Plugin for attaching notes or comments to tiddlers

[Eric Weir]

Is there a plugin that would allow one to attach notes or comments to a
displayed tiddler -- the would reference in some way what specifically
is being commented on, that could be appended without opening the
tiddler for editing, that would display only when moused over.

My imagination tells me it's too much to hope for, but thought I'd check.

Regards,
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Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

[okido]

Hi Eric,

Maybe yo could use the annotationsplugin from lewcid.

Have a nice day, Okido

[Eric Shulman]

> Is there a plugin that would allow one to attach notes or comments to a
> displayed tiddler -- the would reference in some way what specifically
> is being commented on, that could be appended without opening the
> tiddler for editing, that would display only when moused over.

Although not an exact match for the features you describe, you might
want to consider this pair of plugins:

http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CommentPlugin
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#DiscussionPlugin

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

[Eric Weir]

okido wrote:
> Maybe yo could use the annotationsplugin from lewcid.
>

Thanks, Okido. I remember encountering it in the Lewcid repository. I'll
check it out.

And you have a nice day.

Sincerely,

[Eric Weir]

Eric Shulman wrote:
> Although not an exact match for the features you describe, you might
> want to consider this pair of plugins:
>
> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CommentPlugin
> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#DiscussionPlugin
>

Thanks, Eric. I've been kind of curious about Discussion. I'll check
them out.

Sincerely,

[FND]

Just for the record, there's some more info on the community wiki:
http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Reader_Comments

-- F.

[Eric Weir]

FND wrote:
> Just for the record, there's some more info on the community wiki:
> http://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Reader_Comments
>

Thanks. I checked out the references there, but I think Eric's
DiscussionPlugin is going to work for me.

[Anthony Muscio]

I am using;
http://tw.lewcid.org/#TiddlerNotesPlugin

Concept:

• The TiddlerNotesPlugin allows you to add notes to tiddlers, without needing to edit the original tiddler. This means that your original content will remain unaltered, and if you update it in the future, you won't lose your notes. Notes are stored in separate tiddlers, but can be viewed and edited from within the original tiddler.
• For a tiddler titled "MySlide", the notes are by default saved in a tiddler titled "MySlide-Notes" and is given a tag of "Notes". The suffix and tags of the notes tiddlers are customizable. You can have one or multiple notes per tiddlers. So it is possible to have for example, teacher's notes and student's notes in the same file.
• Notes can be configured to start off blank, or pre-filled with the contents of the original tiddler.

I use the viewTemplate method with a check box that tags the current tiddler as notated
<span macro="toggleTag notated . '№'"></span>

And <div class='viewer' macro='notes'></div>
to display


TonyM

--
TonyM

If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed something.
www.tiddlywiki.com

[Eric Weir]

Anthony Muscio wrote:
> I am using;
> http://tw.lewcid.org/#TiddlerNotesPlugin
>
>
> Concept:
>

> * The TiddlerNotesPlugin allows you to add notes to tiddlers,

> without needing to edit the original tiddler. This means that
> your original content will remain unaltered, and if you update
> it in the future, you won't lose your notes. Notes are stored in
> separate tiddlers, but can be viewed and edited from within the
> original tiddler.

> * For a tiddler titled "MySlide", the notes are by default saved

> in a tiddler titled "MySlide-Notes" and is given a tag of
> "Notes". The suffix and tags of the notes tiddlers are
> customizable. You can have one or multiple notes per tiddlers.
> So it is possible to have for example, teacher's notes and
> student's notes in the same file.

> * Notes can be configured to start off blank, or pre-filled with

> the contents of the original tiddler.
>

Thanks, Tony. I never noticed this at Lewcid. It looks even closer to
what I was looking for. I'll check it out.

[Eric Weir]

On 10/6/2008 Eric Shulman wrote:
>> Is there a plugin that would allow one to attach notes or comments to a
>> displayed tiddler -- the would reference in some way what specifically
>> is being commented on, that could be appended without opening the
>> tiddler for editing, that would display only when moused over.
>>
>
> Although not an exact match for the features you describe, you might
> want to consider this pair of plugins:
>
> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CommentPlugin
> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#DiscussionPlugin

I've installed the DiscussionPlugin into a basic TW tweaked with K2WS
theme, CoreTweaksPlugin, FileDropPlugin, SaveAsPlugin,
SplitTiddlerPlugin, and YourSearchPlugin. I'm not using a custom
viewTemplate and I elected to have the plugin modify the standard
viewTemplate.

After saving and reloading, however, I don't get the tiddlers tabbed
with "page" and "discussion."

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

[Eric Shulman]

> >    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CommentPlugin
> >    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#DiscussionPlugin
>
> I've installed the DiscussionPlugin into a basic TW tweaked with K2WS
> theme, CoreTweaksPlugin, FileDropPlugin, SaveAsPlugin,
> SplitTiddlerPlugin, and YourSearchPlugin. I'm not using a custom
> viewTemplate and I elected to have the plugin modify the standard
> viewTemplate.
>
> After saving and reloading, however, I don't get the tiddlers tabbed
> with "page" and "discussion."

I don't see CommentPlugin in your list. DiscussionPlugin is built on
top of CommentPlugin. Both are needed.

I also did a test:
TW241 + K2WS + CommentPlugin + DiscussionPlugin + CoreTweaks
works as expected (the "Page" and "Discussion" tabs appear), and the
other plugins you listed should have no effect on the ViewTemplate
definition, so I'm fairly certain they wouldn't cause a problem.

Are you *certain* that you don't have a custom ViewTemplate tiddler
definition?

-e

[Eric Weir]

On 10/13/2008 Eric Shulman wrote:

> I don't see CommentPlugin in your list. DiscussionPlugin is built on
> top of CommentPlugin. Both are needed.
>
> I also did a test:
> TW241 + K2WS + CommentPlugin + DiscussionPlugin + CoreTweaks
> works as expected (the "Page" and "Discussion" tabs appear), and the
> other plugins you listed should have no effect on the ViewTemplate
> definition, so I'm fairly certain they wouldn't cause a problem.
>
> Are you *certain* that you don't have a custom ViewTemplate tiddler
> definition?

Thanks, Eric. As I said to wolfgang, I don't know how I missed this when
you posted.

In any case, yes, CommentPlugin was missing. However, after installing
it I still didn't get the tabbed tiddlers. And I couldn't find a custom
ViewTemplate. So I started over from scratch, downloaded an empty TW,
imported the plugins mentioned in the post to which you responded plus
CommentPlugin. After saving and reloading it tabbed tiddlers showed up.

I forgot to mention that I had TiddlersBarPlugin installed. I didn't
import it when I created the new TW. Could that have been the source of
the problem?

Now I have a very useful TW, a database of information on private
foundations that I can now annotate and share with colleagues and that
they can comment on, too. [When I my problems uploading to tiddlyspot
solved, I'll put it there so they can have online access to it.]

Sincerely,