migrating to TW notes or TWT notes

[jerimiah]

I have been taking notes with MPTW for a while and TW notes looks a
little better. Two questions:

Two features I'm hooked on are the autoweave plug in, which allows me
to discover things I already have notes on but didn't realize (like
complex drug names) and tiddly tagging, which is great because not
everything fits into a nice hierarchy. Or, more specifically, it may
fit in one spot in a hierarchy in one class and an entirely different
one in another class/context.

Does TW Notes satisfy those things?

If so, how do I migrate my existing data?

thanks!

[Morris Gray]

On Nov 3, 11:25 am, jerimiah <gentr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been taking notes with MPTW for a while and TW notes looks a
> little better.

MPTW is an icon so perhaps it is better said TW Notes has featues that
meets your needs better ;-)

Firstly TW Notes and TWT Notes have a a rather dated hierarchical menu
system but they both have tagglytagging installed. However they both
should be superseded by the jQuery Treeview hierarchical menu system.

Since I was first involved during the development of Treeview by MarkS
I have developed several experimental TiddlyWikis, learning as I went.
Examples are in the order they were developed:

1: http://twt-treeview.tiddlyspot.com/
2: http://twt-blackicity.tiddlyspot.com/
3: http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/

Number 3 I loaded with a lot of plugins and capabilities as a
demonstration model and it might have things not needed by many. I
intended it to be used in a general way with the user removing what
they didn't need or want. NotesStorm by Dave Gifford is a good
example. (I was thinking of calling a new one ThoughtShower but we'll
see if NotesStorm blows over first:-)

I am in the process of consolidating what I have learned and am
currently working on developing two slim final ones of which one will
include tagglytagging. And you might want to wait until then which is
about a month or so away.

I am only vaguely familiar with autoweave and current links to it seem
to be down. However I shouldn't think anything in Treeview
TiddlyWikis should prevent it from working.

None have tagglytagging installed but you can do that along with
autoweave and you can experiment with one of the above and see if you
can get some of your data to work in it.

Morris

[iain]

Morris,

are you going to offer some different colour schemes - something light
and breezy with a touch of blue and yellow you know sand and sea.
FiddlyWiki had a very nice colour scheme (see http://way.net/FiddlyWiki/FiddlyWiki.html).

Regards

Iain

[Morris Gray]

What I am working on is a wysiwyg TW design package that allows you to
virtually have any combination of themes applied separately to header,
background, MainMenu, topmenu, Sidebar, viewer, tiddler etc,

You'll be able to have multiple MainMenus and more than one at a time
by appending or prepending them into MainMenu, or the same in sidebar
choices - even reversing them if you wish or having both the same.
All changes are made with a single click and no knowledge of any type
of code is required. There are default versions of all so if you
don't like what you did just click the defaults.

Once you have made your choices you simply save and it stays that
way. There are no plugins or cookies used. So nothing can interfere
with the design used and you can make as many TiddlyWikis as you want,
all differing from one another, in perhaps many different ways, but
never interfering with each other whether online or offline or any
combination thereof. If you decide later to change any part just do it
and save.

Best of all even with all of the options it is still very light at
under 650k and could be less if the unused options are deleted. All
of the hard work is done and I am now trying to clean it up and decide
on some options for a beta release and get comments.

You'll be amazed... stay tuned ;-)

Morris

[jerimiah]

OK, I like have a time frame: that will give me a reason to stop
fiddling with my tiddly (two months ago that remark would have sounded
wrong) and //just// take notes.

Which leads me back to the migration issue: will it be fairly simple
to migrate my data to this new TW?

Thanks,

Jerimiah

[shavinder]

Morris, what you just described is like a long-standing wish come
true. Being able to change color schemes in an easy and mix-and-match
way is what I have wanted since long.
Looking forward and waiting to be amazed.

-shavinder

[Måns]

I second that :-)
"Looking forward and waiting to be amazed."..
Maybe a Christmaspresent - that would be very welcome.

YS Måns Mårtensson

[Craig in Calgary]

Count me in on the "Oh boy! I can't wait!" list.

[Måns]

Hi Jeremiah

> If so, how do I migrate my existing data?
>
> thanks!

Read this (about how to import tiddlers and plugins) http://tinyurl.com/yl5o2vx

Morris' twhelp for beginners http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/#MovingTiddlers
Dave's TiddlyWiki for the rest of us
http://www.giffmex.org/twfortherestofus.html#[[How%20to%20install%20a%20plugin]]
and Tiddlywiki.org http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Import#Importing_From_TiddlyWiki_Documents

Regards Måns Mårtensson

[iain]

I think one important tip is if you are importing data tiddlers from
another TW don't they both have to be in the same folder?

Iain

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Wow, Morris, that style picker thingy sounds really cool! I await it
with baited breath.

Hopefully it will work better than your terrible puns about
NoteStorm!

The name NoteStorm, by the way, was necessitated by you, Morris,
because of your comment about my "unfortunately named No-Brainer
Notes"! I was shooting for something less unfortunately named...

Good to see you back in action on the group. You were pretty quiet
there for a while...

Dave

[Eric Weir]

On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:51 AM, jerimiah wrote:

> Which leads me back to the migration issue: will it be fairly simple
> to migrate my data to this new TW?

I migrated from MPTW to TWT-Blackicity-Lite several months ago. I
installed tagglytagging and with Treeview's hierarchical file
structure there is a lot of flexibility for organizing and retrieving
tiddlers.

Importing data tiddlers will not be a problem. With the import
function in the backstage it's pretty straightforward. The references
in Mån's response should answer any questions you might have.

Though you've probably figured all this out by now.

Regards,
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

[Morris Gray]

On Nov 4, 4:38 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I second that :-)
> "Looking forward and waiting to be amazed."..
> Maybe a Christmaspresent - that would be very welcome.

Test post

Morris

[Morris Gray]

On Nov 4, 4:38 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I second that :-)
> "Looking forward and waiting to be amazed."..
> Maybe a Christmaspresent - that would be very welcome.

Test post

On Nov 4, 4:38 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Morris Gray]

I am looking for an articulate, enthusiastic, discrete (must submit to
a confidentiality agreement) beta tester for the amazing TW Flatpack*
to test the 2,688,000** possible available combinations of TiddlyWiki
Themes and function layouts while there are still few enough to
test;-)

They must be willing to try to invalidate the claims that, not only
the word amazing is an understatement; but, several other claims that
are equally astounding. Claims such that it is totally immune to
interference by plugins. Claims that any conceivable core changes will
not affect it in any way and that while some cookies are used,
conflicting cookies between TiddlyWikis cannot materially affect the
look and functionality.

Other more subjective claims to be evaluated are that it gives one the
feeling of solidity, instilling confidence that it feels rock solid at
all times and never gives a moment's hesitation that is to be trusted
to preform as advertised. That it always remains the way you left it
no matter how the odd the combination you achieve.

The beta tester selected should also be one who dislikes to put their
drink down (that always leaves unsightly rings on their desk) in order
to verify the claim that the (current 2,688,000 combinations) can be
achieved without touching the keyboard;-)

Apply here in one hundred words or less why you want to be this beta
tester and agree that you will not share the TiddlyWiki, or copy any
of the original functions, or share them with any others until given
the OK by me.

*Subject to change if it interferes with Ikea's trademark
**Verified by a University Mathematics Professor.

Morrris Gray

[Måns]

Ok, I will and can submit to these conditions - and I am willing to
give it a go trying to keep my cup in the air untill you give your
OK .
(My Sweedish origin, which makes me very patriotic, because I live in
Denmark, ensures that no interferences with Ikea's trademark will be
considered high priority ).

YS Måns Mårtensson

[Morris Gray]

On Nov 9, 5:43 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:

> (My Sweedish origin, which makes me very patriotic, because I live in
> Denmark, ensures that no interferences with Ikea's trademark will be
> considered high priority ).

That cavalier approach to trademarks must be why the Danish are so
interesting, especially the women;-)

OK, you're on Måns. Send me your email address off list and I will
invite you into the new Dropbox private sharing folder. Then you can
familiarize yourself with the greatest thing since unsliced bread.

Morris