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C is the total charge capacity. If you have a 20 A-hr battery, then C would
be 20. If the max charge is 0.1C for constant current, then you'd charge at
2A and it would theoretically take 10 hours to charge. If you do constant
voltage at 14.4V and 0.3C, then you'd be charging at 6A.
As for a charge circuit, unless you're really motivated about doing a
battery charger circuit, I'd just get a charger:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0016G8EFA/ref=s9_simh_bw_p263_d0_i4?pf_r
d_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5
<http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0016G8EFA/ref=s9_simh_bw_p263_d0_i4?pf_
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[mailto:tokyohackerspace@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:35 PM
To: tokyohackerspace@googlegroups.com
Subject: [THS:21214] Charging a Motorcycle Battery.
I have a Suzuki "Let's II" 30cc scooter. The battery in it is horked, so I
went online to Amazon to and bought a replacement. I figured get the
battery plug it in and be able to start it without using the kicker and thus
killing myself in the process. The battery I ordered came in this evening.
I opened the box to find the battery, and another box. Inside the other box
was 6 containers of electrolytic fluid for the battery. Because the amazon
product info was in Japanese I did not realize the battery came uncharged in
a un-usable state.
I now need to figure out how to charge this battery. Luckily it came with
some english instructions. In those instructions there are 2 charging
methods.
a) Charge at a constant current:
Charging current 0.1C (sub10)A (see attachement).
Charging Time 12-13hrs
b) Charge at a constant voltage:
14.4V for 12V limited current 0.3C(sub10)A.
12-18hr charging time.
I've never made a charging circuit, and I am not sure how to limit the
battery to 0.3C(sub10)A I don't even know what the "C" represents, so it
is a little confusing. Any help here would be appreciated.
Thanks,
James
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charge
capacity. If you have a 20 A-hr battery, then C would be 20. If the max =
charge
is 0.1C for constant current, then you’d charge at 2A and it would
theoretically take 10 hours to charge. If you do constant voltage at =
14.4V and
0.3C, then you’d be charging at 6A. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>James =
Andrews<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November =
13, 2012
7:35 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [THS:21214] =
Charging a
Motorcycle <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Battery</st1:place>.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I have a Suzuki "Let's II" 30cc =
scooter.
The battery in it is horked, so I went online to Amazon to and =
bought a
replacement. I figured get the battery plug it in and be able to =
start it
without using the kicker and thus killing myself in the process. =
The
battery I ordered came in this evening. I opened the box to find the =
battery,
and another box. Inside the other box was 6 containers of =
electrolytic
fluid for the battery. Because the amazon product info was in =
Japanese I
did not realize the battery came uncharged in a un-usable =
state.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I now need to figure out how to charge this =
battery.
Luckily it came with some english instructions. In those
instructions there are 2 charging methods.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>a) Charge at a constant =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> Charging current 0.1C (sub10)A =
(see
attachement).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> Charging Time =
12-13hrs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>b) Charge at a constant =
voltage:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 14.4V for 12V limited current
0.3C(sub10)A.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 12-18hr charging =
time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
lang=3DEN-US
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not sure
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