I see a Potential of missus of this service and Product. 1. People will only be able to print out what they are allowed to. 2. Like record labels and Songs and Videos and Art of all types, the potential of people being overlooked, copied and third party intervention is high too. 3. they will have to Improve there instructions for setup. If the Video I saw on You-tube was any indication http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mil2vHtYeM&feature=related 4. Oh my Gawd another Nonrefillable Plastic Cartridge. 5. Magic Glue??? that the hell is that Just stick acrylic mix.
Oh that's even worse than we all imagined would come someday.
You have to activate your printer. Yep. Uh huh. DRM out the..
The video was comical to watch. Made it to around 7 minutes and had to reply to this thread. It's clear the guy is NOT doing some unboxing video at his home (with his own curtain hung up behind himself). No, he's probably somewhere at their company, being professionally filmed, and he was told something like "now we're not going to tell you how to do this - you're going to have to figure out how to do it yourself - but do the unboxing video as if we weren't here". He almost admits this somewhere around 7 min in when he gets confused and starts saying something like "I have to do this by myself" but stops himself from saying that. Painful to watch but I need to go back and finish.
Ugh. Be sure to activate your printers before trying to use them!
..Jeff
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On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Justin Schubert <justinjhcschub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I see a Potential of missus of this service and Product.
> 1. People will only be able to print out what they are allowed to.
> 2. Like record labels and Songs and Videos and Art of all types, the potential of people being overlooked, copied and third party intervention is high too.
> 3. they will have to Improve there instructions for setup. If the Video I saw on You-tube was any indication http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mil2vHtYeM&feature=related > 4. Oh my Gawd another Nonrefillable Plastic Cartridge.
> 5. Magic Glue??? that the hell is that Just stick acrylic mix.
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> Oh that's even worse than we all imagined would come someday.
> You have to activate your printer. Yep. Uh huh. DRM out the..
> The video was comical to watch. Made it to around 7 minutes and had to reply to this thread. It's clear the guy is NOT doing some unboxing video at his home (with his own curtain hung up behind himself). No, he's probably somewhere at their company, being professionally filmed, and he was told something like "now we're not going to tell you how to do this - you're going to have to figure out how to do it yourself - but do the unboxing video as if we weren't here". He almost admits this somewhere around 7 min in when he gets confused and starts saying something like "I have to do this by myself" but stops himself from saying that. Painful to watch but I need to go back and finish.
> Ugh. Be sure to activate your printers before trying to use them!
> ..Jeff
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Justin Schubert <justinjhcschub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I see a Potential of missus of this service and Product.
>> 1. People will only be able to print out what they are allowed to.
>> 2. Like record labels and Songs and Videos and Art of all types, the potential of people being overlooked, copied and third party intervention is high too.
>> 3. they will have to Improve there instructions for setup. If the Video I saw on You-tube was any indication http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mil2vHtYeM&feature=related >> 4. Oh my Gawd another Nonrefillable Plastic Cartridge.
>> 5. Magic Glue??? that the hell is that Just stick acrylic mix.
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I recently got one out of pure curiosity. It joins my 3 RepRap printers including ToM and Replicator, a Solidoodle and a 3D Systems 3D Touch so I have a good feel for the open and closed worlds. My predisposition was to both want to laugh it off and despise it (from a purely techno-arrogant point of view). Honestly, I have been pleasantly surprised. Let's keep in mind who this device is aimed at, entry level people who think a slicer is used to make your deli sandwich.
Not going to do a full review here but here are a few interesting points:
1. Yes the activation is dopey and probably will be used for some sort of rights management for selling models in the future but it prints slices and prints any .stl so who cares? You are not limited in anyway. They could conceivably lock it down with a firmware change in the future 2. Was up and running in 5 minutes - leveling and setting the Z offset very easy and has not required any fiddling even after 100 hrs of printing. 3. The magic glue is great stuff. Is water soluble (likely Guar Gum), ABS has never failed to stick. I now use it on other printers - better than hairspray, and without the particulates to gum up your gear 4. The cartridges load very easily and swap out easily 5. I watched those videos by Tom Meeks and also thought he was part of the company or hired by and I contacted him directly. He claims he is not affiliated, seems genuine. You may know FCC requires bloggers to disclose such affiliations (haha) 6. It is reliable but not accurate. Model dimensions drift a lot and there is no way to dial it in. 7. The touch screen and on board software is derived from the 3D Touch 8. It successfully printed @Dizingof's Dupin Cycloid (my benchmarking model), first shot no problem - 9 hr print - picture enclosed. Some retraction issues but respectable job, picture attached. 9. This is strictly a preset .25/30 layer/feedrate printer - my bet is it is detuned and could do better. 10. They have succeeded in making it fiddle-free, something to say for ABS. Makerbot has gone to PLA to get Rep2 fiddle-free (hopefully).
The net-net is I have my 11 year old daughter printing with it and she loves it, and that is who it is made for. It IS the most consumer-ready device I have seen yet. But my guess is they are in the market too early with a device that is too expensive for what it does. Now if that got the price to $399 and built an iPad App to drive it. They just might have something.
On Sunday, October 7, 2012 3:29:48 PM UTC-7, Justin Schubert wrote:
> I see a Potential of missus of this service and Product. > 1. People will only be able to print out what they are allowed to. > 2. Like record labels and Songs and Videos and Art of all types, the > potential of people being overlooked, copied and third party intervention > is high too. > 3. they will have to Improve there instructions for setup. If the Video I > saw on You-tube was any indication > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mil2vHtYeM&feature=related > 4. Oh my Gawd another Nonrefillable Plastic Cartridge. > 5. Magic Glue??? that the hell is that Just stick acrylic mix.
> Oh that's even worse than we all imagined would come someday.
> You have to activate your printer. Yep. Uh huh. DRM out the..
> The video was comical to watch. Made it to around 7 minutes and had to reply to this thread. It's clear the guy is NOT doing some unboxing video at his home (with his own curtain hung up behind himself). No, he's probably somewhere at their company, being professionally filmed, and he was told something like "now we're not going to tell you how to do this - you're going to have to figure out how to do it yourself - but do the unboxing video as if we weren't here". He almost admits this somewhere around 7 min in when he gets confused and starts saying something like "I have to do this by myself" but stops himself from saying that. Painful to watch but I need to go back and finish.
> Ugh. Be sure to activate your printers before trying to use them!
> ..Jeff
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 7, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Justin Schubert <justinjhcschub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I see a Potential of missus of this service and Product.
>> 1. People will only be able to print out what they are allowed to.
>> 2. Like record labels and Songs and Videos and Art of all types, the potential of people being overlooked, copied and third party intervention is high too.
>> 3. they will have to Improve there instructions for setup. If the Video I saw on You-tube was any indication http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mil2vHtYeM&feature=related >> 4. Oh my Gawd another Nonrefillable Plastic Cartridge.
>> 5. Magic Glue??? that the hell is that Just stick acrylic mix.
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Barry, you must be super rich. I only have the Replicator and am about to pull the trigger on a RepRap, the Printrbot. You have 7 printers! Wow! BTW, please don't go crazy over my comment. For some odd reason, whenever I say someone is rich, they go crazy trying to prove that they're not. It's a compliment.
I'm surprised you have a Solidoodle because I heard on their google groups that they sell a lot more than they can ship them. There is a huge backlog because their website says "in stock" but it never is. There is a long lead time. How long did you have to wait?
Is there a MSDS that comes with the magic glue? By law they have to have a MSDS? (not sure) I want some of that magic glue. I heard fhat the guy who designed the cube 3d printer invented 3d printers in the 80's (don't know if this is true.)
On Monday, October 8, 2012 5:03:32 PM UTC-5, Barry Schuler wrote:
> I recently got one out of pure curiosity. It joins my 3 RepRap printers > including ToM and Replicator, a Solidoodle and a 3D Systems 3D Touch so I > have a good feel for the open and closed worlds.
I certainly invited that conclusion when I disclosed how many printers I have. I am not offended as I have worked very hard for every penny I have made.
I didn't see an MSDS for Superglue - looks, feels and smells like a food gum that activates with heat.
I can't claim an absolute favorite yet, they all have their quirks and seem to be good at different things. Replicator is generally my go-to, I now run it exclusively PLA. Solidoodle is a very good ABS printer - once dialed in and using Repetier as front end. 3D Touch is the most accurate/repeatable but very slow. As I said the Cube is great for kids, education market.
The wildcard is Replicator2, which is on its way. I saw it in action at Makerbot this summer and I expect it is absolutely going to smoke everything on the market, even the industrial machines that print at .125. We will see soon enough.
On Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:00:29 PM UTC-7, Elbot wrote:
> Barry, you must be super rich. I only have the Replicator and am about to > pull the trigger on a RepRap, the Printrbot. You have 7 printers! Wow! BTW, > please don't go crazy over my comment. For some odd reason, whenever I say > someone is rich, they go crazy trying to prove that they're not. It's a > compliment.
> I'm surprised you have a Solidoodle because I heard on their google groups > that they sell a lot more than they can ship them. There is a huge backlog > because their website says "in stock" but it never is. There is a long lead > time. How long did you have to wait?
> Is there a MSDS that comes with the magic glue? By law they have to have a > MSDS? (not sure) I want some of that magic glue. I heard fhat the guy who > designed the cube 3d printer invented 3d printers in the 80's (don't know > if this is true.)
> Which one is your favorite 3d printer?
> Thanks!
> On Monday, October 8, 2012 5:03:32 PM UTC-5, Barry Schuler wrote:
>> I recently got one out of pure curiosity. It joins my 3 RepRap printers >> including ToM and Replicator, a Solidoodle and a 3D Systems 3D Touch so I >> have a good feel for the open and closed worlds.
