I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table
cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor.
Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit
content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a
tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
MathCell of Bradley Meck also has spreadsheet functionality, but
hasn't been maintained for a long time. So that might not be
compatible with TW 2.3.0 anymore:
> I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table
> cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor.
> Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit
> content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a
> tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
> I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table
> cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor.
> Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit
> content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a
> tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
*generates* a grid (table) that displays tiddler slice values and
includes an "edit-in-place" feature: click a value in a grid cell and
it changes to an edit field. Type your input. Press enter (or click
away). The value you input is then written back to the corresponding
tiddler slice.
Note that, currently, this feature only works within SliceGridPlugin's
generated tables. However, I am working on a re-factoring my edit-in-
place code into a separate "EditableTablePlugin" so that it CAN be
used with ANY table.
> MathCell of Bradley Meck also has spreadsheet functionality, but
> hasn't been maintained for a long time. So that might not be
> compatible with TW 2.3.0 anymore:
> On 26 Dez., 23:30, pepebe <pep...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Greetings ladies and gentlemen.
> > I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table
> > cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor.
> > Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit
> > content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a
> > tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
Wow, if you could really make this work in ANY table, that would be absolutely wonderful ! Today, having to create a big number of useless tiddlers somewhere, with multiple slices, only to render it edit-in-place-able via SliceGridPlugin is quite cumbersome when your table's size is, say, 25*300. And editing the tiddler is very difficult if you have small cells, for exemple :
|Pears|Apples|....(so on for 25 fruits) |4|4|7|2|8|... (so on for 25 values)
and it is the 19th in the row you want to edit... at the end of the day, my eyes cry for mercy ;D
Great job indeed anyway ! Nicolas.
On Dec 26, 2007 11:55 PM, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table > > cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor. > > Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit > > content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a > > tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
> *generates* a grid (table) that displays tiddler slice values and > includes an "edit-in-place" feature: click a value in a grid cell and > it changes to an edit field. Type your input. Press enter (or click > away). The value you input is then written back to the corresponding > tiddler slice.
> Note that, currently, this feature only works within SliceGridPlugin's > generated tables. However, I am working on a re-factoring my edit-in- > place code into a separate "EditableTablePlugin" so that it CAN be > used with ANY table.
> I let you know when it's available.
> -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
@Eric: Came back here today a noticed your post. Thanks! Well, an
"EditableTablePlugin" would be wonderful, really. Since I'm working a
lot with "SortableGrid" I hope it would be compatible though. Do you
think there would be any issues?
Greetings, pepebe
On 26 Dez. 2007, 23:55, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table
> > cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor.
> > Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit
> > content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a
> > tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
> *generates* a grid (table) that displays tiddler slice values and
> includes an "edit-in-place" feature: click a value in a grid cell and
> it changes to an edit field. Type your input. Press enter (or click
> away). The value you input is then written back to the corresponding
> tiddler slice.
> Note that, currently, this feature only works within SliceGridPlugin's
> generated tables. However, I am working on a re-factoring my edit-in-
> place code into a separate "EditableTablePlugin" so that it CAN be
> used with ANY table.
> I let you know when it's available.
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
I was just wondering if you had any idea of how soon in the future you planned on working on/releasing the EditableTablePlugin (see bottom of your post below) Please, do note take this as a personal request for more work from you on TW, as I can already hardly believe how much you contribute to it already... ;)
In fact, I was just wondering if this was a distant idea in your mind or something you were already working on today, to know if it was worth waiting (even a couple more months or 6 months, I don't care) before starting a new task on my side that is going to involve a very large (>100) number of tables. This task is not urgent (well, it has to be finished some day, in like 9 months), but it might spare me so much time once this miraculous plugin would be released that I could wait a long time before starting the task, if only I knew you were to publish it in a "not-further-than-6-months" delay.
Thanks again for your great work anyway
-Nicolas
On Dec 26, 2007 11:55 PM, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table > > cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor. > > Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit > > content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a > > tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
> *generates* a grid (table) that displays tiddler slice values and > includes an "edit-in-place" feature: click a value in a grid cell and > it changes to an edit field. Type your input. Press enter (or click > away). The value you input is then written back to the corresponding > tiddler slice.
> Note that, currently, this feature only works within SliceGridPlugin's > generated tables. However, I am working on a re-factoring my edit-in- > place code into a separate "EditableTablePlugin" so that it CAN be > used with ANY table.
> I let you know when it's available.
> -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
It seems quit a while already but if any one is still interested, I have just released a TableEdit plugin that might do the job. You can visit my TiddlySpace at qmowcy2.tiddlyspace.com, find the TableEdit tiddler in the Public section. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
On Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:41:04 AM UTC+8, Nicolas S. wrote:
> Good evening Eric,
> I was just wondering if you had any idea of how soon in the future you > planned on working on/releasing the EditableTablePlugin (see bottom of your > post below)
> Please, do note take this as a personal request for more work from you on > TW, as I can already hardly believe how much you contribute to it > already... ;)
> In fact, I was just wondering if this was a distant idea in your mind or > something you were already working on today, to know if it was worth > waiting (even a couple more months or 6 months, I don't care) before > starting a new task on my side that is going to involve a very large (>100) > number of tables. This task is not urgent (well, it has to be finished some > day, in like 9 months), but it might spare me so much time once this > miraculous plugin would be released that I could wait a long time before > starting the task, if only I knew you were to publish it in a > "not-further-than-6-months" delay.
> Thanks again for your great work anyway
> -Nicolas
> On Dec 26, 2007 11:55 PM, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table
>> > cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor.
>> > Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit >> > content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a
>> > tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
>> *generates* a grid (table) that displays tiddler slice values and
>> includes an "edit-in-place" feature: click a value in a grid cell and
>> it changes to an edit field. Type your input. Press enter (or click >> away). The value you input is then written back to the corresponding
>> tiddler slice.
>> Note that, currently, this feature only works within SliceGridPlugin's
>> generated tables. However, I am working on a re-factoring my edit-in- >> place code into a separate "EditableTablePlugin" so that it CAN be
>> used with ANY table.
>> I let you know when it's available.
>> -e
>> Eric Shulman
>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin and tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
THANKS FOR GIVING IT A GO TOO! this will be AMAZING if accomplished.
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 12:28:04 PM UTC-5, Vincent Yeh wrote:
> Dear All,
> It seems quit a while already but if any one is still interested, I have > just released a TableEdit plugin that might do the job. You can visit my > TiddlySpace at qmowcy2.tiddlyspace.com, find the TableEdit tiddler in the > Public section. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
> Best,
> Vincent
> On Wednesday, January 16, 2008 3:41:04 AM UTC+8, Nicolas S. wrote:
>> Good evening Eric,
>> I was just wondering if you had any idea of how soon in the future you >> planned on working on/releasing the EditableTablePlugin (see bottom of your >> post below) >> Please, do note take this as a personal request for more work from you on >> TW, as I can already hardly believe how much you contribute to it >> already... ;)
>> In fact, I was just wondering if this was a distant idea in your mind or >> something you were already working on today, to know if it was worth >> waiting (even a couple more months or 6 months, I don't care) before >> starting a new task on my side that is going to involve a very large (>100) >> number of tables. This task is not urgent (well, it has to be finished some >> day, in like 9 months), but it might spare me so much time once this >> miraculous plugin would be released that I could wait a long time before >> starting the task, if only I knew you were to publish it in a >> "not-further-than-6-months" delay.
>> Thanks again for your great work anyway
>> -Nicolas
>> On Dec 26, 2007 11:55 PM, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I'm looking for a plugin which allows to edit the content of a table >>> > cell in a tiddlywiki simply by clicking it with your mouse cursor. >>> > Especially in big tables, it would be much more convenient to edit >>> > content that way. As far as I can remember I once stumbled upon a >>> > tiddylwiki with exact that feature, yet I can't find it any more.
>>> *generates* a grid (table) that displays tiddler slice values and >>> includes an "edit-in-place" feature: click a value in a grid cell and >>> it changes to an edit field. Type your input. Press enter (or click >>> away). The value you input is then written back to the corresponding >>> tiddler slice.
>>> Note that, currently, this feature only works within SliceGridPlugin's >>> generated tables. However, I am working on a re-factoring my edit-in- >>> place code into a separate "EditableTablePlugin" so that it CAN be >>> used with ANY table.
>>> I let you know when it's available.
>>> -e >>> Eric Shulman >>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote:
> Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin and
> tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were
> editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing
events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global
variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to
process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed*
to the handler as a parameter.
The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a
variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the
global 'event' variable.
enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
This really helped out ...some... I can now get it to work via IE but even with the code change ff doesn't like it. Also I can not get the edits to STAY...i can click on the cell and change the data but then how do I save the edit? it does not actually change the data to the new inputted data.
Example:
r1c2 if I click on it it gives me the cell area to change the data, then it says to press enter or click...I do both but no change. what am I missing?
On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: > > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin and > > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were > > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing > events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global > variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to > process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* > to the handler as a parameter.
> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a > variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the > global 'event' variable.
> enjoy, > -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: > > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin and > > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were > > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing > events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global > variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to > process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* > to the handler as a parameter.
> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a > variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the > global 'event' variable.
> enjoy, > -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were trying to do.
So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: > > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin and > > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were > > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing > events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global > variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to > process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* > to the handler as a parameter.
> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a > variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the > global 'event' variable.
> enjoy, > -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I would like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there anyway for that to be done?
On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
> spamming...sorry
> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 > (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this > plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were > trying to do.
> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin >> and >> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >> to the handler as a parameter.
>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >> global 'event' variable.
>> enjoy, >> -e >> Eric Shulman >> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on more experienced people to do that.
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I would > like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there anyway > for that to be done?
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>> spamming...sorry
>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 >> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this >> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were >> trying to do.
>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin >>> and >>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >>> global 'event' variable.
>>> enjoy, >>> -e >>> Eric Shulman >>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
That does make sense, and I really really appreciate the time effort and replys you have provided!
Maybe I can provide SOME insight into what I am trying to accomplish and help this along the way. I am using a second plugin called "upload plugin" (http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#UploadPlugin) There is a "macro" that is for "save to web" that would (i think) need to be pointed to for the enter function you created. So instead of it trying to "save" it will just punch save to web instead? I don't know...
On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:09:22 PM UTC-5, Vincent Yeh wrote:
> Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for > your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I > have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web > things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and > would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
> Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
> I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin > (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz > and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to > work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next > time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not > have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on > more experienced people to do that.
> Vincent
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
>> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
>> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I would >> like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there anyway >> for that to be done?
>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>>> spamming...sorry
>>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 >>> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this >>> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were >>> trying to do.
>>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >>>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin >>>> and >>>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >>>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >>>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >>>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >>>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >>>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >>>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >>>> global 'event' variable.
>>>> enjoy, >>>> -e >>>> Eric Shulman >>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
Thanks for pointing out one possibility. I just had a quick look at that
plugin but hadn't got the point yet. I will need some more time on this. Thanks
again for the direction.
> That does make sense, and I really really appreciate the time effort and
> replys you have provided!
> Maybe I can provide SOME insight into what I am trying to accomplish and
> help this along the way. I am using a second plugin called "upload plugin" (
> http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#UploadPlugin) There is a "macro" that is
> for "save to web" that would (i think) need to be pointed to for the enter
> function you created. So instead of it trying to "save" it will just punch
> save to web instead? I don't know...
> Thank you very very much!
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:09:22 PM UTC-5, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>> Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for
>> your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I
>> have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web
>> things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and
>> would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
>> Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
>> I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin
>> (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz
>> and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to
>> work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next
>> time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not
>> have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on
>> more experienced people to do that.
>> Vincent
>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
>>> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
>>> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I would
>>> like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there anyway
>>> for that to be done?
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>>>> spamming...sorry
>>>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8
>>>> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this
>>>> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were
>>>> trying to do.
>>>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin
>>>>> and
>>>>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were
>>>>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing
>>>>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global
>>>>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to
>>>>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed*
>>>>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a
>>>>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the
>>>>> global 'event' variable.
>>>>> enjoy,
>>>>> -e
>>>>> Eric Shulman
>>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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On Friday, June 29, 2012 11:58:15 AM UTC-5, Vincent Yeh wrote:
> Dear Anthony,
> Thanks for pointing out one possibility. I just had a quick look at that > plugin but hadn't got the point yet. I will need some more time on this. Thanks > again for the direction.
> Vincent
> anthony 於 2012年6月28日星期四寫道:
>> That does make sense, and I really really appreciate the time effort and >> replys you have provided!
>> Maybe I can provide SOME insight into what I am trying to accomplish and >> help this along the way. I am using a second plugin called "upload plugin" (
>> http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#UploadPlugin) There is a "macro" that is >> for "save to web" that would (i think) need to be pointed to for the enter >> function you created. So instead of it trying to "save" it will just punch >> save to web instead? I don't know...
>> Thank you very very much!
>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:09:22 PM UTC-5, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>>> Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for >>> your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I >>> have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web >>> things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and >>> would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
>>> Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
>>> I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin >>> (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz >>> and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to >>> work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next >>> time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not >>> have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on >>> more experienced people to do that.
>>> Vincent
>>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
>>>> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
>>>> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I >>>> would like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there >>>> anyway for that to be done?
>>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>>>>> spamming...sorry
>>>>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 >>>>> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this >>>>> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were >>>>> trying to do.
>>>>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>>>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >>>>>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the >>>>>> plugin and >>>>>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >>>>>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>>>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>>>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >>>>>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >>>>>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >>>>>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >>>>>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>>>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>>>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >>>>>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >>>>>> global 'event' variable.
>>>>>> enjoy, >>>>>> -e >>>>>> Eric Shulman >>>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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On my computer the only browser that works just as expected is Google Chrome and no one else.
- FF doesn't respond to mouse clicking so no way to start editing. - IE9 doesn't respond correctly to <Enter> and <Cancel> so the edit box won't go away. Looks like it has problems saving the file. - TWEdit on the iPad gives me the rendered HTML codes instead of wikitext. For example, the TableEdit plugin receives <span style="color:red;">text in red</span> instead of the expected @@color:red;text in red@@.
Hmmmmmmmmm, I have no idea about these at all! I shall need a lot of time to fix them. If some has any idea to fix one of those, please help to speed up!. Thanks a lot!
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:09:22 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
> Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for > your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I > have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web > things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and > would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
> Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
> I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin > (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz > and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to > work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next > time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not > have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on > more experienced people to do that.
> Vincent
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
>> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
>> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I would >> like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there anyway >> for that to be done?
>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>>> spamming...sorry
>>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 >>> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this >>> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were >>> trying to do.
>>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >>>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin >>>> and >>>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >>>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >>>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >>>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >>>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >>>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >>>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >>>> global 'event' variable.
>>>> enjoy, >>>> -e >>>> Eric Shulman >>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
On Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:46:21 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
> On my computer the only browser that works just as expected is Google > Chrome and no one else.
> - FF doesn't respond to mouse clicking so no way to start editing. > - IE9 doesn't respond correctly to <Enter> and <Cancel> so the edit > box won't go away. Looks like it has problems saving the file. > - TWEdit on the iPad gives me the rendered HTML codes instead of > wikitext. For example, the TableEdit plugin receives <span > style="color:red;">text in red</span> instead of the expected > @@color:red;text in red@@.
> Hmmmmmmmmm, I have no idea about these at all! I shall need a lot of time > to fix them. If some has any idea to fix one of those, please help to speed > up!. Thanks a lot!
> Vincent
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:09:22 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>> Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for >> your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I >> have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web >> things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and >> would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
>> Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
>> I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin >> (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz >> and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to >> work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next >> time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not >> have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on >> more experienced people to do that.
>> Vincent
>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
>>> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
>>> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I would >>> like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there anyway >>> for that to be done?
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>>>> spamming...sorry
>>>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 >>>> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this >>>> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were >>>> trying to do.
>>>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >>>>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin >>>>> and >>>>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >>>>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >>>>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >>>>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >>>>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >>>>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >>>>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >>>>> global 'event' variable.
>>>>> enjoy, >>>>> -e >>>>> Eric Shulman >>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
On Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:08:38 PM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
> That does make sense, and I really really appreciate the time effort and > replys you have provided!
> Maybe I can provide SOME insight into what I am trying to accomplish and > help this along the way. I am using a second plugin called "upload plugin" ( > http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#UploadPlugin) There is a "macro" that is > for "save to web" that would (i think) need to be pointed to for the enter > function you created. So instead of it trying to "save" it will just punch > save to web instead? I don't know...
> Thank you very very much!
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 8:09:22 PM UTC-5, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>> Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for >> your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I >> have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web >> things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and >> would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
>> Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
>> I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin >> (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz >> and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to >> work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next >> time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not >> have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on >> more experienced people to do that.
>> Vincent
>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
>>> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
>>> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I would >>> like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there anyway >>> for that to be done?
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>>>> spamming...sorry
>>>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 >>>> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this >>>> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were >>>> trying to do.
>>>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >>>>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the plugin >>>>> and >>>>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >>>>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >>>>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >>>>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >>>>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >>>>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >>>>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >>>>> global 'event' variable.
>>>>> enjoy, >>>>> -e >>>>> Eric Shulman >>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
I might have figured a way to support the UploadPlugin you mentioned, but I have no way test it because I am not using any web based tiddlywiki. Can you test it for me? It is in the same place in my tiddlyspace qmowcy2.tiddlyspace.com.
Added a couple of new features and fixed some bugs.
Major changes:
- Enable/disable edit mode. - A small button labeled "E" is attached to the top-right corner of the table (with class "editable", still). - Click that "E" button to enable/disable edit mode for that table. - Allow insertion and deletion of rows and columns anywhere in the table. - Some buttons (ugly, I know) at the right side and bottom of the table.
Please give it a try. Comments/suggestions are welcome!
On Sunday, July 1, 2012 3:59:13 PM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
> Fixed the FF and IE9 issues mentioned below. Hopefully it should be > working fine in Chrome, FireFox and IE9 on desktops.
> Problems with TWEdit on the iPad still remain...
> Vincent
> On Sunday, July 1, 2012 9:46:21 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>> On my computer the only browser that works just as expected is Google >> Chrome and no one else.
>> - FF doesn't respond to mouse clicking so no way to start editing. >> - IE9 doesn't respond correctly to <Enter> and <Cancel> so the edit >> box won't go away. Looks like it has problems saving the file. >> - TWEdit on the iPad gives me the rendered HTML codes instead of >> wikitext. For example, the TableEdit plugin receives <span >> style="color:red;">text in red</span> instead of the expected >> @@color:red;text in red@@.
>> Hmmmmmmmmm, I have no idea about these at all! I shall need a lot of time >> to fix them. If some has any idea to fix one of those, please help to speed >> up!. Thanks a lot!
>> Vincent
>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:09:22 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote:
>>> Anthony, thank you for trying the plugin and giving feedbacks. And for >>> your last question on uploading, I have no idea how to do that currently (I >>> have experiences in programming but not much in javascript and the web >>> things.) It will take me sometime to figure out. If someone has answers and >>> would like to contribute, it will be highly appreciated.
>>> Eric, thank you for pointing out the key point which I never knew myself.
>>> I have been using Google Chrome for the development of this plugin >>> (inspired by and modified from TableSortingPlugin v2.0.2 by Saq Imtiaz >>> and GridPlugin v2.0.7 by Eric Shulman. Many thanks to them.) It seems to >>> work just fine for me and I turned out to forget about other browsers. Next >>> time I will try them out myself but as mentioned above most likely I do not >>> have the knowledge to fix the cross-browser things. I shall be relying on >>> more experienced people to do that.
>>> Vincent
>>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 2:05:25 AM UTC+8, anthony wrote:
>>>> Last question...sorry for so much spam...
>>>> I am using this wiki as a webbased system, when I edit the table I >>>> would like for it to upload to the web versus to a local file...is there >>>> anyway for that to be done?
>>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:55:56 PM UTC-5, anthony wrote:
>>>>> spamming...sorry
>>>>> I fixed the issue with IE, it was a version issue. I was using IE8 >>>>> (preferred over here) but upgraded to 9 and it is working PERFECTLY. this >>>>> plugin is going to make our tiddlywiki amazing in terms of what we were >>>>> trying to do.
>>>>> So in short I think IE8 may not work properly with this plugin.
>>>>> On Monday, June 25, 2012 12:22:23 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 25, 8:23 am, anthony <i...@ufocomputerservices.com> wrote: >>>>>> > Just tried your plugin...am I missing something? I loaded the >>>>>> plugin and >>>>>> > tried your example both on my tiddly and yours and neither were >>>>>> > editable...maybe I am just missing something though.
>>>>>> The plugin works in IE, but not in FF or other browsers.
>>>>>> The reason is because IE uses a different method of processing >>>>>> events. In IE, all events are processed by first setting a global >>>>>> variable "event" and then invoking the appropriate onclick handler to >>>>>> process the event. However, in other browsers, the event is *passed* >>>>>> to the handler as a parameter.
>>>>>> The plugin problem arises due to this line of code:
>>>>>> This allows non-IE browsers to properly use the passed in event as a >>>>>> variable named 'ev', while IE continues to fallback to using the >>>>>> global 'event' variable.
>>>>>> enjoy, >>>>>> -e >>>>>> Eric Shulman >>>>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
Do you mean my TableEdit--Example tiddler? I though I made it private!
Well, I just removed the <<sum...>> macro and made it public, you can try
it again.
The <<sum...>> macro is defined in another TableCalculator plugin which is
under development and not yet released.
Vincent
2012/7/5 Craig in Calgary <craig.prich...@gmail.com>
> Where is the <<sum...>> definition used in your example tiddler?
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