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Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Re: Understanding Creative Commons Licenses ...
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Yes. It is impossible to create a license that prevents all the different
types of dick you could be, and nobody would follow it anyway.
On Feb 18, 2012 5:22 PM, "Ron Thompson" <webmas...@plansandprojects.com>
wrote:

>  I'm sorry. Dick move or not, open source is open source. You are free to
> do whatever. If you are upset by this, don't open source your stuff.
>
> On 2/18/2012 7:07 PM, Prescott Ogden wrote:
>
> I think they were talking about manufacturing and selling clones. Eg:
> giving Ubuntu to my friend, not a dick move; selling it in my shop for $20
> when canonical does the same thing, dick move.
> On Feb 18, 2012 4:11 PM, "Ron Thompson" <webmas...@plansandprojects.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I read the article. I guess I'm dense.
>> Why would someone be upset when someone makes a clone of open source
>> hardware? Isn't that the whole point of open source, so others can make
>> copies?
>>
>> On 2/18/2012 4:40 PM, Whystler wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Prescott,
>>>
>>> That was a great article and very heartening.  I mean, that's what I
>>> would do.  That's what you would do.  That's what anyone in my
>>> community or that is close to me would do.  We are all like that.
>>>
>>> But not everyone is ... there are many that are ...
>>>
>>> -Whystler
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 4:10 pm, Prescott Ogden<og...@pres.co.tt>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whystler,
>>>>
>>>> I feel like this is relevant to your interests:
>>>> http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-ope.
>>>> ..
>>>> On Feb 18, 2012 2:04 PM, "Whystler"<shawn...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>> --
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>>
>> Ron Thompson
>> On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space
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>>
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<p>Yes. It is impossible to create a license that prevents all the differen=
t types of dick you could be, and nobody would follow it anyway.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Feb 18, 2012 5:22 PM, &quot;Ron Thompson&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:webmas...@plansandprojects.com">webmaster@plansandp=
rojects.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">

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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    I&#39;m sorry. Dick move or not, open source is open source. You are
    free to do whatever. If you are upset by this, don&#39;t open source
    your stuff.<br>
    <br>
    On 2/18/2012 7:07 PM, Prescott Ogden wrote:
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <p>I think they were talking about manufacturing and selling
        clones. Eg: giving Ubuntu to my friend, not a dick move; selling
        it in my shop for $20 when canonical does the same thing, dick
        move.</p>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Feb 18, 2012 4:11 PM, &quot;Ron Thompso=
n&quot;
        &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:webmas...@plansandprojects.com" target=3D"_bl=
ank">webmas...@plansandprojects.com</a>&gt;
        wrote:<br type=3D"attribution">
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          I read the article. I guess I&#39;m dense.<br>
          Why would someone be upset when someone makes a clone of open
          source hardware? Isn&#39;t that the whole point of open source, s=
o
          others can make copies?<br>
          <br>
          On 2/18/2012 4:40 PM, Whystler wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            Thanks Prescott,<br>
            <br>
            That was a great article and very heartening. =A0I mean,
            that&#39;s what I<br>
            would do. =A0That&#39;s what you would do. =A0That&#39;s what a=
nyone in
            my<br>
            community or that is close to me would do. =A0We are all like
            that.<br>
            <br>
            But not everyone is ... there are many that are ...<br>
            <br>
            -Whystler<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            On Feb 18, 4:10 pm, Prescott Ogden&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:og...@p=
res.co.tt" target=3D"_blank">og...@pres.co.tt</a>&gt; =A0wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              Whystler,<br>
              <br>
              I feel like this is relevant to your interests:<a href=3D"htt=
p://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-of-ope." target=
=3D"_blank">http://blog.makezine.com/2012/02/14/soapbox-the-unspoken-rules-=
of-ope.</a>..<br>

              On Feb 18, 2012 2:04 PM, &quot;Whystler&quot;&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:shawn...@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">shawn...@hotmail.com</a>&gt;
              =A0wrote:<br>
            </blockquote>
          </blockquote>
          <br>
          -- <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Ron Thompson<br>
          On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy
          Space Center, USA<br>
          <br>
          Think, Draw, Print. 3D printers ROCK!<br>
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del2012-1/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.plansandprojects.com/My%20Machines=
/PrusaMendel2012-1/</a><br>
          <br>
          <a href=3D"http://www.plansandprojects.com" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://www.plansandprojects.com</a>
          My hobby pages are here:<br>
          <a href=3D"http://www.plansandprojects.com/My%20Machines/" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.plansandprojects.com/My%20Machines/</a><br>
          <br>
          Visit the castinghobby FAQ:<br>
          <a href=3D"http://castinghobbyfaq.bareboogerhost.com/" target=3D"=
_blank">http://castinghobbyfaq.bareboogerhost.com/</a><br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
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Ron Thompson=20
On the Beautiful Florida Space Coast, right beside the Kennedy Space Center=
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