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Re: pids owned by root

wayneeseg...@gmail.com (Wayne Seguin) — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:28:35 UT

Curtis,
That'd be the one.

Re: Using Rails 2.1 + Thin to do debugging?

william.yeung...@gmail.com (goodwill) — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:33:05 UT

Tested with thin 1.0 and seems debug doesn't work either, how does
thin start -D suppose to work?

Re: pids owned by root

curtis.summ...@gmail.com (Curtis Summers) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:03:29 UT

Wayne, are you refering to mongrel_rails loading Rails before writing the
pid? ([link]).
Yes, I'm sure that could be a problem!
--Curtis
We have run into issues

Re: pids owned by root

wayneeseg...@gmail.com (Wayne Seguin) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:17:51 UT

IF you do delay the pidfile drop please make it an option to *not*
delay the drop :)
pidfile dropping as early as possible is very important when running
under monitoring software (such as monit) as this is generally what is
used to determine if your process is running. We have run into issues

Re: [ANN] Thin 1.0.0 That's What She Said release

wayneeseg...@gmail.com (Wayne Seguin) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:15:57 UT

Nicely done Marc-André. Great work. Thank you *very* much for your
contribution to the community.

~Wayne

Re: pids owned by root

curtis.summ...@gmail.com (Curtis Summers) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:18:50 UT

So, some of the rub here is that, traditionally, pid files for the system in
/var/run/ are owned by root. This is not always the case, though.
Postgresql on Ubuntu runs under the postgres user and it's pid files under
/var/run are owned by postgres.
If it's any help, mongrel appears to create the pid files owned by the

Re: pids owned by root

curtis.summ...@gmail.com (Curtis Summers) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:44:28 UT

Delaying the pid creation makes the most sense to me. I would think that
any files created by thin (be they pids, logs, etc.) should be created with
the user/group specified in the config. In other words, *all* actions taken
by thin should be executed as the user/group specified.
Curtis

Re: pids owned by root

macourno...@gmail.com (macournoyer) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:38:49 UT

hmm, that's an interesting issue. Either we delay the creation of the
pid file or you manually chown it.
I wonder if delaying the creation of the pid file after privileges are
dropped could cause any issue.

Any idea?

Re: pids owned by root

adambyr...@gmail.com (Adam Byrtek) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:59:08 UT

One scenario I could imagine is that sometimes you don't want to give
a root access to the person who will deploy the app.
Regards,
Adam

Re: pids owned by root

kev...@gmail.com (Kevin Williams) — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 00:16:36 UT

Can the deployment script run the restart process under sudo or as
root? It seems OK to me to have daemon processes run as an
unprivileged user but daemon processes be only controllable by root. I
don't admin linux boxes for a living, though, so I probably don't know
the best practices.
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Curtis Summers

pids owned by root

curtis.summ...@gmail.com (Curtis Summers) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:08:52 UT

Congrats on getting 1.0 out the door! I've been using thin for about
6 months now and have been really happy with it.

Not sure if this is technically a bug, but I'm having an issue with
the following use case:

1) I have a user/group specified in my config to run thin as an
unprivileged user.

Re: [ANN] Thin 1.0.0 That's What She Said release

michael.s.klis...@gmail.com (Michael Klishin) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:53:08 UT

2008/9/30 Marc-André Cournoyer <macourno...@gmail.com>:
Thin is very very good piece of software. And dead simple to understand.
I learned a few things from it's design.
Thank you and congrats.

[ANN] Thin 1.0.0 That's What She Said release

macourno...@gmail.com (Marc-André Cournoyer) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:13:57 UT

To: thin-ruby@googlegroups.com, ruby-t...@ruby-lang.org
Hey all,
Thin version 1.0.0 (codename That's What She Said) is out!
Yes 1.0! That doesn't mean it's bug free or anything. But, it does
mean that it's been running on a number of servers and no show stopper
bugs have been found since a while.

Re: thin_parser makefile change needed

justi...@gmail.com (cheapRoc) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:38:41 UT

Your right, I have several installations of Ruby on my system
(Leopard's, my compiled 1.8.6, 1.9 and REE). I guess that's why the
path was added.

Not sure about the Rubyforge version, I almost never install from
prepackaged gems. I like to run specs before installing.

-j

Re: thin_parser makefile change needed

macourno...@gmail.com (macournoyer) — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 00:17:38 UT

hey j,

the makefile is generated by the ext/thin_parser/extconf.rb script,
you might have 2 versions of Ruby installed on your system.

Is the gem version on Rubyforge working for you?