Thanks to Eric and preview of a new use for TagglyTags and TagCloudPlugin

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

A big thanks to TiddlyTools Eric for so quickly updating his
TagCloudPlugin to accomodate my request yesterday. Now it can work in
conjunction with TagglyTags to show the relative frequency of tiddlers
that have a tag associated with a higher level tag. It's easier to
show you than to explain it, so here is the way in which I used it.

I think you will find this a novel use of TiddlyWiki. My tiddlers have
no content. I am just using tags to create a mini database so that I
can locate and tabulate categories on a topic. In this case, I am
listing all the themes, literary elements, etc of the biblical book of
1 Peter. It's not quite done, but for the purpose of seeing the tag
cloud in action, it's far enough along.

My apologies to Eric but I wanted some color and font size changes so
I modified his plugin. Maybe there is a way to do that in the
Stylesheet directly. But for now I just changed the name of the plugin
and went with it.

http://www.giffmex.org/nttag/1petertags.html

Blessings,

Dave Gifford

[Eric Shulman]

> My apologies to Eric but I wanted some color and font size changes so
> I modified his plugin. Maybe there is a way to do that in the
> Stylesheet directly.

Just put the modified CSS rules into your StyleSheet, like this:

.tagCloud span{height: 3.5em; margin: 10px; padding: 10px; width:
300px;}
.tagCloud1{font-size: 100%; font-weight: bold; padding-left: 10px;
color: #8800ee;}
.tagCloud2{font-size: 140%; font-weight: bold; padding-left: 10px;
color: #3355ff;}
.tagCloud3{font-size: 180%; font-weight: bold; padding-left: 10px;
color: #33bb00;}
.tagCloud4{font-size: 220%; font-weight: bold; padding-left: 10px;
color: #ff9900;}
.tagCloud5{font-size: 260%; font-weight: bold; padding-left: 10px;
color: #ff5511;}
.tagCloud6{font-size: 300%; font-weight: bold; padding-left: 10px;
color: #ff3300;}

When TagCloudPlugin is initialized (during startup), it automatically
defines the default styles for the tag cloud display. Then, after all
the plugins are processed, the TW core loads the StyleSheet CSS...
including your custom changes to the .tagCloud* class definitions,
which is applied as an *overlay* on top of the plugin-defined hard-
coded defaults.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hey Eric, can you tell me what I did wrong installing your
ToggleRightSidebar? I have InlineJavascriptPlugin installed.
systemConfig tag is in place. I refreshed. What is wrong with it? I
only changed the config option to false. Other than that I didn't make
any intentional change.

Dave

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Never mind, I figured out that it wasn't actually a plugin, so the
systemConfig tag was the problem.

Dave

[Morris Gray]

> I think you will find this a novel use of TiddlyWiki. My tiddlers have no
> content. I am just using tags to create a mini database so that I can
> locate and tabulate categories on a topic. In this case, I am listing all
> the themes, literary elements, etc of the biblical book of 1 Peter. It's
> not quite done, but for the purpose of seeing the tag cloud in action,
> it's far enough along.

A fantastic job Dave. It's not only a good demonstration of
TagglyTags but the innovation of combining TagCloud, and coloured at
that, helps create a true kaleidoscope of information management :-)

I would hope one day to see this with the content filled in. It would
serve a an inspirational model on several planes, from technical to
theological.

Well done (with appropriate credit to Eric as well)

Morris

On Sep 6, 11:33 pm, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

[Dave Parker]

Hey Dave,

This is probably a dumb question, but are you going to include the
verses eventually? If so (I'm assuming so) I'm interested in how
you're going to present them... each verse a tiddler? A long time ago
I was thinking of somehow being able to link to a verse and show it
(like I'd imagine you'll be doing with this tool of yours), but from
there have some sort of "previous 5 verses" "next 5 verses" in the
toolbar for that tiddler. The problem was: if you click "previous
verses" how do you get the tiddlers to appear in sequence immediately
above the one from which you click that button? Another question is
Do you assign all the verses a number from 1 to 374 (or whatever),
ignoring chapter and verse numbers, or what?

anyway, will you post here when you finish (please)?

Looking forward to seeing more...
-Dave Parker

ps, cool idea! I'd love to see a tiddlywiki as "dynamic powerpoint"
tool used in an actual sunday service where the pastor could mix his
points with links to actual scripture (maybe with a different colored
background) and analysis such as you've presented here - you could get
pretty in-depth, yet keep the message understandable with such a
visual medium.

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hi Dave and Morris

No, I don't have plans to add the verses because that would involve
copyright violations or would require me to acquire an expensive
license, and I want my resources to be free. Thankfully most English-
speaking Christians have a Bible or two that they can consult, or even
Bible software. So I don't feel they are put out too much.

I may add links to Bible Gateway as I have for other resources. That
would be very easy to do, and I am currently doing it in the new
Spanish resources I am preparing.

As for how I do the verse assignments, as you can see, each verse or
verses has its own tiddler, with a Sentences tag, because I am
dividing up the material by Greek sentences, not verses per se.

I imagine two uses for this:

1. Someone wanting to familiarize themselves with the themes for the
book will access the six indexes, see at a glance the major themes,
etc, and pick the themes they want to study in depth, and look up in
their Bibles the verses listed.

2. Someone preparing a study or sermon on a passage will access the
verses they are studying via the Sentences tiddler on the Sidebar, and
see what themes, literary elements, etc, appear at the top of the
tiddler for those tiddlers.

Of course if someone wants to add the Bible text on their own, or add
their own notes for a verse, then the resource also serves as a pre-
preprared frame for their own commentary on 1 Peter.

I will make those instructions clearer when I finish a few items that
are still undone on the resource.

Thanks both for the kind comments. Blessings to you.

Dave

[Chris W]

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
> No, I don't have plans to add the verses because that would involve
> copyright violations or would require me to acquire an expensive
> license, and I want my resources to be free.

The King James Bible is not in copyright, and can be had here:
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/7999
Or the World English Bible:
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/8294

BTW: nice use of TW :)

[Alex Hough]

congratulations.
its a great idea
alex

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Hi guys

Alex: I've never been too keen on the King James, and I checked out
the World English Bible and was not that thrilled with it either.
sooo......

All: I decided to add links to Bible Gateway's NIV text for each verse
in each verse tiddler. I also cleaned up the instructions, made some
progress in the literary aspects, removed the overly technical
curiosity "Person and number", added history plugin, changed the look
of the tags in viewtemplate, and began to alphabetize the tags for
each verse tiddler. I hope to make more progress on Weds afternoon,
but tomorrow and Weds' classes bear upon me now.

That link again is http://www.giffmex.org/nttag/1petertags.html

Blessings,

Dave

[Dave Parker]

Thanks for adding that Dave - it helps out we who have short attention
spans (its a long way over to the bookshelf! (too many clicks to the
internet bible?))


Dave

On Sep 8, 9:24 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"
<giff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys
>
> Alex: I've never been too keen on theKingJames, and I checked out

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

By the way, the English version is now complete.

Dave

[Morris Gray]

On Sep 11, 6:26 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

<giff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> By the way, the English version is now complete.

Now that was a very worthwhile effort Dave. It is truly useful now -
a great achievement.

I think you will soon be worthy of the title: 'The Gutenberg of the
TiddlyWiki".

Morris



On Sep 11, 6:26 am, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/"

[Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/]

Thanks Dave and Morris!

Dave