tests of evidence, deduction, and logic, it
should be kept. If it doesn't, the belief should not only be discarded, but
the thinker must also then question why he was led to believe the erroneous
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We must all worship Jesus, those who don't go to the fire and brimstone of HADES!
Everyone's purpose in life is to convert others to Christianity or die trying. We
must never give up.
There is only one legitimate Religion and that is Orthodox Christian, anyone who
practises any other kind is defying God's will!
We are at war with the sodomites, unbelievers, devil worshippers and Christ
Killers.
Send money to my Ministry and Jesus will save you!!
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It's a stain.
Seven of 3
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Yes, it was contaminated by carbon from a fire it was in that almost
destroyed it.
The samples they were allowed to take were minute, and from an area that was
damaged by the fire and chemicals to clean it.
It can be accurately carbon dated. The people involved in the dating said
so.
They just need a bigger sample from another area of the cloth.
The scientific assumption is that it is fake. The religious assumption is
that it is real.
The church will not provide an adaquate sample to properly date it. That
suggest that it is fake.
The assumption was that it was a fake, and long before any carbon dating.
Carbon dating was supposed to prove it was a fake - not prove that it was
real.
The problem is much of the cloth is contaminated.,so it will be hard to get
proper sample.
And because it is contaminated, and the church will allow no further
testing, you have to accept it on faith.
Of course the church prefers it that way. Being fake would harm the symbol
is has become.
That is more important than if it is real or not.
And even if it did date, there is still no proof that the person depicted is
Jesus, nor that he was the son of God.
It just proves it was from that time. But for now it's date and origins are
unknown.
His Divine Shadow
> > The shroud has been proven to be a fake, and dates from the middle ages.
> >
>
> It hasn't you know. There is evidence that the test sample used to
> carbon date the shroud was contaminated with later organic
> materials that skewed the result.
Bullshit. The Carbon 14 test is based on a ratio of radioactive to non
radiactive carbon. The sample would have to nothing BUT "later organic
matter" to skew the results to that degree.
> And no one has come up with a
> creditable explanation for the image on the shroud.
It's painted. This has already been shown. And there is no blood on
the shroud. Those stories are pious lies.
> I've seen
> sveral of the "explanations" demonstrated, and they are laughable.
Not as laughable as the lengths to which the pious will prostitute
their intellect to believe that a 14th hoax is "real".
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Today's Christian, July/August 2004
Akiane Kramarik: Dream Child
This 10-year-old prodigy, who says God shows her what to paint, is
using her gift to help the needy.
By Mary Berryhill
Akiane Kramarik is a young prodigy from Sandpoint, Idaho, who has been
drawing and painting lifelike artwork since she was 4. Akiane
(pronounced ah-KEE-ah-nah) says she first met God when she was 3. And
now she's hoping to use her amazing gift to help feed needy children
around the world.
When young Akiane's special gift was discovered, not much time passed
before the humble 10-year-old was featured on Oprah, CNN, and other
national media programs. Akiane began working in pastels when she was
5, and completed her first painting at 7. The self-portrait she
painted sold for $10,000.
"It wasn't just art that was happening. Simultaneous with art was a
spiritual awakening," says Akiane's mother, Forelli Kramarik. "It all
began to happen when she started to share her dreams and
visions."Prior to that time, Forelli had been raised as an unbeliever,
in an atheistic family from Lithuania."And my husband was a former
Catholic and did not share in the family beliefs. We didn't pray
together, there was no discussion about God, and we didn't go to
church. Then all of a sudden, Akiane was starting to talk about God."
Forelli's young daughter was homeschooled, she had no babysitters, and
the family watched no television."We were with the kids all the time,
and so these words from Akiane about God didn't come from the
outside—we knew that. But there suddenly were intense conversations
about God's love, His place [in our lives], and she would describe
everything in detail."
In the beginning, Akiane drew pictures of family members and pets, but
her interests eventually shifted to the creation of faces. She started
"scribbling" more and more faces. She tries to recreate visions that
she says God gives her in her dreams.
"I wake up after I have had many dreams. I wake up and I pray, and
then I see visions and I explain all those to my mom, and I say, 'This
is what I want to paint.' And my mom says, 'I'll give you a canvass so
you can paint it.'"From her dreams Akiane began to compose what she
calls the "Jesus" paintings, which took her more than 75 hours to
complete. She has so far painted two oils of Jesus. She calls the
first one "The Prince of Peace," and the second is titled "Forgive
Them, Father."
"I always think about Jesus and talk about Him," she says. "I was
looking for a [Jesus] model for a long, long time, and when I couldn't
find anyone, one day I suggested to my family to pray all day for this
model so God would send the right one." The day that they prayed, a
very tall carpenter—yes, a carpenter—came to their door looking for
work. When he showed up, Akiane nearly fainted. "I told my mother that
that was him. I want him to be my model," she recalls.
The carpenter agreed to it at first, but he called a week later to
back out.
"He said that he wasn't worthy to represent his Master," Akiane says.
"He's a Christian, and he's a humble person. But I prayed that God
would change his mind and that he would call back." And the mysterious
carpenter, who wished to remain anonymous, did call Akiane back,
saying that God wanted him to pose for the painting, although he felt
it was unusual.
Akiane took pictures, studied his face, made sketches, used her
imagination and photo references, and the result was the "Prince of
Peace."
Akiane's day is a little different from other children her age who are
homeschooled. When she wakes each morning she has a drink of water,
exercises, prays, and then she paints.
"And after I paint, I write poetry," Akiane adds. "And I write
Russian, and then I write and read Lithuanian, after which I read the
Bible."
When asked how she knows that it's God who is speaking to her, she
replies, "Because I can hear His voice. His voice is quiet and
beautiful." Although she was 3 at the time, she'll always remember
God's first message to her. "He said, 'You have to do this, and I'll
help you.' He said, 'Now you can help people.' I said, 'Yes, I will.'
But I said it in different words in my mind. I speak through my mind
to Him."
Akiane also has another dream that she believes God has given her—only
this one is one that she dreams during her waking hours."I really want
to help needy people in Africa and other places," she says.
"Especially the Lithuanian people—the 'garbage children' is what they
are called. They live in the garbage, and 2- and 3-year-olds are being
killed for the first place in the food line," she says. "Lithuania has
the highest suicide rate in the world. They need help with food and
medicine, and a free hospital. I really want to build a free hospital
for them."
Akiane hopes to fund such projects with the sale of her paintings and
poetry. According to her agent, Akiane soon will embark on a world
tour to raise money for the African AIDS crisis.
"We don't have an answer as to why this is happening. We don't have a
clue," Forelli Kramarik says about her daughter's unfolding ministry.
"We're just thankful to God."
But Akiane does seem to have an answer. When her mother asks her why
she thinks she received her gift, the 10-year-old replies: "I have
been blessed by God. And if I'm blessed, there is one reason and one
reason only, and that is to help others."
Glenn Olson
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>The scientific assumption is that it is fake. The religious assumption is
>that it is real.
>The church will not provide an adaquate sample to properly date it. That
>suggest that it is fake.
Meh. Were it any organization other than 'the church,' it might; but
'the church' has long held Faith to be more important than Knowledge.
And cutting up the shroud would not only be a desecration of a holy
item for the 'lesser' virtue of knowledge, but would be an act that
questions Faith.
It certainly does them no favours, but their motives are honest.