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Subject: Re: [Tithing & Stewardship Group] New Member
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When a Christian fully understands the commands, purpose and mission of Jes=
us Christ, the Holy Spirit will direct him as to who, when, what, how and w=
here to give if that Christian desires to do so.=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________=
_________________=0A From: "vi...@lavello.net" <vi...@lavello.net>=0ATo: ti=
the@googlegroups.com =0ASent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:16 PM=0ASubject: Re:=
 [Tithing & Stewardship Group] New Member=0A =0AThat's about as good an ans=
wer as you get - but following through on that is a beast. The early church=
 did 100% Acts 4:34-35 but I don't and perhaps missionaries do but not the =
Church. Actually under the influence of this group I quit tithing and over =
time directing contributions wherever it pleased me to feel led, what happe=
ned over time is I took jurisdiction of "my" money to this day I contribute=
 nothing at all and envy the past where at least I tithed.=0ASent from my V=
erizon Wireless BlackBerry=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Rebecca =
Brown <sewonsewfo...@gmail.com>=0ASender: tithe@googlegroups.com=0ADate: Su=
n, 22 Apr 2012 11:26:42 =0ATo: <tithe@googlegroups.com>=0AReply-To: tithe@g=
ooglegroups.com=0ASubject: Re: [Tithing & Stewardship Group] New Member=0A=
=0ADear friend if Jesus did not die, fulfill the Law of Moses and bring=0Ai=
n a new and better covenant with better promises, then you have=0Asomething=
 to worry about. But He did do all this and more. Tithing was=0Aset up in t=
he old Testament, to provide for the Levitical priesthood.=0AOf the 12 trib=
es of Israel one tribe, the Levites, received tithes of=0Athe other eleven.=
 But we have been told something very interesting and=0Arevealing in the Ne=
w Testament. Heb 7:12 -For the priesthood being=0Achanged, there is made of=
 necessity a change also of the law. This is=0Aso revealing. The priesthood=
 has been changed! All who are born again=0Aand now a part of the body of C=
hrist are His priesthood! 1Pe 2:9 -But=0Aye are a chosen generation, a roya=
l priesthood, an holy nation, a=0Apeculiar people; that ye should shew fort=
h the praises of him who hath=0Acalled you out of darkness into his marvell=
ous light:=A0 =A0 Now we are in=0Athe New Testament which Jesus shed His bl=
ood to give us. Mr 14:24 And=0Ahe said unto them, This is my blood of the n=
ew testament, which is=0Ashed for many.=A0 =A0 We entered into this New Tes=
tament after Jesus saw=0Athat ALL things had been accomplished that the scr=
iptures might be=0Afulfilled; when He had accomplished everything to bring =
the old to an=0Aend and usher in the New. John 19:28 - After this, Jesus kn=
owing that=0AALL THINGS were now ACCOMPLISHED, that the scripture might be=
=0AFULFILLED, saith, I thirst.=A0 =A0 After He died tithing was not taught=
=0Aeven one time by any of the writers of the New Testament. It was not a=
=0Apart of the New Covenant or the new priesthood. He requires something=0A=
different and even harder to give. Ro 12:1 -I beseech you therefore,=0Abret=
hren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living=0Asacrifi=
ce, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable=0Aservice.=A0 =A0 I=
f I am His %100, then so is all that I have. Not %10 but=0A%100 and in orde=
r to give the way He wants me to and when He wants me=0Ato, it would behoov=
e me to walk in the Spirit and let Him guide me. He=0Atells us in the New T=
estament, how to give 2Co 9:7 - Every man=0Aaccording as he purposeth in hi=
s heart, so let him give; not=0Agrudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth=
 a cheerful giver.=A0 =A0 You=0Ado not need to fear a curse because of Mala=
chi - Mal 3:11 - And I will=0Arebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he sh=
all not destroy the=0Afruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast h=
er fruit before=0Athe time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.=A0 =A0 Th=
is was said to=0Athe nation of Israel, while they were still under the Law =
of Moses,=0Abefore Jesus came and died for us, and at a time when the peopl=
e were=0Abreaking His law in many ways. But Jesus destroyed the works of th=
e=0Aenemy for us on the cross. He did the work. We have been saved from=0Ab=
ondage to Satan by the work Jesus has already done. He defeated Satan=0Aonc=
e and for all. He is not cursed because of anything we do any more,=0Aexcep=
t that we must receive the work of Christ and be born again. Eph.=0A2:5,9+1=
0 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened (made alive)=0Aus together=
 with Christ, by (grace ye are saved.) 9 Not of works, lest=0Aany man shoul=
d boast. 10 For we are his workmanship ... Satan does not=0Awant you to kno=
w the liberty that is yours.=A0 =A0  Satan does not want=0Ayou to walk in t=
he freedom Jesus paid a great price to give you. I=0Aencourage you to - Ga =
5:1 - Stand fast therefore in the liberty=0Awherewith Christ hath made us f=
ree, and be not entangled again with=0Athe yoke of bondage.=A0 =A0  Do not =
let the enemy drag you back into a=0Abondage that Jesus has freed you from.=
 Do not do what the Galations=0Adid - Ga 3:1 - O foolish Galatians, who hat=
h bewitched you, that ye=0Ashould not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jes=
us Christ hath been=0Aevidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 - This on=
ly would I learn=0Aof you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, =
or by the=0Ahearing of faith?=A0  Ga 1:6 - I marvel that ye are so soon rem=
oved from=0Ahim that called you into the GRACE OF CHRIST unto another gospe=
l:=0ARemember friend that - Joh 8:36 - If the Son therefore shall make you=
=0Afree, ye shall be free indeed.=A0 =A0  Do not allow the enemy to condemn=
=0Ayou and bring fear to your heart because you have accepted the work of=
=0AChrist and are willing to live in the New Covenant He has given you.=0AI=
nstead go ahead and - Jas 4:7 - Submit yourselves therefore to God.=0AResis=
t the devil, and he will flee from you.=A0 =A0  And rest assured that=0A- 1=
Jo 4:18 - There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out=0Afear: be=
cause fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect=0Ain love.=A0 =
=A0 Jesus did the work - Eph 2:15 - Having abolished in his=0Aflesh the enm=
ity, even the LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in=0Aordinances; for to make in=
 himself of twain one new man, so making=0APEACE; 2Co 3:13 - And not as Mos=
es, which put a vail over his face,=0Athat the children of Israel could not=
 stedfastly look to the end of=0Athat which is ABOLISHED:=A0 =A0 =A0 What d=
id Moses was this that was=0Aabolished? The old Law of Moses! which Jesus a=
bolished in His flesh.=0AThat law served a purpose at one time. Gal. 3:23+2=
4 But before FAITH=0ACAME, we were kept under the law, shut up UNTO the FAI=
TH which should=0AAFTERWARDS be revealed. 24 Wherefore the LAW was our scho=
olmaster to=0Abring us TO Christ.=A0 =A0 Now dear friend go ahead and - 5:1=
 -Stand fast=0Atherefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free,=
 and be=0Anot entangled again with the yoke of bondage.=A0 =A0 And - Php 4:=
4 -=0ARejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice.=A0 I have writte=
n a=0Amanuscript on tithing and the law called Money Changers in the Temple=
.=0AYou might like to read it.But I warn you it is a long study, that=0Ahop=
efully covers any questions you might have. If you should read it,=0Aplese =
start with chapter one and read them in order. :)=0Ahttp://www.moneychanger=
sinthetemple.blog...=0A=0AOn Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:56 AM, jared <jbbaab@gm=
ail.com> wrote:=0A> New Member Wrote:=0A> My testimony is summarized in my =
nickname - I am too Blessed To Be Stressed=0A> - 09 year of revelation. Bac=
k in 1990 the Lord laid on my mind that he loved=0A> a cheerful giver and t=
o give as the Holy Spirit leads me. That year I had no=0A> income but gave =
as the spirit led and God blessed me abundantly I did not=0A> lack for anyt=
hing. However I am now battling the mindset that I am cursed=0A> and robbin=
g God because I do not agree with the tithing doctrine.=0A>=0A> --=0A> You =
received this message because you are subscribed to the Google=0A> Tithing =
& Stewardship group.=0A>=0A> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to=
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he blog=0A> http://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/=0A> facebook=0A> http=
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p://churchtithesandofferings.com/blog/=0Afacebook=0Ahttps://www.facebook.co=
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offerings.com/blog/=0Afacebook=0Ahttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Stewardship=
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>When a Chr=
istian fully understands the commands, purpose and mission of Jesus Christ,=
 the Holy Spirit will direct him as to who, when, what, how and where to gi=
ve if that Christian desires to do so.<br></span></div><div><br></div>  <di=
v style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size:=
 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif=
; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> <hr=
 size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> "vince@=
lavello.net" &lt;vi...@lavello.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: b=
old;">To:</span></b> tithe@googlegroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-wei=
ght: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 22, 2012 5:16 PM<br> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tithing &amp; Stewardsh=
ip Group] New
 Member<br> </font> </div> <br>=0AThat's about as good an answer as you get=
 - but following through on that is a beast. The early church did 100% Acts=
 4:34-35 but I don't and perhaps missionaries do but not the Church. Actual=
ly under the influence of this group I quit tithing and over time directing=
 contributions wherever it pleased me to feel led, what happened over time =
is I took jurisdiction of "my" money to this day I contribute nothing at al=
l and envy the past where at least I tithed.<br>Sent from my Verizon Wirele=
ss BlackBerry<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Rebecca Brown &lt;=
<a ymailto=3D"mailto:sewonsewfo...@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:sewonsewforth@=
gmail.com">sewonsewfo...@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Sender: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:=
tithe@googlegroups.com" href=3D"mailto:tithe@googlegroups.com">tithe@google=
groups.com</a><br>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:26:42 <br>To: &lt;<a ymailto=3D=
"mailto:tithe@googlegroups.com" href=3D"mailto:tithe@googlegroups.com">tith=
e@googlegroups.com</a>&gt;<br>Reply-To:
 <a ymailto=3D"mailto:tithe@googlegroups.com" href=3D"mailto:tithe@googlegr=
oups.com">tithe@googlegroups.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [Tithing &amp; Steward=
ship Group] New Member<br><br>Dear friend if Jesus did not die, fulfill the=
 Law of Moses and bring<br>in a new and better covenant with better promise=
s, then you have<br>something to worry about. But He did do all this and mo=
re. Tithing was<br>set up in the old Testament, to provide for the Levitica=
l priesthood.<br>Of the 12 tribes of Israel one tribe, the Levites, receive=
d tithes of<br>the other eleven. But we have been told something very inter=
esting and<br>revealing in the New Testament. Heb 7:12 -For the priesthood =
being<br>changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. This=
 is<br>so revealing. The priesthood has been changed! All who are born agai=
n<br>and now a part of the body of Christ are His priesthood! 1Pe 2:9 -But<=
br>ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation,
 a<br>peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hat=
h<br>called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:&nbsp; &nbsp; Now=
 we are in<br>the New Testament which Jesus shed His blood to give us. Mr 1=
4:24 And<br>he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which=
 is<br>shed for many.&nbsp; &nbsp; We entered into this New Testament after=
 Jesus saw<br>that ALL things had been accomplished that the scriptures mig=
ht be<br>fulfilled; when He had accomplished everything to bring the old to=
 an<br>end and usher in the New. John 19:28 - After this, Jesus knowing tha=
t<br>ALL THINGS were now ACCOMPLISHED, that the scripture might be<br>FULFI=
LLED, saith, I thirst.&nbsp; &nbsp; After He died tithing was not taught<br=
>even one time by any of the writers of the New Testament. It was not a<br>=
part of the New Covenant or the new priesthood. He requires something<br>di=
fferent and even harder to give. Ro 12:1 -I beseech you
 therefore,<br>brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies=
 a living<br>sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable=
<br>service.&nbsp; &nbsp; If I am His %100, then so is all that I have. Not=
 %10 but<br>%100 and in order to give the way He wants me to and when He wa=
nts me<br>to, it would behoove me to walk in the Spirit and let Him guide m=
e. He<br>tells us in the New Testament, how to give 2Co 9:7 - Every man<br>=
according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not<br>grudgingly,=
 or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.&nbsp; &nbsp; You<br>do n=
ot need to fear a curse because of Malachi - Mal 3:11 - And I will<br>rebuk=
e the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the<br>fruits of yo=
ur ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before<br>the time in the=
 field, saith the LORD of hosts.&nbsp; &nbsp; This was said to<br>the natio=
n of Israel, while they were still under the Law of Moses,<br>before
 Jesus came and died for us, and at a time when the people were<br>breaking=
 His law in many ways. But Jesus destroyed the works of the<br>enemy for us=
 on the cross. He did the work. We have been saved from<br>bondage to Satan=
 by the work Jesus has already done. He defeated Satan<br>once and for all.=
 He is not cursed because of anything we do any more,<br>except that we mus=
t receive the work of Christ and be born again. Eph.<br>2:5,9+10 Even when =
we were dead in sins, hath quickened (made alive)<br>us together with Chris=
t, by (grace ye are saved.) 9 Not of works, lest<br>any man should boast. 1=
0 For we are his workmanship ... Satan does not<br>want you to know the lib=
erty that is yours.&nbsp; &nbsp;  Satan does not want<br>you to walk in the=
 freedom Jesus paid a great price to give you. I<br>encourage you to - Ga 5=
:1 - Stand fast therefore in the liberty<br>wherewith Christ hath made us f=
ree, and be not entangled again with<br>the yoke of bondage.&nbsp;
 &nbsp;  Do not let the enemy drag you back into a<br>bondage that Jesus ha=
s freed you from. Do not do what the Galations<br>did - Ga 3:1 - O foolish =
Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye<br>should not obey the truth, be=
fore whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been<br>evidently set forth, crucified am=
ong you? 2 - This only would I learn<br>of you, Received ye the Spirit by t=
he works of the law, or by the<br>hearing of faith?&nbsp;  Ga 1:6 - I marve=
l that ye are so soon removed from<br>him that called you into the GRACE OF=
 CHRIST unto another gospel:<br>Remember friend that - Joh 8:36 - If the So=
n therefore shall make you<br>free, ye shall be free indeed.&nbsp; &nbsp;  =
Do not allow the enemy to condemn<br>you and bring fear to your heart becau=
se you have accepted the work of<br>Christ and are willing to live in the N=
ew Covenant He has given you.<br>Instead go ahead and - Jas 4:7 - Submit yo=
urselves therefore to God.<br>Resist the devil, and he will flee
 from you.&nbsp; &nbsp;  And rest assured that<br>- 1Jo 4:18 - There is no =
fear in love; but perfect love casteth out<br>fear: because fear hath torme=
nt. He that feareth is not made perfect<br>in love.&nbsp; &nbsp; Jesus did =
the work - Eph 2:15 - Having abolished in his<br>flesh the enmity, even the=
 LAW OF COMMANDMENTS contained in<br>ordinances; for to make in himself of =
twain one new man, so making<br>PEACE; 2Co 3:13 - And not as Moses, which p=
ut a vail over his face,<br>that the children of Israel could not stedfastl=
y look to the end of<br>that which is ABOLISHED:&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; What d=
id Moses was this that was<br>abolished? The old Law of Moses! which Jesus =
abolished in His flesh.<br>That law served a purpose at one time. Gal. 3:23=
+24 But before FAITH<br>CAME, we were kept under the law, shut up UNTO the =
FAITH which should<br>AFTERWARDS be revealed. 24 Wherefore the LAW was our =
schoolmaster to<br>bring us TO Christ.&nbsp; &nbsp; Now dear friend
 go ahead and - 5:1 -Stand fast<br>therefore in the liberty wherewith Chris=
t hath made us free, and be<br>not entangled again with the yoke of bondage=
.&nbsp; &nbsp; And - Php 4:4 -<br>Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I sa=
y, Rejoice.&nbsp; I have written a<br>manuscript on tithing and the law cal=
led Money Changers in the Temple.<br>You might like to read it.But I warn y=
ou it is a long study, that<br>hopefully covers any questions you might hav=
e. If you should read it,<br>plese start with chapter one and read them in =
order. :)<br><a href=3D"http://www.moneychangersinthetemple.blog" target=3D=
"_blank">http://www.moneychangersinthetemple.blog</a>...<br><br>On Sun, Apr=
 22, 2012 at 7:56 AM, jared &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:jbb...@gmail.com" href=
=3D"mailto:jbb...@gmail.com">jbb...@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; New Me=
mber Wrote:<br>&gt; My testimony is summarized in my nickname - I am too Bl=
essed To Be Stressed<br>&gt; - 09 year of revelation. Back in 1990 the Lord
 laid on my mind that he loved<br>&gt; a cheerful giver and to give as the =
Holy Spirit leads me. That year I had no<br>&gt; income but gave as the spi=
rit led and God blessed me abundantly I did not<br>&gt; lack for anything. =
However I am now battling the mindset that I am cursed<br>&gt; and robbing =
God because I do not agree with the tithing doctrine.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; --<br=
>&gt; You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google<br=
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