Can I stil use thunderbird after 1 september with hotmail?

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Loppis

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Jul 10, 2009, 1:46:08 AM7/10/09
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I have recieved a mail that somehow I have to change settings, but
this settinngs are not for thunderbird, can I stil use thunderbird?




Windows Live Newsletter


Dear Windows Live Hotmail Customer,

You are receiving this note because you have used Microsoft Office
Outlook, Outlook Express, or Entourage to view your Windows Live
Hotmail®. Microsoft is changing the way these programs access Hotmail
e-mail which will require you to take action.

To continue to receive e-mail from your Hotmail account, please select
one of the alternative solutions below before September 1, 2009. After
this day, new e-mail can only be delivered to your mail programs
through the following alternative solutions.

If you use Microsoft Office Outlook to view Hotmail , you can download
free Office Outlook Connector to continue accessing your Windows Live
Hotmail within Outlook 2003 or 2007. If you're using Outlook 2002, you
will need to change the settings on your program to access your
Hotmail. Click here to learn more.

If you use Outlook Express to view Hotmail , you can choose to
download free Windows Live Mail (recommended) or change the settings
on your program to access your Hotmail within Outlook Express. Click
here to learn more about your options.

If you use Entourage to view Hotmail , you can change the settings in
your program to view your e-mail. Click here to learn more.

Don't know what you're using to view Hotmail? Have more questions?
View the FAQ page or visit the Community Forum.

Why is this happening? Outlook, Outlook Express, and Entourage use a
legacy communications method (known as the DAV protocol) to access
Hotmail. Because the DAV protocol is not optimally suited for programs
to access large inboxes such as Hotmail which now provides users ever-
growing storage*, new alternatives have been built. Last year,
customers asked us to postpone plans to retire the DAV protocol until
more options were available. Now that these options (including the
POP3 protocol) are available, we are ready to retire the DAV protocol.

Thank you for using Windows Live Hotmail.

Sincerely,

Your Windows Live Hotmail Team

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Chris Clifton

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Jul 10, 2009, 3:20:17 AM7/10/09
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If you use the Webdav setting in the webmail extension, this will no
longer work after 1st September. If you use one of the other "Mode"
settings in the Hotmail webmail extension, this will continue to work as
before (subject to being broken from time to time by Hotmail changing
the coding on the web site!).
Hotmail do now allow free POP access to email accounts using any email
client of your choice. It takes some digging around the Hotmail help
pages to find the settings, but they are there, or you can look through
this group's archives to see where this has been discussed previously.
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KE4AVB

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Jul 10, 2009, 6:46:17 AM7/10/09
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The Hotmail webmail ext has a new site mode to access the site. You
make the change under Tools, Add-ons, look under the Hotmail add-on
for optons button, click and then under mode tab select Hotmail Live.

Here is the settings for Hotmail Pop3 for TB.

Hotmail
From MozillaZine Knowledge Base

This article was written for Thunderbird but also applies to
Mozilla Suite / SeaMonkey (though some menu sequences may differ).

Hotmail (Windows Live webmail) has a free POP3 and SMTP server. You no
longer need to use an add-on to use Hotmail with Thunderbird.

Create a new account by pressing the Add Account button in Tools ->
Account Settings:

* Type: POP
* Server Name: pop3.live.com
* User Name: Your FULL email address
* Port: 995 (this should be automatically set when you select SSL)
* Use secure connection: SSL
* Use secure authentication: leave unchecked

If you want to use their SMTP server select "Outgoing Server (SMTP)"
and press the Add button.

* Server Name: smtp.live.com
* Port: 587 (you could also use port 25 if your ISP doesn't block
it)
* Use name and password: Check it
* Username: Your FULL email address
* Use secure connection: TLS

You can still use the webmail extension and its Hotmail add-on.
However, the webmail extension is slower, harder to configure and may
break (requiring you to get an updated add-on) whenever the web page
changes. Normally you'd only use it if you're behind a firewall that
prevents you from accessing the POP server or you need to download the
contents of the Spam folder.

You need to login periodically to keep Microsoft from disabling the
account. You don't need to do this using a browser, Thunderbird will
login to Hotmail whenever it checks for new mail

Eugene

Chris Clifton

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Jul 10, 2009, 8:30:22 AM7/10/09
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No need to create a new account, you can just change the server settings
etc. in your existing Thunderbird Hotmail account to use these servers
and ports instead of localhost. That's what I did with my Hotmail
account a couple of months ago.
As you say, there are only two reasons why you should want to stay with
the webmail extension for Hotmail now. One, you're behind a corporate
firewall and your IT manager has everything locked down so tight that
you can't access the servers or ports needed. Two you have folders and
filters set up in the Hotmail website and you want to download mails
from all the folders. POP by definition can only download from the
Inbox, any sub-folders are invisible to it.
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