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Elbot  
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 More options Sep 9 2012, 9:25 pm
From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:25:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 9 2012 9:25 pm
Subject: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

Hi,

I saw the youtube video where the guy prints a 3d printed bicycle<http://youtu.be/hmxjLpu2BvY>and rides it without any assembly. I want to do that with my Makerbot
Replicator !!! (so cool). However, I am not an engineer and don't know how
to draw a one way ball bearing. I saw a ball bearing (2 way) on thingiverse
that prints with water soluble support material on a dual extrusion
Replicator, but no one way ball bearing.

Can someone please (pretty please) post a 2 way ball bearing on Thingiverse
so that I could use that to create my bicycle? I will accredit you with
eternal thingiPraise when I post my bicycle as a derivative on online. I'll
even send you a free bicycle if you'd like.

Yeah, I know, the wheels will have to be kinda small.. and since the
Replicator is much smaller than a million dollar 3d printer, I'll probably
have to do a bit of assembly but, hey, as long as it works!

Thanks,
Elbot.


 
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Elbot  
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 More options Sep 9 2012, 9:30 pm
From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 9 2012 9:30 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

Here's a bike with tiny wheels that could possibly be 3d printed:
bike with tiny wheels <http://youtu.be/0Z8dFlVNrY8>


 
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From: MacGyver <bdwells2...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I don't think the 3D printed bike in the video used any one way bearings
that I'm aware of.  It appeared to me like it was a direct drive thing so
that when the bike is moving the pedals are constantly moving too.  Maybe
I'm misunderstanding what you are asking for.


 
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 5:17 pm
From: Cymon <joealar...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:17:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

Do you own a replicator? Because I don't think you understand how small the
build platform is.

I've pondered making a printed bike before and in my mind you could make
printed joints and printed gears and printed pedals, but using PVC piping
or maybe something more sturdy for the frame. But it's not the sort of task
I've been particularly up for, busy as I am with more reasonable projects.


 
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Elbot  
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 6:14 pm
From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 6:14 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I have a replicator. Frame will be printed and assembled like legos with glue. Wheel s will be small. So, anyone can cad design in stl a one way ball bearing? I will do the rest.


 
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From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 6:15 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I have a replicator. Frame will be printed and assembled like legos with glue. Wheel s will be small. So, anyone can cad design in stl a one way ball bearing? I will do the rest.


 
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From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:16:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I have a replicator. Frame will be printed and assembled like legos with glue. Wheels  will be small. So, anyone can cad design in stl a one way ball bearing? I will do the rest.


 
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 More options Sep 10 2012, 6:17 pm
From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:17:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 6:17 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I have a replicator. Frame will be printed and assembled like legos with glue. Wheels  will be small. So, anyone can cad design in stl a one way ball bearing? I will do the rest.


 
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From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:18:01 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I have a replicator. Frame will be printed and assembled like legos with glue. Wheels  will be small. So, anyone can cad design in stl a one way ball bearing? I will do the rest.


 
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From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 15:18:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Sep 10 2012 6:18 pm
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I have a replicator. Frame will be printed and assembled like legos with glue. Wheels  will be small. So, anyone can cad design in stl a one way ball bearing? I will do the rest.


 
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Adan Akerman  
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 More options Sep 11 2012, 7:15 am
From: Adan Akerman <a...@akerworks.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:15:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

Hi Elbot,

I admire your goal... and I eagerly anticipate the day when it is in fact a
reasonable option to print bicycles on home 3D printers. That's gonna be
awesome. Right now, though, with the Replicator as your primary tool, it's
a real challenge. Your difficulties will go far beyond your need to have a
one way ball bearing.

Should you choose to accept this challenge - and it could be a really great
project if you do - I think it will be best if you take this opportunity to
grab one of the CAD packages out there and learn to drive it. You clearly
have a lot of exciting ideas, neat images in your head. Your personal CAD
proficiency will always either limit or empower your 3D printing efforts,
at least until you're able to hire someone to do your design work for you.

Once you've gotten started working in a CAD package, I'm sure this
community will do whatever we can to answer questions you come across, and
try to help you get that bike rolling - or whatever else you choose to
design.

Best of luck,

Adan


 
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Elbot  
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 More options Sep 11 2012, 7:47 am
From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:47:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Sep 11 2012 7:47 am
Subject: Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

sorry, i didn't know that i posted so many duplicate replies. my iphone did
not say that it posted successfully, so i assumed that the posting failed.

i already know how to use a cad software. i use netfabb and tinkercad.
netfabb is professional grade cad software. however, i have no earthly idea
what a one way ball bearing is other than that it only rolls one way. seems
like magick to me.

will a super genius please help with this? thanks.


 
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Todd Blatt  
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 More options Sep 11 2012, 7:57 am
From: Todd Blatt <tbl...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 07:57:26 -0400
Local: Tues, Sep 11 2012 7:57 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

Look into how ratchets work and you'll get an idea.

Todd Blatt
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Adan Akerman  
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 More options Sep 11 2012, 8:43 am
From: Adan Akerman <a...@akerworks.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 08:42:54 -0400
Local: Tues, Sep 11 2012 8:42 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Re: Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I'm glad to hear you have a cad setup you like. That's great.

It is magick, no doubt! I think the advice to study ratchets is a good
start.

Best of luck,

Adan


 
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Aaron Double  
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 More options Sep 14 2012, 10:55 am
From: Aaron Double <aad...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:55:39 -0400
Local: Fri, Sep 14 2012 10:55 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

I bet you could take the ratchet wrench and make a freewheel out of it…

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:28805

Aaron

On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Adan Akerman wrote:


 
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Elbot  
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 2:44 am
From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:44:10 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 2:44 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

No, the efficiency of that ratchet wrench would be horrible because it is
not a one way bearing.  It is a leaf spring design. Efiiciency needs to be
a concern because it has to roll as a bicycle. This wouldn't roll.

I could design it so that you'd insert a metal bearing you buy elsewhere
into the bicycle. However, that wouldn't be a proof of concept of a
ENTIRELY 3d printed bicycle. I even want to wheels to be of a 3d printed
design kinda like the "big wheels" toy tricycles with ABS tires, no rubber
air inflated tires. I want the ENTIRE bicycle to be 3d printed. The youtube
video had a bicycle with inflated tires and rubber handles. I want to do a
one-upmanship on them and do a 100% 3d printed bicycle.

I think a crankshaft design would be more sturdy for ABS than an ABS chain.
Then, lego-like construction of the frame in pieces. It will look weird
with tiny wheels because it has to fit on the replicator's tiny HBP, but at
least it is possible. With the TOM or cupcake, their diminutive sizes make
it impossible.


 
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 2:56 am
From: Elbot <tomasre...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:56:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 2:56 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

found this explanation:
http://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t55473p1/

It seems like the one way ball bearing would need to be a very exact
tolerances, not possible with the makerbot replicator because it needs to
be sealed in grease? Or else it won't work. It cannot be a simple open
design ball bearing like the 2 way ball bearing?

Maybe it can work only if the ball bearing is oversized and a whole lotta
grease is thrown on it? you'll get greasy just looking at it?:

any engineers wanna take a stab at it? student exercise? I'll buy you an in
and out burgers meal if you're in Dallas. or a pack of domestic beer if
you're over 21.


 
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Prescott Ogden  
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 8:21 am
From: Prescott Ogden <og...@pres.co.tt>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:21:28 -0700
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 8:21 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

for proof of concept purposes it may be easier to simply omit the one-way
bearing and have a fixed gear bicycle.


 
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 10:25 am
From: Mark Ungrin <Mark.Ung...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:24:05 -0600
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 10:24 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Looking for One Way Ball Bearings
I assume you'll be making the wheel solid, as I can't see spokes working
out well in this context. In that case, remember that just because the
hub on a regular bike is small doesn't mean yours can't be larger - it
could take up the entire interior of the wheel. Then you could scale
everything up enough that the tolerances are acceptable.

On 16/09/2012 6:21 AM, Prescott Ogden wrote:


 
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 More options Sep 16 2012, 11:59 am
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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:59:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 16 2012 11:59 am
Subject: Re: [thingiverse] Looking for One Way Ball Bearings

Particularly if you have no brakes!

Also, the EADS bike was made with sintered nylon powder. I doubt that FDM
with our usual materials will have anywhere near the strength to make a
usable bike.


 
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