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Mikele  
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 More options Oct 3 2012, 12:25 am
From: Mikele <him...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 13:25:29 +0900
Local: Wed, Oct 3 2012 12:25 am
Subject: Re: [THS:20509] Re: Japan's new piracy laws

yeah... but you see, I do not download stuff... never bothered with
bit-torrent.
I rent my movie from the store or iTunes (flames on me)
BUT
I do watch stuff on youtube... and I have no idea what the copyright deal
is there, I assume that, since it is there, it is legal... I sometime
donwload youtube videos in HD for later vision... especially if they keep
buffering.
and I do listen music on grooveshark ... same assumptions...
in my case, if I really like what I listen to, I do buy the plastic CD from
Amazon... so I am convinced that youtube and grooveshark can fit very well
in a marketing strategy to have actual sales...

in any case, life should be simpler... and not all countries follow this
model.

On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Taylan Ayken <taylan_ay...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If I may quote all the lawmakers out there: "If you are not doing
> something illegal, why are you worried? You got something to hide?"

> No more illegal downloads guys, you have to actually buy those AKB48
> albums.

>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Torsten Wagner <torsten.wag...@gmail.com>
> *To:* tokyohackerspace@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [THS:20507] Re: Japan's new piracy laws

> 1984 is past already....
> 1984 relay on terminals in your house and on the fact that people spy at
> you
> we already got much worse that this utopia
> We offer our-self on social platforms and carry devices around which
> allows to track us at all time...
> George Orwell would have a heck of fun writing 2084
> Totti

> On 3 October 2012 12:36, Mikele <him...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > conspirationist POV:
> > watch youtube, no prosecution (2 years jail and fine), but gets under
> legal
> > and justified internet surveillance.
> > is 1984 getting closer?

> > On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, sean toczko <stoc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >> all courtesy of the local branch of the RIAA (RIAJ).

> >> of course the tech-savvy geniuses who created this steaming pile, also
> >> claim youtube viewing is classed as "illegal downloading" if it's deemed
> >> "illegal"

> >> raises ALL sorts of questions.

> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Mikele <him...@gmail.com> wrote:

> >>> also
> >>> http://boingboing.net/2012/10/01/japan-competes-with-panama-to.html

> >>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Kalin KOZHUHAROV <me.ka...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:

> >>>> Amendments to the law stating the fines:
> >>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19767970

> >>>> Kalin.

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