On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Jeff <srfnscubamun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I considered many things when I uploaded the files that I uploaded.

> Terrorists can use a pen to take over a plane, have you ever seen
> "tactical" pens http://www.crkt.com/Elishewitz-Tao-Pen---Aluminum you
> can take that on a plane.
> Any one with reasonable means can get a real gun for less than what
> any 3d printer costs, and it would be much easier.  you could even
> make a crude one out of pipe, just like the first Winchester if i
> recall correctly.

> have a good day, i dont see a threat.  I just see the sharing of
> knowledge.

> On Oct 6, 5:09 am, Larsie <lkrol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My main issue with posting a lethal plastic gun on thingiverse would
> > be to promote its use as a terrorist tool. It could allow terrorists
> > to bring it past control barriers and potentially hijack airplanes
> > etc. I hope that those considering to post such a tool consider that
> > this could happen (although I think your primary drive would be
> > something else than this, such as the fact that it might be fun to
> > make something like this). You may argue that guns don't kill people,
> > but I would still feel terrible if I was the one who made something
> > like this possible. I hope anyone here also would feel bad if a tool
> > they made was used by a terrorist. I would respect someone who did
> > design such a gun, showed that it was possible, but didn't openly post
> > the plans.

> > I think that if you want to promote such a lethal plastic weapon, you
> > should do this within a space that is controlled and will only allow
> > responsible people to download it. If the NRA for example wanted to
> > allow sharing of such objects, let them do it. But hopefully they also
> > will ensure that this is only distributed among those who should have
> > access as they also would not like to aid terrorists.

> > As far as banning things is concerned, Thingiverse bans 'things' of
> > sexual nature. I don't see the problem of banning guns. For me
> > printing a penis is less troublesome, but I accept that Thingiverse as
> > a site sets its boundaries.

> > Terrorism is of course a relative term, and the guy here in Norway who
> > killed lots of kids this summer said he did it for a political agenda
> > of freeing the country. He used legally licensed guns, based on
> > norwegian gun laws. If he could have enhanced the semi-automatic rifle
> > he had to a fully automatic one, he would have. In fact, he says he
> > had been looking for ways to do it. If a plastic printer had helped
> > him, I would say that would have been a bad thing. He could have
> > killed a hundred more kids. At the same time, the norwegians who
> > fought the invading forces during the 2nd world war were also called
> > terrorists (and also sometimes killed innocent people), but are now
> > understandably called heros. They made home made guns with the help
> > from the UK, and if they had plastic printers their manufacturing
> > would probably have been easier. It's really not black and white, but
> > we still need to draw a line.

> > The thread is about what is a gun. I apologize for not 'answering'
> > this. It's equally difficult, but I think common sense can help us
> > draw a line between toys and real lethal weapons that can be used for
> > terrorism and murder.

> > Lars

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