Negative vibes for Hotmail extension

[joelmh]

Hello all,

In the last couple of days I've been getting the negative vibes message when trying to log onto my Hotmail account.

TB version 17.0.3
Webmail 1.5.1
Hotmail 1.3.10

Anyone having similar issues?

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Joel

[JAS]

I just started having issues.  I noticed that Hotmail has changed their look again for the one account that is having issues.  It seems more like gmail.

I have a new message in my inbox:  Get to know your new inbox.

Thunderbird:  17.0.3
Webmail:  1.5.1
Hotmail:  1.3.10

Sorry, but I haven't done any logging yet.

[whitebear]

Hotmail noticed that has changed look. Now it's outlook.com. I think that admin must change webmail to resolve the problem.

[joelmh]

I included outlook.com in domains list for both the webmail and hotmail add-ons but that didn't help. Has anyone had any success with this?

[JAS]

Got a log file, if it helps.
 

[Webmail Author]

Microsoft hasn't update my account yet, so I'm guessing what's wrong.  Can you try this version of Webmail


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAcjRpRlpBcjRrRkk/edit?usp=sharing

[whitebear]

This version doesn't run. Again negative vibes fot hotmail. It run with gmail and yahoo but not hotmail

[joelmh]

Still getting the same negative vibes comment after the upgrade.

Add-ons now indicate:

Webmail 1.5.2b1
Webmail - Hotmail 1.3.10b1

Also, checking the options for the Hotmail add-on now gives the following error:

XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://hotmail/content/Hotmail-Prefs.xul
Line Number 7, Column 1:

[Webmail Author]

Webmail - Hotmail 1.3.10b1

Also, checking the options for the Hotmail add-on now gives the following error:

XML Parsing Error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://hotmail/content/Hotmail-Prefs.xul
Line Number 7, Column 1:

That error is due to missing string in a translation file. This version should fix that problem. 

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAdmR2a0hnam9nTk0/edit?usp=sharing


Do you have the Hotmail log files?

[whitebear]

Still getting the same negative vibes comment after the upgrade. I use 1.3.10 hotmail extension. Does new extension version exist?

[Webmail Author]

Can you try this version

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAaXhrazd3RDQ0UHc/edit?usp=sharing

[whitebear]

Still getting the same negative vibes comment after the upgrade with new Hotmail extensione 1-3-11-b2

[AH1]

I can also confirm the negative vibes even with the latest beta version.

[Webmail Author]

This should get POP working


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAVDBpSGFBaHI5U2c/edit?usp=sharing

[AH1]

Still nothing with the latest update.

[BluesRenegade]

What happens if you try to login to Hotmail from your browser? That's always the first thing I try and, many times, I find that there is a new prompting screen in the way, such as one asking if I want to give them my cell phone #, etc.  Yahoo and Hotmail break the "normal" login pattern more frequently than any of us would like, but that doesn't mean the extensions are broken.

Login to Hotmail on the web, remain logged in, and see if Thunderbird works then.

Sometimes it's a syncing issue with the DELE command and the Trash folder on TB vs. the actual realtime Trash folder on the web mail. I've encountered that with Yahoo, and now I select the Trash folder in TB, hit Get Mail, and that usually works better than if I select the Inbox.

Hope this helps!

On 03/18/2013 07:52 PM, AH1 wrote:

Still nothing with the latest update.

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[AH1]

What do you think I've been using to check my mail while the plugin was down?  I've already cleared the prompts from the new changes to Hotmail.  Thanks for your suggestion though, I wish it were that simple.

[jo]

I found this in the Thunderbird error console:

Hotmail-SR-BETA: loginHandler : Exception : TypeError.

Error message: szResponse.match(...) is null

363

Now using: 

T-bird 17.0.4

webmail 1.5.2b1

hotmail 1.3.11b2

[whitebear]

Still negative vibes, because it advises STAT comand not successful.

[Webmail Author]

Can you try this version.  This one has POP and basic SMPT (no attachments)

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAdy1zTngzQUNyV2s/edit?usp=sharing

[whitebear]

This version runs accurately. Thanks you

[Acheron]

Using webmail 1.5.2b1 and hotmail 1.4.0b2 I get a stat error and negative vibes.

In the log I see that the e-mail in the inbox is processed, but the hotmail log ends with the following:

15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - mailBoxOnloadHandler -iLastPage : 1
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - mailBoxOnloadHandler -m_iPageCount : 2
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - mailBoxOnloadHandler -szMSGCount : 4166
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - mailBoxOnloadHandler -m_iMsgCount : 41
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - mailBoxOnloadHandler - More pages :
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - emailOnloadHandler - szURL :https://dub115.mail.live.com/mail/mail.fpp?cnmn=Microsoft.Msn.Hotmail.Ui.Fpp.MailBox.GetInboxData&a=8PNEUrhrOvRVX2QShomeFA==&au=3634531821031206718&ptid=0
15:27:13--HttpComms3.js - addValuePair - cn Microsoft.Msn.Hotmail.Ui.Fpp.MailBox
15:27:13--HttpComms3.js - addValuePair - mn GetInboxData
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA: MailboxOnload : Exception : TypeError.
Error message: mainObject.m_szFolderURL is null
602
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - serverComms - START
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - serverComms msg -ERR negative vibes from MY EMAIL ADDRESS
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - serverComms sent count: 47 msg length: 47
15:27:13--Hotmail-SR-BETA - serverComms - END
15:27:13--HttpComms3.js - callback - END

Op donderdag 7 maart 2013 04:24:56 UTC+1 schreef joelmh het volgende:

[jo]

Success!  I can send and receive without errors.

TB version 17.0.3

Webmail 1.5.2b1

Hotmail 1.4.0b2

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:24:56 PM UTC-5, joelmh wrote:

[jo]

Sorry wrong TB version should have been 17.0.4

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:24:56 PM UTC-5, joelmh wrote:

[Weresmilodon]

Still not working. Error is as follows;

The STAT command did not succeed. Error getting message number and sizes. Mail server localhost responded: negative vibes from add...@hotmail.com

TB version 17.0.4

Webmail 1.5.2b2

Hotmail 1.4.0b2

[whitebear]

I use Tb 17.0.4
webmail 1.5.2b2
hotmail 1.4.10b2
All runs accurately.
At first iI received STAT error. Afer I removed some old attachment by web. The mistake disappeared.

[whitebear]

Use
TB 17.0.4
webmail 1.5.2b2
hotmail 1.4.10b2

[joelmh]

I have the same issue - identical versions and identical error as well.

[Weresmilodon]

Hmm... I was cleaning out my account of spam and old news, when it suddenly started working. I am now receiving mail in Thunderbird again.

Not sure what exactly was causing the problem.

(Related?) Does the current version support attachments?

[jo]

I just tested an attachment.  Cannot send or receive hotmail with attachment. 

Negative vibes from jo.....@hotmail.com.  Please check the message and try again.

TB error console:

Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA.js: composerOnloadHandler : Exception : TypeError.

Error message: szResponse.match(...) is null

416

TB version 17.0.4

Webmail 1.5.2b1

Hotmail 1.4.0b2

[Weresmilodon]

Hm. So could we theorize that attachments might stop retrieval? Any more people who could test this?

[Chris Clifton]

On 20th March Webmail Author said;

> Can you try this version. This one has POP and basic SMPT (no
> attachments)
>
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAdy1zTngzQUNyV2s/edit?usp=sharing

If this is the version you are using, it doesn't support attachments.
Better than nothing though while you wait for a full update.

On 22/03/2013 20:59, Weresmilodon wrote:
> Hm. So could we theorize that attachments might stop retrieval? Any
> more people who could test this?

[Weresmilodon]

Yes, i know. But does having an email with an attachment stop it from retrieving any other mail? I only had a single mail with attachment, and it disappeared when i marked it as spam, so i can't check myself.

On Saturday, March 23, 2013 8:19:31 AM UTC+1, Chris C wrote:

On 20th March Webmail Author said;
> Can you try this version.  This one has POP and basic SMPT (no
> attachments)
>
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAdy1zTngzQUNyV2s/edit?usp=sharing
If this is the version you are using, it doesn't support attachments.
Better than nothing though while you wait for a full update.

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[Chris Clifton]

Oh! I see. Perhaps you could set up a rule on the Hotmail website to
move any messages with attachments to a holding folder until this issue
is resolved?

On 23/03/2013 07:26, Weresmilodon wrote:
> Yes, i know. But does having an email with an attachment stop it from
> retrieving any other mail? I only had a single mail with attachment,
> and it disappeared when i marked it as spam, so i can't check myself.
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> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAdy1zTngzQUNyV2s/edit?usp=sharing
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[Weresmilodon]

Possibly, but I'm not sure. The error i was getting was about message number and sizes. Not sure how that affects things. Then again, Webmail only checks the inbox, right? It could work.

What we really need though, is someone who still haven't gotten Thunderbird to retrieve mails, and who has an attachment among the unfetched mail. Then that person would have to move (or remove) that one mail with attachment, and see if that got things working again.

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[Chris Clifton]

Yes, unless specifically added, sub-folders of the inbox are not
checked. Or to put it another way, webmail only checks the main inbox of
a Hotmail account unless specifically asked to check other folders. If a
mail with an attachment is moved to another folder, it's invisible to
webmail unless you have told webmail to look in that folder.

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[Chris Clifton]

You could do the experiment yourself. Send two messages, one with an
attachment and one without to your Hotmail account from another email
address. Check whether or not you can retrieve these messages using
webmail, (I suspect not). The go to the Hotmail web site, create a new
folder and move all messages with attachments to this folder. Try
retrieving mail via webmail again. If this works, you have a means of
working around the problem. If not, most likely a new message with an
attachment was received before you checked the mail.

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[AH1]

Just want to throw in that my inbox is completely empty and I'm still getting the negative vibes.  I do not think attachments are the cause, at least for me.

[RiptoR]

On Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:23:51 PM UTC+1, AH1 wrote:

Just want to throw in that my inbox is completely empty and I'm still getting the negative vibes.  I do not think attachments are the cause, at least for me.

Same here.

Got 3 hotmail accounts in Thunderbird, the one that's already on Outlook.com works fine, the other two give "negative vibes". Cleared inbox/deleted/junk folders for both, and problem remains.

[AH1]

Although I have not changed anything, my Outlook-Hotmail began syncing with my Thunderbird tonight.  I'm not sure why that happened now and not before.

[Phil Troy]

Hi!

I am trying to use the webmail extension to read email from gmail via Thunderbird from behind a firewall.

I have creatged a thunderbird connection to the webmail extension. I am running on ubuntu 12.10 so it appears that I need to use a port greater than 1024. I have set the pop server to 1025 and the smtp server to 1026. They are both running. I have checked show server status in statusbar but have no idea where or what the statusbar is - can you point me to it?

The domains tab shows enabled for pop (1025) and smtp (1026) are enabled for gmail and googlemail, connection security to ssl/tls, and authentication method to normal password.

My question is what do I need to do to set up the webmail extension to work with gmail, as it is not currently doing so. The directions I have found are terribly out of date for the current version of Thunderbird (17.0.3) that I am using. I created a new account and gave it a reply to address. I set the pop mail server to localhost, port to 1025 . I have lots of waiting emails but none are downloaded.

All help will be appreciated.

Phil

[Webmail Author]

Can you try this version. POP should now work with large a mail box and SMTP can send attachments


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAT3h3bFEyUThuMkU/edit?usp=sharing

[joelmh]

That did indeed seem to work, thank you.

The junk mail seems to be downloading into my inbox instead of my junk folder. Is there a setting or an exception that can be instituted to fix this?

[Chris Clifton]

Thunderbird puts all mail received via the webmail extensions in the
inbox by default. You need to use TB's own filters to sort mail into
folders if desired. I'd suggest marking junk mail using TB's own spam
filters, thus TB should learn that this mail and any future mail like it
is junk.

> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAT3h3bFEyUThuMkU/edit?usp=sharing>

[Jon]

I can now receive emails but sending still fails, here's the last part of the hotmail-smtp logfile:

11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA - loginOnloadHandler - START
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA - loginOnloadHandler : 1
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA - loginOnloadHandler - status :200
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-BETA-SMTP - loginOnloadHandler aRefresh null
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-BETA - loginOnloadHandler aForm null
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-BETA-SMTP - loginOnloadHandler - directory : /mail/
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-BETA-SMTP - loginOnloadHandler - m_szLocationURI : https://dub117.mail.live.com/mail/
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-BETA-SMTP - loginOnloadHandler - m_szHomeURI : https://dub117.mail.live.com/default.aspx?id=64855&rru=inbox
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-BETA-SMTP: loginHandler : Exception : TypeError.

Error message: szResponse.match(...) is null

306
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA - serverComms - START
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA - serverComms msg 502 negative vibes from mye...@outlook.com
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA - serverComms sent count: 47 msg length: 47
11:29:25--Hotmail-SR-SMTP-BETA - serverComms - END
11:29:25--HttpComms3.js - callback - END

I can send you the full log files if that will help.

Jon

[jo]

Confirmed.  Sending and receiving of attachments working for me.

TB version 17.0.4

Webmail 1.5.2b1

Hotmail 1.4.0b4

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:24:56 PM UTC-5, joelmh wrote:

[joelmh]

Unfortunately, spam simply outnumbers any filters you put in front of it.

Prior to this upgrade, the add-on put all the junk mail place in my Hotmail folder into my TB junk folder. I just want this same functionality back.

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[Pier Carlo Aimone]

This version (hotmail-1-4-0b4) works for receiving and sending messages with attachments but leaves the mails on the server as "unread". Would it be possible to fix it, please?

And... thanks for your great work supporting the extension!

Regards

Il giorno lunedì 25 marzo 2013 22:40:58 UTC+1, Webmail Author ha scritto:

[Pier Carlo Aimone]

Actually I cannot send e-mails with attachements. Any fix for this?

Thanks

[MikeYo]

Yes, same here. Messages are left unread on server and issues with
attachments...any fix?

> >https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lAT3h3bFEyUThuMkU/edit?usp=...

[jo]

I have also confirmed that messages are left as unread on the server and attachments are corrupted when sending.

[aliend...@hotmail.com]

I' still getting  "Hotmail-SR-BETA: loginHandler : Exception : TypeError. Error message: szCookie.match(...) is null 354", negative vibes and that's cool (it's not). I'm using latest Webmail 1.5.2b2, Hotmail 1.4.0b4 components together with Thunderbird 17.04

Thanks!

[Webmail Author]

Can you try this


https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B12SpPN0s2lATXpGVFdzUl9PMGM/edit?usp=sharing

[aliend...@hotmail.com]

I'm sorry to say it does not help. As I mentioned in this thread the problem appeared months ago (I can say not for sure but it seem to be around juli 2011, wow!) and is certainly not new, I just had hoped it would fix itself and realized it won't so I joined this thread. Maybe this helps to trace it down. It's a dinosaur :) Thank you for your help!

[jo]

Ok, here are the results of the latest test:

TB version 17.0.5

Webmail 1.5.2b1

Hotmail 1.4.0b5

When I send a message with an attachment, I receive it and the file is not corrupted.  When I receive a message with an attachment it works fine no corruption.  When I read a message it remains unread on the server.  If I send a message and then reply to it, I do not receive the reply.  When I look at the reply on www.hotmail.com it is merged together with the original message as a thread. Each time I reply, I only see 1 message on www.hotmail.com but the thread count increments by 1 as shown in the image.  I hope this helps.

[Chris Clifton]

Hi,
Just did some tests with my own Hotmail. I didn't have messages grouped by thread as you describe, but Hotmail offered me the option of grouping. When I selected this option, then the messages were grouped. You can change this setting by going to your Hotmail webpage and clicking on the options link (the cogwheel top right). Select "More email options" from the next page. Scroll down to see the "Reading Emails" section and click on "Group by conversation and pre-load messages". You can then choose whether or not Hotmail groups your messages by conversation.
I'd guess that the extension cannot work on grouped messages, you need to have all messages listed individually in the inbox. I don't use the Hotmail extension myself, I have POP3 access to my Hotmail, so I can't test this.

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[aliend...@hotmail.com]

Oh well, it seems to work fine now, forget the last mail. Sometimes hotmail asks for new information like telephone number etc... Yesterday I didn't check :(
I was able now to receive 500++ messages, it only asks for 80 each sync, but that doesn't matter much for me.
I did sent an email with attachment, md5sum did not detect any corruption in received attachment, so everything seems fine on my side.

Thanks!

[jo]

Group messages by conversation must be the default setting because I did not change it.  I changed the option to list messages individually.  Now it works just fine, except for the fact that the messages still appear unread on the server.

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[MikeYo]

Yes, exactly the same results here...

On Apr 4, 5:43 pm, jo <jwessling...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok, here are the results of the latest test:
>
> TB version 17.0.5
> Webmail 1.5.2b1
>
> Hotmail 1.4.0b5
>
> When I send a message with an attachment, I receive it and the file is not
> corrupted.  When I receive a message with an attachment it works fine no
> corruption.  When I read a message it remains unread on the server.  If I
> send a message and then reply to it, I do not receive the reply.  When I

> look at the reply onwww.hotmail.comit is merged together with the
> original message as a thread. Each time I reply, I only see 1 message onwww.hotmail.combut the thread count increments by 1 as shown in the image.
>  I hope this helps.
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[jo]

Log into hotmail.com and change your settings by clicking the gear icon in the upper right corner and selecting 'More Mail Settings' then under the 'Reading email' section click on 'Group by conversation and pre-load messages'.  Click the option to 'Show Messages Individually' and click save.

This helped for me.

[MikeYo]

I have done all that, but the messages remain unread on the server.
Any way to fix this? Any new version of the extension maybe?

On Apr 8, 3:52 pm, jo <jwessling...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Log into hotmail.com and change your settings by clicking the gear icon in
> the upper right corner and selecting 'More Mail Settings' then under the
> 'Reading email' section click on 'Group by conversation and pre-load
> messages'.  Click the option to 'Show Messages Individually' and click save.
>
> This helped for me.
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> On Sunday, April 7, 2013 1:20:58 AM UTC-4, MikeYo wrote:
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> > Yes, exactly the same results here...
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> > On Apr 4, 5:43 pm, jo <jwessling...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ok, here are the results of the latest test:
>
> > > TB version 17.0.5
> > > Webmail 1.5.2b1
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> > > Hotmail 1.4.0b5
>
> > > When I send a message with an attachment, I receive it and the file is
> > not
> > > corrupted.  When I receive a message with an attachment it works fine no
> > > corruption.  When I read a message it remains unread on the server.  If
> > I
> > > send a message and then reply to it, I do not receive the reply.  When I

> > > look at the reply onwww.hotmail.comitis merged together with the

> > > original message as a thread. Each time I reply, I only see 1 message

> > onwww.hotmail.combutthe thread count increments by 1 as shown in the

[psuperman]

Everything is normal now except that the emails remain unread on the server.

[Pier Carlo Aimone]

I'm still experiencing the following issues:

 

1. The messages remain unread on the server
2. Replying of Forwarding messages including formatted text doesn't work (negative vibes, check message and try again). Cutting and paste the text as unformatted works fine.
3. The special Italian characters ò à ù ì è é  are sent as ò à ù ì è é so they are unreadable when received. Sending the same using a Gmail account works fine. So I don't think it is a Thunderbird setting.

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

Pier Carlo

 

[Pier Carlo Aimone]

Well, I've got the fix from the web author.

This solves the special character issue (make sure to set your character encoding to western), the messages unread on the server and the issues replying/forwarding messages containing formatted text.

 

hotmail-1-4-1b6.xpi is attached to this message or you should be able to download it from here: 

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9ZlgMsqY6keYkxGd1VVX21NSkE/edit?usp=sharing

 

Thanks a lot for the effort and keep up the good work!!!