This is yet a very beautiful thing you've made !!!
I can't wait to implement it somehow - in my existing TWs.
Links:
I was wondering - How do you use links from the graph nodes?
Do I really have to doubleclick (thereby opening the graphcontaining
tiddler in editmode) to go to a tiddler with a title of a node... Is
there another way?
Zooming:
Also I need some intuitive way of centering the display of the zoom on
a specific node - not to loose the sight of the graph ---
Do you know Gimp? It has a terrific zoom practice - but it needs the
keyboard. You simply let the mouse stay on a spot in an image and you
zoom with + and - keeping what's under the mouse in the center. It's
very intuitive - unfortunately we don't have two mouses when
navigating in a TW - so choosing a center with a click on a node
followed by a click on + or - might be the solution for a controlled
zoom?
Importing:
I still haven't put the plugin into one of my TW's yet - which
tiddlers should I import? Only these three: VGraphPlugin,
VismoGraphAlgorithms and VismoLibraryPlugin?
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 23 Okt., 15:59, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mans,
There is a parameter labelMacro that I've built so you can extend the
graph in anyway you choose.
For instance you could set up a tiddler tagged with systemConfig as
so:
config.macros.linkLabelMacro {handler: function
(place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)
}};
and then use:
<<VGraph labelMacro:linkLabelMacro>>
and all labels in the graph would be rendered as links using that
macro just created.
You should be able to zoom using your mousewheel.. (possibly not if
you use Internet Explorer however as this has proved quite buggy)
The three tiddlers you have mentioned should be all you need to setup
your own instance.
Cheers
Jon
On Oct 23, 3:54 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is yet a very beautiful thing you've made !!!
> I can't wait to implement it somehow - in my existing TWs.
> Links:
> I was wondering - How do you use links from the graph nodes?
> Do I really have to doubleclick (thereby opening the graphcontaining
> tiddler in editmode) to go to a tiddler with a title of a node... Is
> there another way?
> Zooming:
> Also I need some intuitive way of centering the display of the zoom on
> a specific node - not to loose the sight of the graph ---
> Do you know Gimp? It has a terrific zoom practice - but it needs the
> keyboard. You simply let the mouse stay on a spot in an image and you
> zoom with + and - keeping what's under the mouse in the center. It's
> very intuitive - unfortunately we don't have two mouses when
> navigating in a TW - so choosing a center with a click on a node
> followed by a click on + or - might be the solution for a controlled
> zoom?
> Importing:
> I still haven't put the plugin into one of my TW's yet - which
> tiddlers should I import? Only these three: VGraphPlugin,
> VismoGraphAlgorithms and VismoLibraryPlugin?
> YS Måns Mårtensson
> On 23 Okt., 15:59, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mans,
> There is a parameter labelMacro that I've built so you can extend the
> graph in anyway you choose.
> For instance you could set up a tiddler tagged with systemConfig as
> so:
> config.macros.linkLabelMacro {handler: function
> (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> and then use:
> <<VGraph labelMacro:linkLabelMacro>>
> and all labels in the graph would be rendered as links using that
> macro just created.
> You should be able to zoom using your mousewheel.. (possibly not if
> you use Internet Explorer however as this has proved quite buggy)
> The three tiddlers you have mentioned should be all you need to setup
> your own instance.
> Cheers
> Jon
> On Oct 23, 3:54 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jon
> > This is yet a very beautiful thing you've made !!!
> > I can't wait to implement it somehow - in my existing TWs.
> > Links:
> > I was wondering - How do you use links from the graph nodes?
> > Do I really have to doubleclick (thereby opening the graphcontaining
> > tiddler in editmode) to go to a tiddler with a title of a node... Is
> > there another way?
> > Zooming:
> > Also I need some intuitive way of centering the display of the zoom on
> > a specific node - not to loose the sight of the graph ---
> > Do you know Gimp? It has a terrific zoom practice - but it needs the
> > keyboard. You simply let the mouse stay on a spot in an image and you
> > zoom with + and - keeping what's under the mouse in the center. It's
> > very intuitive - unfortunately we don't have two mouses when
> > navigating in a TW - so choosing a center with a click on a node
> > followed by a click on + or - might be the solution for a controlled
> > zoom?
> > Importing:
> > I still haven't put the plugin into one of my TW's yet - which
> > tiddlers should I import? Only these three: VGraphPlugin,
> > VismoGraphAlgorithms and VismoLibraryPlugin?
> > YS Måns Mårtensson
> > On 23 Okt., 15:59, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey visualisation fans,
> > > Would be really great if I could get some feedback on this graph
> > > plugin I am working on with the aim of improving/making
> > > TiddlyTagMindMap redundant:
> > > links:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/posts/VGraphhttp://www.jonrobson.me.uk/dev...
> > > Where should I focus my energies?
> > > Ta
> > > Jon
My bad.. amazing the difference a letter makes... put an equals sign
between LinkLabelMacro and {handler
like so:
config.macros.linkLabelMacro= {handler: function
(place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)
}};
Jon
On Oct 27, 11:31 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 27 Okt., 17:18, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Mans,
> > There is a parameter labelMacro that I've built so you can extend the
> > graph in anyway you choose.
> > For instance you could set up a tiddler tagged with systemConfig as
> > so:
> > config.macros.linkLabelMacro {handler: function
> > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> > and then use:
> > <<VGraph labelMacro:linkLabelMacro>>
> > and all labels in the graph would be rendered as links using that
> > macro just created.
> > You should be able to zoom using your mousewheel.. (possibly not if
> > you use Internet Explorer however as this has proved quite buggy)
> > The three tiddlers you have mentioned should be all you need to setup
> > your own instance.
> > Cheers
> > Jon
> > On Oct 23, 3:54 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Jon
> > > This is yet a very beautiful thing you've made !!!
> > > I can't wait to implement it somehow - in my existing TWs.
> > > Links:
> > > I was wondering - How do you use links from the graph nodes?
> > > Do I really have to doubleclick (thereby opening the graphcontaining
> > > tiddler in editmode) to go to a tiddler with a title of a node... Is
> > > there another way?
> > > Zooming:
> > > Also I need some intuitive way of centering the display of the zoom on
> > > a specific node - not to loose the sight of the graph ---
> > > Do you know Gimp? It has a terrific zoom practice - but it needs the
> > > keyboard. You simply let the mouse stay on a spot in an image and you
> > > zoom with + and - keeping what's under the mouse in the center. It's
> > > very intuitive - unfortunately we don't have two mouses when
> > > navigating in a TW - so choosing a center with a click on a node
> > > followed by a click on + or - might be the solution for a controlled
> > > zoom?
> > > Importing:
> > > I still haven't put the plugin into one of my TW's yet - which
> > > tiddlers should I import? Only these three: VGraphPlugin,
> > > VismoGraphAlgorithms and VismoLibraryPlugin?
> > > YS Måns Mårtensson
> > > On 23 Okt., 15:59, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hey visualisation fans,
> > > > Would be really great if I could get some feedback on this graph
> > > > plugin I am working on with the aim of improving/making
> > > > TiddlyTagMindMap redundant:
> > > > links:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/posts/VGraphhttp://www.jonrobson.me.uk/dev...
> > > > Where should I focus my energies?
> > > > Ta
> > > > Jon
I have borrowed a few parameters from TagmindmapPlugin trying to set
the height and width and"breadcrumbs"
I don't get a graph out of this..
What am I doing wrong?
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 29 Okt., 00:02, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My bad.. amazing the difference a letter makes... put an equals sign
> between LinkLabelMacro and {handler
> like so:
> config.macros.linkLabelMacro= {handler: function
> (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> Jon
> On Oct 27, 11:31 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jon
> > Sorry, but I'm not a programmer and I cant figure out why this doesn't
> > work - please tell me what to change:
> > On 27 Okt., 17:18, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Mans,
> > > There is a parameter labelMacro that I've built so you can extend the
> > > graph in anyway you choose.
> > > For instance you could set up a tiddler tagged with systemConfig as
> > > so:
> > > config.macros.linkLabelMacro {handler: function
> > > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > > wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> > > and then use:
> > > <<VGraph labelMacro:linkLabelMacro>>
> > > and all labels in the graph would be rendered as links using that
> > > macro just created.
> > > You should be able to zoom using your mousewheel.. (possibly not if
> > > you use Internet Explorer however as this has proved quite buggy)
> > > The three tiddlers you have mentioned should be all you need to setup
> > > your own instance.
> > > Cheers
> > > Jon
> > > On Oct 23, 3:54 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Jon
> > > > This is yet a very beautiful thing you've made !!!
> > > > I can't wait to implement it somehow - in my existing TWs.
> > > > Links:
> > > > I was wondering - How do you use links from the graph nodes?
> > > > Do I really have to doubleclick (thereby opening the graphcontaining
> > > > tiddler in editmode) to go to a tiddler with a title of a node... Is
> > > > there another way?
> > > > Zooming:
> > > > Also I need some intuitive way of centering the display of the zoom on
> > > > a specific node - not to loose the sight of the graph ---
> > > > Do you know Gimp? It has a terrific zoom practice - but it needs the
> > > > keyboard. You simply let the mouse stay on a spot in an image and you
> > > > zoom with + and - keeping what's under the mouse in the center. It's
> > > > very intuitive - unfortunately we don't have two mouses when
> > > > navigating in a TW - so choosing a center with a click on a node
> > > > followed by a click on + or - might be the solution for a controlled
> > > > zoom?
> > > > Importing:
> > > > I still haven't put the plugin into one of my TW's yet - which
> > > > tiddlers should I import? Only these three: VGraphPlugin,
> > > > VismoGraphAlgorithms and VismoLibraryPlugin?
> > > > > Hey visualisation fans,
> > > > > Would be really great if I could get some feedback on this graph
> > > > > plugin I am working on with the aim of improving/making
> > > > > TiddlyTagMindMap redundant:
> > > > > links:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/posts/VGraphhttp://www.jonrobson.me.uk/dev...
> > > > > Where should I focus my energies?
> > > > > Ta
> > > > > Jon
> I have borrowed a few parameters from TagmindmapPlugin trying to set
> the height and width and"breadcrumbs"
> I don't get a graph out of this..
> What am I doing wrong?
> > My bad.. amazing the difference a letter makes... put an equals sign
> > between LinkLabelMacro and {handler
> > like so:
> > config.macros.linkLabelMacro= {handler: function
> > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> > Jon
> > On Oct 27, 11:31 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Jon
> > > Sorry, but I'm not a programmer and I cant figure out why this doesn't
> > > work - please tell me what to change:
> > > On 27 Okt., 17:18, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Mans,
> > > > There is a parameter labelMacro that I've built so you can extend the
> > > > graph in anyway you choose.
> > > > For instance you could set up a tiddler tagged with systemConfig as
> > > > so:
> > > > config.macros.linkLabelMacro {handler: function
> > > > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > > > wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> > > > and then use:
> > > > <<VGraph labelMacro:linkLabelMacro>>
> > > > and all labels in the graph would be rendered as links using that
> > > > macro just created.
> > > > You should be able to zoom using your mousewheel.. (possibly not if
> > > > you use Internet Explorer however as this has proved quite buggy)
> > > > The three tiddlers you have mentioned should be all you need to setup
> > > > your own instance.
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Jon
> > > > On Oct 23, 3:54 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jon
> > > > > This is yet a very beautiful thing you've made !!!
> > > > > I can't wait to implement it somehow - in my existing TWs.
> > > > > Links:
> > > > > I was wondering - How do you use links from the graph nodes?
> > > > > Do I really have to doubleclick (thereby opening the graphcontaining
> > > > > tiddler in editmode) to go to a tiddler with a title of a node... Is
> > > > > there another way?
> > > > > Zooming:
> > > > > Also I need some intuitive way of centering the display of the zoom on
> > > > > a specific node - not to loose the sight of the graph ---
> > > > > Do you know Gimp? It has a terrific zoom practice - but it needs the
> > > > > keyboard. You simply let the mouse stay on a spot in an image and you
> > > > > zoom with + and - keeping what's under the mouse in the center. It's
> > > > > very intuitive - unfortunately we don't have two mouses when
> > > > > navigating in a TW - so choosing a center with a click on a node
> > > > > followed by a click on + or - might be the solution for a controlled
> > > > > zoom?
> > > > > Importing:
> > > > > I still haven't put the plugin into one of my TW's yet - which
> > > > > tiddlers should I import? Only these three: VGraphPlugin,
> > > > > VismoGraphAlgorithms and VismoLibraryPlugin?
> > > > > > Hey visualisation fans,
> > > > > > Would be really great if I could get some feedback on this graph
> > > > > > plugin I am working on with the aim of improving/making
> > > > > > TiddlyTagMindMap redundant:
> > > > > > links:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/posts/VGraphhttp://www.jonrobson.me.uk/dev...
> > > > > > Where should I focus my energies?
> > > > > > Ta
> > > > > > Jon
I've tried changing the pagetemplate so it uses VGraphMacro like
this:
<!--{{{-->
<div macro='VGraph parentFields:{{['tags']}} algorithm:radial
lineWidth:1 centerOn:systemConfig excludeTags:{{[]}}
ignoreLoneNodes:true'></div>
But it returns an error saying that there's too much recursion...
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 7 Nov., 20:11, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have borrowed a few parameters from TagmindmapPlugin trying to set
> > the height and width and"breadcrumbs"
> > I don't get a graph out of this..
> > What am I doing wrong?
> > > My bad.. amazing the difference a letter makes... put an equals sign
> > > between LinkLabelMacro and {handler
> > > like so:
> > > config.macros.linkLabelMacro= {handler: function
> > > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > > wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> > > Jon
> > > On Oct 27, 11:31 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Jon
> > > > Sorry, but I'm not a programmer and I cant figure out why this doesn't
> > > > work - please tell me what to change:
> > > > > Hi Mans,
> > > > > There is a parameter labelMacro that I've built so you can extend the
> > > > > graph in anyway you choose.
> > > > > For instance you could set up a tiddler tagged with systemConfig as
> > > > > so:
> > > > > config.macros.linkLabelMacro {handler: function
> > > > > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > > > > wikify("[["+tiddler.title+"]]",place)}};
> > > > > and then use:
> > > > > <<VGraph labelMacro:linkLabelMacro>>
> > > > > and all labels in the graph would be rendered as links using that
> > > > > macro just created.
> > > > > You should be able to zoom using your mousewheel.. (possibly not if
> > > > > you use Internet Explorer however as this has proved quite buggy)
> > > > > The three tiddlers you have mentioned should be all you need to setup
> > > > > your own instance.
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Jon
> > > > > On Oct 23, 3:54 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Jon
> > > > > > This is yet a very beautiful thing you've made !!!
> > > > > > I can't wait to implement it somehow - in my existing TWs.
> > > > > > Links:
> > > > > > I was wondering - How do you use links from the graph nodes?
> > > > > > Do I really have to doubleclick (thereby opening the graphcontaining
> > > > > > tiddler in editmode) to go to a tiddler with a title of a node... Is
> > > > > > there another way?
> > > > > > Zooming:
> > > > > > Also I need some intuitive way of centering the display of the zoom on
> > > > > > a specific node - not to loose the sight of the graph ---
> > > > > > Do you know Gimp? It has a terrific zoom practice - but it needs the
> > > > > > keyboard. You simply let the mouse stay on a spot in an image and you
> > > > > > zoom with + and - keeping what's under the mouse in the center. It's
> > > > > > very intuitive - unfortunately we don't have two mouses when
> > > > > > navigating in a TW - so choosing a center with a click on a node
> > > > > > followed by a click on + or - might be the solution for a controlled
> > > > > > zoom?
> > > > > > Importing:
> > > > > > I still haven't put the plugin into one of my TW's yet - which
> > > > > > tiddlers should I import? Only these three: VGraphPlugin,
> > > > > > VismoGraphAlgorithms and VismoLibraryPlugin?
> > > > > > > Hey visualisation fans,
> > > > > > > Would be really great if I could get some feedback on this graph
> > > > > > > plugin I am working on with the aim of improving/making
> > > > > > > TiddlyTagMindMap redundant:
> > > > > > > links:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/posts/VGraphhttp://www.jonrobson.me.uk/dev...
> > > > > > > Where should I focus my energies?
> > > > > > > Ta
> > > > > > > Jon
Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
hopefully this is the same thing.
I have tried to make it as simple as I could: http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here: http://doordouwe.nl/
My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
version...
YS Måns mårtensson
On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> hopefully this is the same thing.
That was great.
There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
-
you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
{{['tag']}}....'
and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
solved.
eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:
http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
Jon
On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> version...
> YS Måns mårtensson
> On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > hopefully this is the same thing.
Thank you very much Jon!
Also for making a working solution adding the <div style="width:
500px"
Great!
My next quest will be to change this (taken from http://doordouwe.nl/)
<!--{{{-->
<div id="tagmindmap" parameters="width:1024 height:768 id:main
startState:{{['info','ontwerp','2009']}} zoom:130 exclude:
['excludeLists','systemTiddler','systemConfig'] ignoreLoneNodes:true
breadcrumbs:true" </div>
and make it work with moveable panels like this:
<div macro='moveablePanel name:header'>
<div class='header' >
> That was great.
> There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> -
> you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> {{['tag']}}....'
> and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> solved.
> eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
> Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
> Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> Jon
> On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Jon
> > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > version...
> > YS Måns mårtensson
> > On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > hopefully this is the same thing.
Images as nodeheads?
Request:
Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you very much Jon!
> Also for making a working solution adding the <div style="width:
> 500px"
> Great!
> My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> <!--{{{-->
> <div id="tagmindmap" parameters="width:1024 height:768 id:main
> startState:{{['info','ontwerp','2009']}} zoom:130 exclude:
> ['excludeLists','systemTiddler','systemConfig'] ignoreLoneNodes:true
> breadcrumbs:true" </div>
> and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> <div macro='moveablePanel name:header'>
> <div class='header' >
> Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> Width, height and startstate?
> YS Mårtensson
> On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That was great.
> > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > -
> > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > {{['tag']}}....'
> > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > solved.
> > eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
> > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
> > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > Jon
> > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Jon
> > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > version...
> > > YS Måns mårtensson
> > > On 9 Nov., 18:33, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
Try adding a plugin like this:
config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
(place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
+"]]",place)
}};
along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.
Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
Hope this makes sense..
Jon
On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Images as nodeheads?
> Request:
> Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
> YS Måns Mårtensson
> On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thank you very much Jon!
> > Also for making a working solution adding the <div style="width:
> > 500px"
> > Great!
> > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > <!--{{{-->
> > <div id="tagmindmap" parameters="width:1024 height:768 id:main
> > startState:{{['info','ontwerp','2009']}} zoom:130 exclude:
> > ['excludeLists','systemTiddler','systemConfig'] ignoreLoneNodes:true
> > breadcrumbs:true" </div>
> > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > <div macro='moveablePanel name:header'>
> > <div class='header' >
> > Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> > Width, height and startstate?
> > YS Mårtensson
> > On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > That was great.
> > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > -
> > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > {{['tag']}}....'
> > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > solved.
> > > eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
> > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
> > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > Jon
> > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Jon
> > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > version...
> > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
I've tried to make the ImageLabelMacro - without success..
I've also experimented with ShowPopup and Nested Sliders - and to
insert one of them into the Pagetemplate...
> It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
> with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
> However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
> Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
> Try adding a plugin like this:
> config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
> (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
> +"]]",place)}};
> along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.
> Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
> image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
> Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
> Hope this makes sense..
> Jon
> On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Images as nodeheads?
> > Request:
> > Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> > Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> > an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> > If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> > size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> > edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
> > YS Måns Mårtensson
> > On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thank you very much Jon!
> > > Also for making a working solution adding the <div style="width:
> > > 500px"
> > > Great!
> > > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > > <!--{{{-->
> > > <div id="tagmindmap" parameters="width:1024 height:768 id:main
> > > startState:{{['info','ontwerp','2009']}} zoom:130 exclude:
> > > ['excludeLists','systemTiddler','systemConfig'] ignoreLoneNodes:true
> > > breadcrumbs:true" </div>
> > > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > > <div macro='moveablePanel name:header'>
> > > <div class='header' >
> > > Does VGraph allow you to specify zoomlevel and breadcumbs as well?
> > > Width, height and startstate?
> > > YS Mårtensson
> > > On 12 Nov., 16:18, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > That was great.
> > > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > > -
> > > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > > {{['tag']}}....'
> > > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > > solved.
> > > > eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
> > > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html > > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
> > > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > > Jon
> > > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jon
> > > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> > > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > > version...
> > > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > > > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
No way to set width yet without resorting to css.
try this to use the ImageLabelMacro on the graph
<<VGraph parentFields:{{['tags']}} algorithm:radial lineWidth:1
centerOn:systemConfig excludeTags:{{[]}} ignoreLoneNodes:true
labelMacro:ImageLabelMacro>>
Images look a bit too big though so you will need to tweak the code I
gave you above
where it says
"[img(100px+,75px+)["
set that to the dimensions you would like. Alternatively just remove
the text "(100px+,75px+)" and use css to style them
.canvasLabel img {width:20px;} in your StyleSheet tiddler should do
the job..
Jon
On Nov 12, 10:40 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've tried to make the ImageLabelMacro - without success..
> I've also experimented with ShowPopup and Nested Sliders - and to
> insert one of them into the Pagetemplate...
> On 12 Nov., 20:15, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
> > with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
> > However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
> > Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
> > Try adding a plugin like this:
> > config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
> > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
> > +"]]",place)}};
> > along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.
> > Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
> > image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
> > Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
> > Hope this makes sense..
> > Jon
> > On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Images as nodeheads?
> > > Request:
> > > Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> > > Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> > > an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> > > If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> > > size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> > > edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
> > > YS Måns Mårtensson
> > > On 12 Nov., 18:13, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Thank you very much Jon!
> > > > Also for making a working solution adding the <div style="width:
> > > > 500px"
> > > > Great!
> > > > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > > > <!--{{{-->
> > > > <div id="tagmindmap" parameters="width:1024 height:768 id:main
> > > > startState:{{['info','ontwerp','2009']}} zoom:130 exclude:
> > > > ['excludeLists','systemTiddler','systemConfig'] ignoreLoneNodes:true
> > > > breadcrumbs:true" </div>
> > > > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > > > <div macro='moveablePanel name:header'>
> > > > <div class='header' >
> > > > > That was great.
> > > > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > > > -
> > > > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > > > {{['tag']}}....'
> > > > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > > > solved.
> > > > > eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
> > > > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html > > > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
> > > > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > > > Jon
> > > > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Jon
> > > > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > > > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> > > > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > > > version...
> > > > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > > > > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
It's very nice to see images in the VGraph...
However it seems that the tooltip [["+tiddler.title+"]] doesn't work.
Instead there's an ugly "]]" in front of the titles (modified tiddlers
- not shadowed) in the VGraph..
Is it me who has broken the ImagelabelMacro syntax - or doesn't it
work?
Thanks again
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 13 Nov., 00:13, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No way to set width yet without resorting to css.
> try this to use the ImageLabelMacro on the graph
> <<VGraph parentFields:{{['tags']}} algorithm:radial lineWidth:1
> centerOn:systemConfig excludeTags:{{[]}} ignoreLoneNodes:true
> labelMacro:ImageLabelMacro>>
> Images look a bit too big though so you will need to tweak the code I
> gave you above
> where it says
> "[img(100px+,75px+)["
> set that to the dimensions you would like. Alternatively just remove
> the text "(100px+,75px+)" and use css to style them
> .canvasLabel img {width:20px;} in your StyleSheet tiddler should do
> the job..
> Jon
> On Nov 12, 10:40 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi again Jon
> > I've tried to make the ImageLabelMacro - without success..
> > I've also experimented with ShowPopup and Nested Sliders - and to
> > insert one of them into the Pagetemplate...
> > On 12 Nov., 20:15, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
> > > with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
> > > However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
> > > Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
> > > Try adding a plugin like this:
> > > config.macros.ImageLabelMacro= {handler: function
> > > (place,macroName,paramlist,wikifier,paramString,tiddler){
> > > wikify("[img(100px+,75px+)["+tiddler.fields.image+"]] [["+tiddler.title
> > > +"]]",place)}};
> > > along with Eric's ImageSizePlugin.
> > > Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
> > > image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
> > > Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
> > > Hope this makes sense..
> > > Jon
> > > On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Images as nodeheads?
> > > > Request:
> > > > Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> > > > Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> > > > an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> > > > If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> > > > size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> > > > edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
> > > > > > That was great.
> > > > > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > > > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > > > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > > > > {{['tag']}}....'
> > > > > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > > > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > > > > solved.
> > > > > > eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
> > > > > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html > > > > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
> > > > > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Jon
> > > > > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > > > > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> > > > > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > > > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > > > > version...
> > > > > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > > > > > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
I need some simple examples of how to use the VGraph
At the moment I can't even figure out how to show *only* a set of
parenttiddlers based on one or several tags and their children
What are the options?
YS Måns Mårtensson
On 13 Nov., 01:20, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's very nice to see images in the VGraph...
> However it seems that the tooltip [["+tiddler.title+"]] doesn't work.
> Instead there's an ugly "]]" in front of the titles (modified tiddlers
> - not shadowed) in the VGraph..
> Is it me who has broken the ImagelabelMacro syntax - or doesn't it
> work?
> Thanks again
> YS Måns Mårtensson
> On 13 Nov., 00:13, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > No way to set width yet without resorting to css.
> > try this to use the ImageLabelMacro on the graph
> > <<VGraph parentFields:{{['tags']}} algorithm:radial lineWidth:1
> > centerOn:systemConfig excludeTags:{{[]}} ignoreLoneNodes:true
> > labelMacro:ImageLabelMacro>>
> > Images look a bit too big though so you will need to tweak the code I
> > gave you above
> > where it says
> > "[img(100px+,75px+)["
> > set that to the dimensions you would like. Alternatively just remove
> > the text "(100px+,75px+)" and use css to style them
> > .canvasLabel img {width:20px;} in your StyleSheet tiddler should do
> > the job..
> > Jon
> > On Nov 12, 10:40 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi again Jon
> > > I've tried to make the ImageLabelMacro - without success..
> > > I've also experimented with ShowPopup and Nested Sliders - and to
> > > insert one of them into the Pagetemplate...
> > > On 12 Nov., 20:15, rakugo <jdlrob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > It's still very early days for this plugin, so sadly not quite there
> > > > with replicating all the functions of TiddlyTagMindMap.
> > > > However for images as node heads - this works slightly differently.
> > > > Remember the labelMacro I told you about before?
> > > > Now if you edit your EditTemplate so that you can set a field called
> > > > image it should show the label as that image plus the title as a link.
> > > > Again I've not checked this but I don't see no reason why not :)
> > > > Hope this makes sense..
> > > > Jon
> > > > On Nov 12, 5:46 pm, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Images as nodeheads?
> > > > > Request:
> > > > > Maybe it is already possible (I remember TagMindmap could do this):
> > > > > Does VGraph allow you to display images as nodeheads when you specify
> > > > > an imageurl as a field in the Parenttiddler?
> > > > > If this is possible - it would be nice to have images shown in a fixed
> > > > > size (maybe using imageSizePlugin by Eric?) - so you don't have to
> > > > > edit all images to fit in the VGraph...
> > > > > > Thank you very much Jon!
> > > > > > Also for making a working solution adding the <div style="width:
> > > > > > 500px"
> > > > > > Great!
> > > > > > My next quest will be to change this (taken fromhttp://doordouwe.nl/)
> > > > > > <!--{{{-->
> > > > > > <div id="tagmindmap" parameters="width:1024 height:768 id:main
> > > > > > startState:{{['info','ontwerp','2009']}} zoom:130 exclude:
> > > > > > ['excludeLists','systemTiddler','systemConfig'] ignoreLoneNodes:true
> > > > > > breadcrumbs:true" </div>
> > > > > > and make it work with moveable panels like this:
> > > > > > <div macro='moveablePanel name:header'>
> > > > > > <div class='header' >
> > > > > > > That was great.
> > > > > > > There were two problems. One to do with the styling (my bad) - it
> > > > > > > meant the graph was appearing in the odd location at the top.
> > > > > > > and one to do with how you were embedding it in your page (your bad)
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > you were doing something like macro='VGraph parentFields:
> > > > > > > {{['tag']}}....'
> > > > > > > and it was treating the single quotes on the tag as the end of the
> > > > > > > macro call. By replacing these with double quotes the problem was
> > > > > > > solved.
> > > > > > > eg. macro="VGraph parentFields:{{['tag']}}...."
> > > > > > > Fixed both issues and have upgraded the version here:http://www.jonrobson.me.uk/development/VGraph/index.html > > > > > > > That should hopefully be the end to your problems!!
> > > > > > > Thanks for the MTC it helped a lot!
> > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > > On Nov 10, 1:10 am, Måns <humam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Jon
> > > > > > > > I have tried to make it as simple as I could:http://tinyurl.com/yjp2kc5 > > > > > > > > In my original testcase I try to make it work as the background for
> > > > > > > > moveablepanels like Mitchke Leemans does here:http://doordouwe.nl/
> > > > > > > > My hope is that VGraphPlugin could replace TiddlyTagMindMapPlugin and
> > > > > > > > that it would make it possible to upgrade the core to the newest
> > > > > > > > version...
> > > > > > > > > Can you send me a minimal test case? I still have a few edge cases to
> > > > > > > > > iron out. Try excluding tags and find out which tiddler relationships
> > > > > > > > > are causing the recursion it will help me a lot. I know I fixed a
> > > > > > > > > recursion bug recently (not updated on jonrobson.me.uk yet though) -
> > > > > > > > > hopefully this is the same thing.
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