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Jeff Keegan  
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 More options Oct 5 2011, 3:37 pm
From: Jeff Keegan <jkee...@keegan.org>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 15:37:35 -0400
Local: Wed, Oct 5 2011 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] all this talk about weapons....

Yawn

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Edgar Castelo <edgarinven...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Being offensive? Come on, use the Politically Correct Clergy's anathema:
> Hate speech!

> Control of gun ownership IS about oppression, and don't talk to me about
> Great Britain, that is, in my opinion, I can have one, HERE, nothing but a
> Fascist Securitarian State, with a Parliament for the Tourists. And it will
> soon be an Emirate.

> When we Portuguese suffered oppression, you Brits had a blast calling us
> fascist Dago apes, and worse, now you "lions" can be arrested for 5 years
> for having a puny Swiss Army knife, on your pockets, just because a stupid
> Welfare Mother cow made a Crusade against anything that "might pierce the
> skin".

> Every year the "Justice" systems puke out thousands of oppressive laws,
> designed to turn citizens into sheep. I don't care if it's a conspiracy, or
> just megalomaniac stupidity. Oppression is oppression.

> I don't want to be controlled like a bloody Criminal, just because
> order-obsessed fools think they could be protected by making Society into a
> Concentration Camp.

> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Blair Thompson <
> justblairthomp...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Edgar  ****

>> ** **

>> Just because someone has a different set of values to you, is that a
>> reason to resort to being offensive?****

>> ** **

>> As for peoples intentions.  Control of gun ownership is nothing to do with
>> conspiracy, it’s not about oppression, it’s not so your government can
>> control you.  It’s as simple as this.****

>> ** **

>> USA = gun culture = 0.0279271 per 1,000 murders by firearm (No 1 in the
>> developed nations)****

>> UK = Gun control = 0.00102579 per 1,000 murders by firearm ****

>> ** **

>> I am 28 times less likely to be murdered by firearm in the UK and I value
>> that.****

>> ** **

>> I don’t understand enthusiasm for firearms in US culture, and I don’t want
>> to encroach on it, it’s up to US citizens to decide on the amount of
>> regulation you are comfortable with.  ****

>> ** **

>> But I don’t want to increase the available weapons in my country.  That is
>> a value that is shared by a lot of the UK and citizens of every other
>> country in the world as well (including the US)  ****

>> ** **

>> So play nice J****

>> ** **

>> Blair****

>> ** **

>> *From:* thingiverse@googlegroups.com [mailto:thingiverse@googlegroups.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Edgar Castelo
>> *Sent:* 05 October 2011 18:42
>> *To:* thingiverse@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [thingiverse] all this talk about weapons....****

>> ** **

>> Everyone of us lives surrounded by people with guns, but most of those are
>> only to be feared by thieves, assassins, and thugs.
>> That so many "progressives" fear that, people that can defend themselves,
>> gives us a good hint about those sainted do-gooderr's real intentions.***
>> *

>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Edgar Castelo <edgarinven...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:****

>> George Soros, and the cretins in Great Britain that call themselves "green
>> inclinations, no children" are far worse than any home building Gunsmith...
>> And let's be honest for once, THAT'S what the "save the children" Anti-Gun
>> Mob is all about, they fear "the masses" having guns.****

>> ** **

>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:07 PM, M.Rule <mrule7...@gmail.com> wrote:****

>> What if we just wait until there is some evidence of someone actually
>> blocking access to thingiverse because of its content, and then resume
>> this discussion once we see what things crossed the line. This is a
>> good, empirical measure of offensiveness, and we can forget about all
>> these censoring discussions until someone actually blocks the site, if
>> ever.****

>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:50 PM, tmo <tmoph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > in all seriousness,  what exactly is a weapon?

>> > someone could seriously injure if not kill another person with a
>> > screwless heart gear thrown out of a moving car.  it fits perfectly in
>> > ones hand, it can be rotated so its spikey.  give that to a ill
>> > tempered 3 year old in a kindergarten setting and someone is going to
>> > get hurt.

>> > i know that is a stupid example but where is the line drawn?  who
>> > draws that line?

>> > and ultimately what and who are you protecting from banning this
>> > stuff?  kids see more weapons and violence on tv than at any point in
>> > history and parents park them in front of that for hours a day.

>> > all of this discussion on weapons is meaningless until there is a
>> > clear cut definition of what is, what can be and what isn't a
>> > weapon.

>> > if thingiverse were to ban weapons, thingiverse would suck if i was
>> > the person deciding what is and is not a weapon.  everything is a
>> > weapon in the hands of someone who is creative and wants to do
>> > violence to others..

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