I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I
looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY
product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all
products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user
selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned
with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the
license information, and I found that any product with this license is
free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL
USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the
license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a
few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community.
I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and
messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned
by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to
consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions;
I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd
rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some
feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to
get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this
legally.
For starters, I'm not a lawer and this is not legal advice. I do however work for creative commons (as an software engineer), whatever that is worth.
I'm not familiar with the terms of the thingiverse license, but CC-BY is a tool we provide to allow authors to allow that kind of redistribution of their work, and allows you to compensate yourself for your efforts in doing so; provided that you follow the terms of the license (correct attribution). While you don't strictly have to reach out to the artists who use CC-BY, I'm sure they would appreciate it if you did so anyway. If you are planning on selling their work, it is also good practice to give something back to the artists, though not a legal obligation.
The NC (noncommercial) and ND (no derivatives) licenses are legal tools intended to be used in scenarios where artists are fine with individuals sharing their work, but are not comfortable with contributing it to the 'commons'.
Also, as Ron concisely pointed out; when in doubt, consult a lawyer =)
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Waldo <cwald...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey guys!
> I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I > looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY > product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all > products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user > selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned > with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the > license information, and I found that any product with this license is > free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL > USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the > license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a > few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community. > I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and > messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
> Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned > by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to > consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions; > I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd > rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some > feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to > get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this > legally.
> Thanks, > -Waldo
> Ps - Moderators, I'd love your feedback as well.
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Actually Waldo, that's the point. It's open source, i.e. available to
anyone, not any persons intellectual property - If you want to start a
business based off producing these designs for consumers who want them,
have at! But know that anyone else can do the same, so if you price
yourself a huge profit you'll probably find competition sprouting up.
For what you're talking about, there is no need to ask permission. One
thing to watch out for is "Share-Alike" type agreements, which basically
stipulate that you can't take a share-alike design licensed under GPL and
then derive a product from it that uses a different (non-open source)
license.
As long as you credit, and share the work you derive from the community
back to the community, you can't go wrong.
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Waldo <cwald...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey guys!
> I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I
> looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY
> product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all
> products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user
> selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned
> with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the
> license information, and I found that any product with this license is
> free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL
> USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the
> license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a
> few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community.
> I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and
> messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
> Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned
> by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to
> consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions;
> I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd
> rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some
> feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to
> get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this
> legally.
> Thanks,
> -Waldo
> Ps - Moderators, I'd love your feedback as well.
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I tried searching "Attributive - Creative Commons" and nothing came up. What items choose that license? I see "Attribution - Share Alike" and nothing came up. How are you searching by license? I am curious.
> I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I > looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY > product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all > products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user > selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned > with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the > license information, and I found that any product with this license is > free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL > USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the > license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a > few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community. > I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and > messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
> Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned > by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to > consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions; > I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd > rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some > feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to > get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this > legally.
> Thanks, > -Waldo
> Ps - Moderators, I'd love your feedback as well.
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> I tried searching "Attributive - Creative Commons" and nothing came up. What items choose that license? I see "Attribution - Share Alike" and nothing came up. How are you searching by license? I am curious.
> Thanks, > O.
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Waldo wrote:
>> Hey guys!
>> I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I >> looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY >> product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all >> products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user >> selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned >> with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the >> license information, and I found that any product with this license is >> free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL >> USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the >> license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a >> few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community. >> I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and >> messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
>> Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned >> by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to >> consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions; >> I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd >> rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some >> feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to >> get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this >> legally.
>> Thanks, >> -Waldo
>> Ps - Moderators, I'd love your feedback as well.
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OK. I guess I still don't see see a way to search for Non-Commerical vs "Attribution- Creative Commons", or is the original poster just looking at the the license of what they are interested in?
> On 2012-04-24, at 10:44 PM, Owen M Collins wrote:
>> I tried searching "Attributive - Creative Commons" and nothing came up. What items choose that license? I see "Attribution - Share Alike" and nothing came up. How are you searching by license? I am curious.
>> Thanks,
>> O.
>> On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Waldo wrote:
>>> Hey guys!
>>> I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I
>>> looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY
>>> product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all
>>> products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user
>>> selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned
>>> with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the
>>> license information, and I found that any product with this license is
>>> free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL
>>> USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the
>>> license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a
>>> few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community.
>>> I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and
>>> messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
>>> Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned
>>> by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to
>>> consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions;
>>> I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd
>>> rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some
>>> feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to
>>> get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this
>>> legally.
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Waldo
>>> Ps - Moderators, I'd love your feedback as well.
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "thingiverse" group.
>>> To post to this group, send email to thingiverse@googlegroups.com
>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>>> thingiverse+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com
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>>> http://groups.google.com/group/thingiverse?hl=en
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You get to the advanced search via the gear icon on the search page.
At the bottom of the form, you can limit your searches to CC licensed
stuff. It doesn't say "CC" anywhere on the page, but the option that
lets you limit your search is labeled "usage rights".
Be aware, if you open the link above and type in a new search term, it
won't limit by usage rights on the new search. Instead, use the
advanced search to do a new query
https://www.google.com/advanced_search
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Owen M Collins <ccstudio.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK. I guess I still don't see see a way to search for Non-Commerical vs
> "Attribution- Creative Commons", or is the original poster just looking at
> the the license of what they are interested in?
> O.
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Andrew Plumb wrote:
> On 2012-04-24, at 10:44 PM, Owen M Collins wrote:
> I tried searching "Attributive - Creative Commons" and nothing came up.
> What items choose that license? I see "Attribution - Share Alike" and
> nothing came up. How are you searching by license? I am curious.
> Thanks,
> O.
> On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Waldo wrote:
> Hey guys!
> I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I
> looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY
> product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all
> products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user
> selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned
> with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the
> license information, and I found that any product with this license is
> free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL
> USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the
> license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a
> few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community.
> I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and
> messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
> Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned
> by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to
> consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions;
> I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd
> rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some
> feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to
> get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this
> legally.
> Thanks,
> -Waldo
> Ps - Moderators, I'd love your feedback as well.
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> You get to the advanced search via the gear icon on the search page.
> At the bottom of the form, you can limit your searches to CC licensed
> stuff. It doesn't say "CC" anywhere on the page, but the option that
> lets you limit your search is labeled "usage rights".
> Be aware, if you open the link above and type in a new search term, it
> won't limit by usage rights on the new search. Instead, use the
> advanced search to do a new query
> https://www.google.com/advanced_search
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Owen M Collins <ccstudio.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> OK. I guess I still don't see see a way to search for Non-Commerical vs
>> "Attribution- Creative Commons", or is the original poster just looking at
>> the the license of what they are interested in?
>> O.
>> On Apr 24, 2012, at 10:59 PM, Andrew Plumb wrote:
>> On 2012-04-24, at 10:44 PM, Owen M Collins wrote:
>> I tried searching "Attributive - Creative Commons" and nothing came up.
>> What items choose that license? I see "Attribution - Share Alike" and
>> nothing came up. How are you searching by license? I am curious.
>> Thanks,
>> O.
>> On Apr 24, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Waldo wrote:
>> Hey guys!
>> I'm curious about something dealing with the thingiverse licenses. I
>> looked it up, and there are two licenses for each product. EVERY
>> product is subject to the thingiverse license. This means that all
>> products can be distributed to some extent. On top of that, each user
>> selects another license for each product they upload. I'm concerned
>> with the "Attributive - Creative Commons" License. I looked up the
>> license information, and I found that any product with this license is
>> free to distribute, share, make derivatives of, and make COMMERCIAL
>> USE OF. As long as a product is credited to the author's page, and the
>> license is mentioned, this all can happen. I'm looking to grab quite a
>> few models from thingiverse and use them for a 3D printing community.
>> I plan on crediting all authors, posting the license conditions, and
>> messaging authors to let them know that I'm using their work.
>> Can you guys see anything wrong with this? Technically (as mentioned
>> by one of the older thingiverse artists here) I don't even have to
>> consult artists to use their work when under the previous conditions;
>> I just have to credit them. I'm 95% sure that I am correct, but I'd
>> rather get some feedback before I jump on this. I'd prefer to get some
>> feedback from someone on the thingiverse team, but they are hard to
>> get a hold of. Please let me know if you see anything wrong with this
>> legally.
>> Thanks,
>> -Waldo
>> Ps - Moderators, I'd love your feedback as well.
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
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