> i think it's good to discuss about issues to get clear in our minds. a calm
> and fruitful discussion is also possible. i find it important to write to
> here as a platform of alternative minds.
> i support the argument that nato should go out everywhere. and i think there
> is wider view of understanding the universe other than the nation states
> level. to criticise nato from nationalistic perspective doesn't bring us
> anywhere. i don't like the writing of independence with quotes. for me it is
> the same when i, as a turkish citizen, would write 'independence' of kurds
> , which means socalled.
> i travelled on bike through serbia, bosnia, croatia for 6 months, shooting a
> film about the war , making interviews, i've seen many types of nationalism.
> in serbia one of the nationalistic issues was "kosovo is ours". this is very
> much promoted along with the issue of nato bombings & serbian identity
> situated against global homogenization. the separation is kept alive as they
> put the issues into each other and knot them together. in kosovo also it is
> hard for serbian/croatian/bosnian speakers, as the same nationalistic drive
> is at work , only contrarywise, so with other names.
> somebody has to start to do something else, no?......
> i wish the time and a clearniess come to us, that we can separate the issues
> from each other and be able to think in the universal level, instead of
> keeping the heat of hate burn. i personally feel it as i fell in love with
> the region&people of ex-yugoslavia. who is suffering again are the people
> of both lands and not the nationalist politicians, who are treated as heroes
> now in their countries.
> at the end i just want to say i dont generalize but talk about the
> tendencies & i talk about issues , not the persons.
> thanks if you came till here. ___
> asli
> --- Lütfi KOÇYİĞİT <lkocyi...@istanbulcerrahi.com> schrieb am Mi, 25.3.2009:
> Von: Lütfi KOÇYİĞİT <lkocyi...@istanbulcerrahi.com>
> Betreff: Re: [Biketour] 10 years after the NATO bombardment of Serbia
> An: COL110-W3624A438A616C56F2CD6CDD...@phx.gbl
> CC: biket...@lists.eyfa.org
> Datum: Mittwoch, 25. März 2009, 14:26
> I thank Milan for defending Serbian people's right to live on a clean and
> peaceful life as an environmentalist biker from Balkans. Hoping not to start
> a useless argument on who started things first or who is right or wrong, I
> just want to add that we must also give it to the ethnic Albanians, their
> simple right to live on. An environmentalist should always question his or
> her own role and responsibility on a peaceful nature first without
> discriminating some others. Once again, lets thank Milan for condemning NATO
> bombings ( whatever the reason no mass aggression can be justified ! ) and
> any other forms of killing people and forcing them from their natural
> environment.
> NATO out of everywhere !
> Lutfi Kocyigit
> Ecotopia 08
> Istanbul
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