unable to save in Chrome Mac due to no Java support.

[ckdake]

Hello-

I'm using Chrome on Mac because it's crazy fast (to me) compared to
Safari, and takes up less screen real estate. The only problems so
far have been interacting with java, both to save in TiddlyWiki and
to use some crazy applet stuff from Citrix. It turns out, there is no
Java support in the Chrome Mac beta!

FND on IRC pointed me to: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=10812
which looks to explain this, and there are fun open support issues
like: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=070bbdb56c78099a&hl=en

Basically, no TiddlyWiki saving in Chrome until it supports Java :(

-Chris

[Mark S.]

Just thinking aloud, but if you have access to a server perhaps you
can save by uploading ... don't think that requires java. Possibly
even use a page at tiddlyspot if you don't have server access of your
own. Of course, that might mean your data is more exposed than you'd
like.

-- Mark

On Dec 14, 10:58 am, ckdake <ckd...@ckdake.com> wrote:
> Hello-
>
> I'm using Chrome on Mac because it's crazy fast (to me) compared to
> Safari, and takes up less screen real estate.  The only problems so
> far have been interacting with java,  both to save in TiddlyWiki and
> to use some crazy applet stuff from Citrix. It turns out, there is no
> Java support in the Chrome Mac beta!
>
> FND on IRC pointed me to:http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=10812
> which looks to explain this, and there are fun open support issues

> like:  http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=070bbdb56c780...

[Chris Kelly]

While I do have all sorts of server things, the beauty of TiddlyWiki is local file access synchronized everywhere via Dropbox. If I were to do this serverside, it would be MediaWiki, but I'd rather not have another public-facing PHP app that I need to be conscious of security upgrades for.

Java has to make it to Mac Chrome at some point, so I can wait it out!

-Chris

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[Mark S.]

I have a similar situation with Opera (plugin conflict prevents
saving). What's needed for these situations is a universal
regurgitater macro. When clicked, it would pop up a form field with
the entire contents of the current TW inside. Then you could copy and
paste the contents of the form into a text editor and manually save.
While not elegant, it would allow you to have a working TW until the
rest of technology caught up.

-- Mark

[Eric Shulman]

> saving). What's needed for these situations is a universal
> regurgitater macro. When clicked, it would pop up a form field with
> the entire contents of the current TW inside. Then you could copy and
> paste the contents of the form into a text editor and manually save.

see http://www.tiddlytools.com/#RescueStoreArea

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

[Mark S.]

Hi Eric,

I'm having difficulty. Can you explain how this works?

To test, I loaded the Rescue plugin. I created a tiddler (RescueTest)
with the <<tiddler RescueStoreArea>>. I saved and reloaded. Then I
went and modified exactly one tiddler. I opened the RescueTest
tiddler. I clicked on the link. It popped up and told me to save the
text. It put the text in another tab. Looking at the text, there is
way more being saved then in the one change I made. So maybe its
saving everything that has been modified in the last day or two, not
just the dirty stuff modified in the current session?

Next I opened a text file and saved the contents created by RescueTest
into it. I went back to the original TW and reloaded in order to lose
the changes. I tried to import from the "save" file, but it said
"error getting list of tiddlers".

So at this point I have a largish file that contains some duplicates
of my non-changed existing tiddlers, including ones that don't need to
be saved, and no way to recreate them without painstakingly sifting
through the text file.

What would be preferable is to either have *everything* generated
necessary to recreate the TW (as if we could do a view source that
included active javascript) or to just have the dirty changes in a
format that can be readily imported into a tw.

Thanks!
Mark

On Dec 15, 12:55 am, Eric Shulman <elsdes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > saving). What's needed for these situations is a universal
> > regurgitater macro. When clicked, it would pop up a form field with
> > the entire contents of the current TW inside. Then you could copy and
> > paste the contents of the form into a text editor and manually save.
>

> seehttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#RescueStoreArea

[Mark S.]

Any thoughts on this? Thanks!

[FND]

> It turns out, there is no Java support in the Chrome Mac beta!

This might come in handy to quickly test subsequent releases:
http://www.javatester.org
(via http://twitter.com/rockhopper/statuses/7407968705)

-- F.