Welcome

[Jim Bay]

Welcome to the new home of the Theatre-Sound list. After 12 years of
(usually great) service from AOL, it is now time to move on to a place
where there will be technical support in case the list has a problem.

Note that the older archives will remain available at http://brooklyn.com/theatre-sound/
for the time being. New archives will accumulate here as posts come
in.

You may set your subscription options here on Google Groups to receive
messages as email, as an email digest, or to only read the group via
the web. Use the "Edit My Membership" Link to the right to change your
settings.

Jim

[John Leonard]

Trying again to post to say Hello to Jim.

Best wishes,

John

On May 31, 6:35 pm, Jim Bay <jim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome to the new home of the Theatre-Sound list. After 12 years of
> (usually great) service from AOL, it is now time to move on to a place
> where there will be technical support in case the list has a problem.
>

> Note that the older archives will remain available athttp://brooklyn.com/theatre-sound/

[jer...@jjlee.com]

Seems like the new group is working...

[Charlie]

Hey hey hey!!

Glad to see this on here. Now I will delete the substitute
googlegroups list that I had set up when the aol server went down some
time ago.....

Charlie

[Charlie Richmond]

On Sat, 31 May 2008, jer...@jjlee.com wrote:

> Seems like the new group is working...

Hmmm.... looks like it's configured so the list doesn't send your own posts
back to you....

Charlie

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[Jim Bay]

it's my intention to let people join for a few days and then go back
and re-set the "new members must be approved before posting"
preference to "on" to hopefully keep the spam down. But for now,
everyone should be able to post upon joining.

There are some other features available here that we can experiment
with once we get rolling, such as group-built web pages, group files,
etc.

[Charlie Richmond]

On Sat, 31 May 2008, Charlie Richmond wrote:

> Hmmm.... looks like it's configured so the list doesn't send your own posts
> back to you....

Nope, it sends the ones sent by email but not the ones posted on the web site.
Interesting....

C-)

[John Leonard]

OK, got it sorted - I have two membership names on Google Groups and was
trying to post from the wrong one to start with.

This should be from my proper email address, not my gmail one.

Let's see if it works.

Best wishes,

John

[Mike Benonis]

Check 1, 2. Check, Check...

Let's see if this works or not.

Best regards,

Mike Benonis
Electrical Engineering '09
Department of Drama Sound Engineer
The University of Virginia
mj...@virginia.edu
(703) 577-3788
KI4RIX

[Thomas Vecchione]

Welcome to the party I suppose. Strange thing is that it is still
showing 0 members in the group;)

Thomas Vecchione

[Charlie Richmond]

On Sat, 31 May 2008, Thomas Vecchione wrote:

> Welcome to the party I suppose. Strange thing is that it is still
> showing 0 members in the group;)

Yep, that's obviously some kind of quirk related to the fact that anyone can
post right now I think.

Stand by for spam ;-)

C-)

[Charlie Richmond]

On Sat, 31 May 2008, Charlie Richmond wrote:

> Yep, that's obviously some kind of quirk related to the fact that anyone can
> post right now I think.

Hmmmm... nope it says anyone can join but only mmember can post. So obviously
it's a feature ;-)

C-)

[Charlie Richmond]

On Sat, 31 May 2008, Charlie Richmond wrote:

> Hmmmm... nope it says anyone can join but only mmember can post. So obviously
> it's a feature ;-)

Yep - it's a feature related to the fact that it's configured so only managers
can see the members list. For everyone else there are no members they can view.

C-)

[David "Squeege" Weigant]

Why, hello everyone. Hopefully this new list will continue to be as
helpful and as informative as the old one.

[Bruce C. Olson]

Is this %:*^ Mic on. ;-)

Bruce

On Sat, 31 May 2008 17:35:07 UT, theatre-sound Google Group wrote:
> Welcome Welcome to the new home of the Theatre-Sound list. After 12

> years of (usually great) service from AOL, it is now time to move
> on to a place where there will be technical support in case the
> list has a problem.
>
>

> Note that the older archives will remain available at [link]

--
Bruce C. Olson
Olson Sound Design
Web Page:       http://www.OlsonSound.com
Business:       mailto:BCO...@OlsonSound.com
Big Band Web:   http://www.BRBB.org

[Andre Vare]

Thanks Jim. Congratulations on the new server with Google!

Andre

[Gary Trenda]

Bruce C. Olson wrote:
"Is this %:*^ Mic on. ;-)"

one... two... one... two... :-)

-Gary

[sam kusnetz]

obligatory check...

sk

[Mike Benonis]

Jim,
Is it possible to remove the [theatre-sound-list] from the subject
line (or make it optional)?

[Charlie Richmond]

On Sat, 31 May 2008, Mike Benonis wrote:

> Is it possible to remove the [theatre-sound-list] from the subject

Noooooooooooooo...............

> line (or make it optional)?

Yesssssssssssssssss.........

C-)

[Steven Devino]

That's what I use to auto sort
Steven Devino

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Benonis <mailin...@benonis.net>

Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 18:27:50
To:theatre-s...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [theatre-sound-list] Re: Welcome

[Bruce C. Olson]

Yup, me too, it is so much easier with [theatre-sound-list] always in the subject.

If you don't want to see it, just have your MUA remove it while downloading.

Bruce

On Sat, 31 May 2008 22:55:06 +0000, Steven Devino wrote:
> That's what I use to auto sort
> Steven Devino
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Benonis <mailin...@benonis.net>
>

> Jim,
> Is it possible to remove the [theatre-sound-list] from the subject
> line (or make it optional)?
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mike Benonis

--

[John Stryker]

I agree that it is good for mail sorting and also to identify the source since I subscribe to multiple forums from the same id. But it might be worth shortening it (ex. maybe something like [TSL] ) because it does take up a chunk of Subject line space. Subscribers will know what it means. 

--
Regards, John
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[Thomas Vecchione]

Cue the obligatory feedback squeal;)

      Thomas Vecchione

[Eric McFall]

Anyone happen to have a pinout configuration to wire in a standard
dynamic mic (AKA, no DC wanted) into the 1/8" TRS Sennheiser Evolution
series mic transmitter? Sennheiser has been less that forthcoming
with the information and I really simply don't have the time to
experiment too much at this point. Thanks!

- Eric McFall
- Audio Engineer for Cirque du Soleil's "O" at the Bellagio, Las Vegas
- Owner & Designer of Audio Force Designs, Las Vegas

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[Jim Bay]

re: the subject line header, when more of us get here, we'll put it to
a vote ;-)

[page daniel]

Eric,

Everything I have seen with Sennheiser 1/8 connectors has been connected
unbalanced with the ring and the tip shorted together.

Sennheiser guitar cables run hot to ring and shield to tip and sleeve.

I don't know if this gets rid of the phantom power. If I had a Sennheiser
pack here now I could tell pretty quickly where the DC was with a volt
meter and a junk box connector.

That's all I know about Sennheiser. Maybe it will help.

page daniel

[page daniel]

One other thing.

Sennheiser makes an xlr cable to run line into a wireless pack. It
connects pin 2 the ring as that is the line in for a Sennheiser pack.
I have never seen an XLR mic in for a Sennheiser.

Shure is so much easier.... I have cables like you describe XLR to TA4F.

page

[Gary Trenda]

one... two... one... two...

-Gary

[Bob Howes]

Test one, tw..zzzzzzt zzzzzt...ne, two, on..zzzzzt.

Dang, thought I'd fixed that lead.

Well, I found my way in here, though it took three tries to register--
their "type these characters exactly as you see them" box was so
security conscious as to be unreadable on the first two tries.

Thanks to Jim for taking the effort to keep this going in the face of
AOL "support". I hope this means I'll stop getting original posts
four or five days after I start seeing replies!

Bob

[Justice C. Bigler]

Just a test reply to see if I got my membership set right.

I forwarded your message to the Pro Sound Web, in case there were
members over there who were not contacted (or potential new members).

-Justice C. Bigler

On May 31, 12:35 pm, Jim Bay <jim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome to the new home of the Theatre-Sound list. After 12 years of
> (usually great) service from AOL, it is now time to move on to a place
> where there will be technical support in case the list has a problem.
>

> Note that the older archives will remain available athttp://brooklyn.com/theatre-sound/
> for the time being. New archives will accumulate here as posts come
> in.
>
> You may set your subscription options here on Google Groups to receive
> messages as email, as an email digest, or to only read the group via
> the web. Use the "Edit My Membership" Link to the right to change your
> settings.
>
> Jim

[Matt Stoody]

Thanks for keeping the list "strong and free", Jim.

Matt Stoody

[Tom Cavnar]

Hey all!

Just checking that my subscription is making it back to my email inbox...

Many thanks to Jim Bay for keeping the list going!!

[Karl P]

Just a lurker, but I to wanted to say thanks for keeping it going.

Karl P

[johnarrow]

On May 31, 6:35 pm, Jim Bay <jim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Welcome to the new home of the Theatre-Sound list. After 12 years of
> (usually great) service from AOL, it is now time to move on to a place
> where there will be technical support in case the list has a problem.

Hello, Jim, at almost 8am on a wet Tuesday morning in Yorkshire, UK.

Trust that this reply gets through, and will be interesting to see the
first GoogleGroups digest email appear :)

Elderly John (voluntary stage sweeper-upper etc, still waking up after
the last major events of the UK Rock Challenge 2008 tour on Friday and
Saturday - http://www.rockchallenge.co.uk :)

[Dave]

Testing..testing...

ahem...Four Score and Seven Years Ago......

Thanks, Jim.

Dave

[Christopher Ashworth]

On May 31, 1:35 pm, Jim Bay <jim...@gmail.com> wrote:

> You may set your subscription options here on Google Groups to receive
> messages as email, as an email digest, or to only read the group via
> the web. Use the "Edit My Membership" Link to the right to change your
> settings.

I'm afraid I'm being dense:

Having joined the group, and added other email addresses to my Google
account profile, it still appears to only be possible to deliver the
group posts to my GMail account. (The other addresses are not
available as an option for delivery.) Problem is, I don't really use
my GMail account.

Is there a way to have posts sent to a non-gmail email address?

Waiting expectantly to whack forehead with palm,
Chris

[Mr. Emery Roth III]

Log on to your gmail account, go to settings, click "fowarding and
pop/imap" the top section of that screen will allow you to enter an
email address to foward all the mail from that gmail account to
wherever you want. Oh yeah, then smack forehead. But please do it
with something soft, we're all waiting for Qlab 2!

--Emery

[Phil Genera]

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Mr. Emery Roth III <eroth...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Log on to your gmail account, go to settings, click "fowarding and
> pop/imap" the top section of that screen will allow you to enter an
> email address to foward all the mail from that gmail account to
> wherever you want. Oh yeah, then smack forehead. But please do it
> with something soft, we're all waiting for Qlab 2!

Alternatively, if you only want to forward this list and not all mail
to your gmail address:
- log into gmail
- click 'settings' in the upper right
- click 'filters' in the middle-ish
- 'create a new filter' at the bottom
- put: list:theatre-sound in the box labeled "Has the words"
- next step
- select 'forward it to: ' and put an appropriate address in that box.
- select create filter.

its way more complicated, but also neater!

--
Phil G.

[John B. Sibley]

You can also create a google account that is NOT associated with a
gmail address but with whatever address you'd like to use, and
subscribe using that login.

Create account here:
https://www.google.com/accounts/ManageAccount

I have google accounts associated with gmail addresses and non-gmail,
non-google addresses.

-J

On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Mr. Emery Roth III wrote:

>
> Log on to your gmail account, go to settings, click "fowarding and
> pop/imap" the top section of that screen will allow you to enter an
> email address to foward all the mail from that gmail account to
> wherever you want. Oh yeah, then smack forehead. But please do it
> with something soft, we're all waiting for Qlab 2!
>
> --Emery
>>>
>>

>> I'm afraid I'm being dense:
>>
>> Having joined the group, and added other email addresses to my Google
>> account profile, it still appears to only be possible to deliver the
>> group posts to my GMail account. (The other addresses are not
>> available as an option for delivery.) Problem is, I don't really use
>> my GMail account.
>>
>> Is there a way to have posts sent to a non-gmail email address?
>>
>> Waiting expectantly to whack forehead with palm,
>> Chris
>>>
>

--
John B. Sibley - A2, Mel Brooks' Young Frankenstein
http://foryourentertainment.blogspot.com - your daily dose of fun
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who cannot hear the
music."
-George Carlin

[Anne Davis]

You can also associate multiple email addresses to the same account -
simply go here:

https://www.google.com/accounts/ManageAccount

and click on "Edit" beside personal information. At the bottom you can
add an additional email address. It goes through a "verification"
process by sending you an email and having you click on the link.

Then after that, you can go to the same page above and click on "Manage
subscriptions" beside groups. Beside the group name, just use the Email
drop-down menu to select which email address you want the group to go to.

>>> Having joined the group, and added other email addresses to my Google
>>> account profile, it still appears to only be possible to deliver the
>>> group posts to my GMail account. (The other addresses are not
>>> available as an option for delivery.) Problem is, I don't really use
>>> my GMail account.

I think I had to log out of my Google account and log back in to get the
new address to show up on the "Manage subscriptions" page after
verification, but it showed up eventually. Make sure you go through the
email verification, and give it time. Maybe it just doesn't update that
page immediately. I thought this was much easier than making multiple
Google accounts, and forwarding doesn't seem like the best way to do it
either.

Anne.

[Jim Bay]

If you have a gmail account but want to receive the list via another
email address, do this:

Go to http://groups.google.com/groups/theatre-sound-list on the web

Go to the "Edit My Membership" link on the right hand side of the
page.

Set the "How do you want to read this group?" option to "no email, I
will read this group on the web".

Then, from the email address you want to receive the group on, send a
blank email to
theatre-sound-...@googlegroups.com

That should work. If not, somebody correct me so I can add the proper
sequence to a FAQ.

[Carleton Underwood]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Bay" <jim...@gmail.com>
To: "theatre-sound" <theatre-s...@googlegroups.com>
>
> Then, from the email address you want to receive the group on, send a
> blank email to
> theatre-sound-...@googlegroups.com
>

This works very well all by itself - you don't have to do anything with
Google Groups - just send a blank e-mail to the addy above.

Carl

[Becca Sullins]

I had this problem... I fixed it by unsubscribing from my gmail
account... sending a blank email to the
theatre-sound-l...@googlegroups.com. Then you have to go to
the address you do want to receive the list on, and send an email to the
theatre-sound-...@googlegroups.com address. When I did it, it
told me that I was already subscribed and some other random error
messages, but it worked!

I now receive the list in the correct mailbox!

Rebecca Sullins - CTS
Senior Design Engineer
Sound Image
Nashville, TN
Tel: 615.256.0528 x30
Fax: 615.256.9945
Cell: 615.516.8123

[Charlie Richmond]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Becca Sullins wrote:

> I had this problem... I fixed it by unsubscribing from my gmail
> account... sending a blank email to the
> theatre-sound-l...@googlegroups.com. Then you have to go to
> the address you do want to receive the list on, and send an email to the
> theatre-sound-...@googlegroups.com address. When I did it, it
> told me that I was already subscribed and some other random error
> messages, but it worked!

After witnessing how many problems people have with googlegroups, I have to say
I'm glad Jim Bay is managing this one. I know people have strong feelings about
yahoogroups vs googlegroups but I have to say that I don't have anywhere near
this much trouble managing my 10 yahoogroups lists ;-)

C-)

[Jim Bay]

> yahoogroups vs googlegroups but I have to say that I don't have anywhere near
> this much trouble managing my 10 yahoogroups lists ;-)

So far, google groups have been a dream. The only quirk is if you have
a google account, they default to signing you up via that address
(which makes sense). Personally, I only read the list via the web, so
there may be other "features" I've not yet witnessed...

[Jim Bay]

now that the spam has started....I've reset the groups so that new
members' posts must be approved before they'll be sent to the list.

[Charlie Richmond]

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Jim Bay wrote:

> now that the spam has started....I've reset the groups so that new
> members' posts must be approved before they'll be sent to the list.

*Bravo*

C-)

[page daniel]

On the original Sennheiser thread.

I just received some E6 replacement cables for Sennheiser Evo's that I had
drop shipped from Countryman. I checked the wiring. They were still the
old "wrong" way of shorting the high level input to the microphone input
instead of connecting it to ground. I should have ordered bare cables,
and made my own I guess.

page daniel