It seems to me it is not excatly TOP /It is Eric, Markus and me who find it be esential think if I understud correctly this part/, it is not any voting mechanism sa long sa we have plenty of them up there.
What i seems to be our front line is belief that internet technology enables large jump of the whole political process thanks to informatisation. I do understand it is far from our own fullfilled, but glass legs visions and political concepts, but this is the stuff we all agree about, having potetntial to become pretty easy politically relevant on the large scale. This is the stuff we all have concensus, the stuff that differs us from any other political TOP forum/group/site on the internet, at least up to what I know in this moment.
So, if we are going to move this group to some URL and enable its growth, knowledge of the ground of that site is essential. What I find cool is that this thing that we all (I suppose, please correct me if I am wrong) find purely logical is not something purely logical to millions of the net users all over the World. There is actually no site that would gather political initiatives based on this simple thought.
If we create something like that, enabling all the stuff we have talked about, this simple idea will make us recognized in the internet spheres. Something evey single initiative up there essentially needs for its future.
So, if we ever decide to move from this group, I would actually support this easily recognised thought to be our base line for the World penetation. I do undesratnd that this is far from our deep thought, yet reality says there are only 20 of us we could find who would share this simple idea in this moment. If we gather more people, maybe we will become potent enough to realise simple tasks /AD programing, SD2 programing, TOP programing/, stuff that make us look silly due to difference among big thought and pretty small realisation.
What is even greater, in the topics "What do we all agree in this very time" and "Do you acknowledge this group to be a start for your initiatives on the global level?" there are several new agreement come up.
As long as we are planning to move together, I will c/p these parts, if I missed something, please put it here.
MG says: I think TOP can start with plurality of systems. This can be the front.
Echarp says: +1
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 02:06:57PM +0200, illegale wrote: > > MG wrote: > > > I think TOP can start with plurality of systems. > > > This can be the front.
Eric Lim (previous discussions)says:
"Hi MG,
If what you mean is that you know of competent programmers who would help us with the writing of the softwares needed for TOP, this is really very interesting indeed. We should not miss this opportunity."
Mark says:
"1. Give each member a *voting account*, I will get interested.
2. Weight the votes with PageRank, I will be even more interested.
3. Have SD2 input constraints(or default reps) on the ballot page, I will be overjoyed.
4. Have all of this with GRAPHICS that show the current SOCIAL NETWORK structure, I will FLIP."
Markus and I do agree about this group front.
Could not find opinion of Charles, nor Pether about this issue.
I do not know are Brocken Clock and Guy fammiliar to this intention.
Talked to Emmanuel yesterday about about Klaus, member on the yahoo group who did not post for a while. Klaus is monitoring this process as I do understand.
What I have noticed by reading some past conversation I actually missed is that there are several more agreement happened.
So, what I have wrote till now is actually only my perspective. I suppose it would not be bad thing if other members showed their own perspective in a manner of enabling recapitulation of the list.