From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
times a day are you willing to let this happen?
You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
- and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
thought. Not wise.
Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
lose those people forever.
Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
to beta. Who the hell knows.
The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
slip away.
Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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What is really really sad to me is that Andy had the opportunity to become a huge success story. Instead he's in line for the reward for the biggest blunder, standing right behind the poor dolt that lost his iPhone prototype.
The only reason I'm still hanging in here is that The HIt List...well...it works like I do™
Translation from a desktop app to iPhone app shouldn't be that big of a leap, unless The Hit List is written in something other than Objective C, C, or C++, in which case the delay very well could be Andy needing to learn something new. If this is the case, with The Hit List's initial success, Andy would have had seasoned iPhone developers lining up around the block for a chance to write The Hit List's iPhone app.
Oh well. I've all but given up. I just can't bring myself to use anything else but The Hit List...because...it works like I do™ ;-)
> From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
> Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
> devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
> Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
> feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
> when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
> full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
> all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
> OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
> to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
> drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
> to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
> times a day are you willing to let this happen?
> You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
> the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
> you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
> people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
> recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
> and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
> I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
> from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
> one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
> for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
> you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
> failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
> quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
> technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
> You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
> iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
> ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
> the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
> - and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
> where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
> thought. Not wise.
> Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
> Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
> talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
> lose those people forever.
> Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
> up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
> were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
> challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
> to beta. Who the hell knows.
> The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
> of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
> nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
> bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
> are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
> you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
> slip away.
> Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
> version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
> enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
> where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
> real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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Yeah ditto. I won't switch to anything else. THL is literally
perfect for what I'm doing and the way I work. But if I knew right
now that it was dead and potentially one day might just stop working
after an OS upgrade or something I'd probably jump ship pretty
quickly. I don't like surprises.
My original post is not to put Andy down. I admire his work
tremendously. I'm just watching this all happen and can't help but
think WTF?! It's just a damn shame to see an app of this calibre sink
simply because the developer is choosing to wear cement shoes.
Bummer.
On Apr 20, 12:59 pm, Joe Kueser <joe.kue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is really really sad to me is that Andy had the opportunity to become a huge success story. Instead he's in line for the reward for the biggest blunder, standing right behind the poor dolt that lost his iPhone prototype.
> The only reason I'm still hanging in here is that The HIt List...well...it works like I do™
> Translation from a desktop app to iPhone app shouldn't be that big of a leap, unless The Hit List is written in something other than Objective C, C, or C++, in which case the delay very well could be Andy needing to learn something new. If this is the case, with The Hit List's initial success, Andy would have had seasoned iPhone developers lining up around the block for a chance to write The Hit List's iPhone app.
> Oh well. I've all but given up. I just can't bring myself to use anything else but The Hit List...because...it works like I do™ ;-)
> On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
> > From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
> > Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
> > devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
> > Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
> > feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
> > when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
> > full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
> > all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
> > OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
> > to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
> > drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
> > to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
> > times a day are you willing to let this happen?
> > You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
> > the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
> > you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
> > people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
> > recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
> > and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
> > I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
> > from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
> > one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
> > for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
> > you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
> > failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
> > quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
> > technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
> > You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
> > iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
> > ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
> > the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
> > - and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
> > where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
> > thought. Not wise.
> > Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
> > Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
> > talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
> > lose those people forever.
> > Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
> > up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
> > were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
> > challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
> > to beta. Who the hell knows.
> > The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
> > of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
> > nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
> > bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
> > are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
> > you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
> > slip away.
> > Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
> > version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
> > enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
> > where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
> > real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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People relax..if it breaks from an Os update so what..we can switch to
something else.
it is just a to do application (or lists if you prefer).You can switch
to whatever you want anytime.
I can assure you that in 2 hours i can move my lists in omnifocus(ex
user)
or things or whatever the future will bring.
I remember the days when i was a pc user and switched to a mac when
apple bought
Logic Audio from Emagic..that was a painful switch but still i made
it.
If you worry that much for every piece of software you have..that's a
major problem.
Software is just a tool to make our life or job easier but nothing is
irreplaceable.
But i have to agree watching this forum and @thehitlist twitter search
everyday there is a new user that abandonds this train and the lack
of
communication does not help at all.
But lets say that Andy was actively participating in this group
what would change? nothing!! there would be more angry users talking
about the lack of iphone app and if you read previous posts
you can clearly see that this happened all the time and that's why
Andy
don't even visit this group anymore.
Textmate developer closed the replies in his blog posts cause everyone
kept asking
about the status of textmate and in the end he stopped posting.
People who need their lists on iphone or ipad they will find something
else no matter what
it is an important feature for them and hit list can fulfill that for
now.
It is simple facts.
Communication would help the rest of us who don't need
so much our lists on iphone or ipad or have found other ways..
Personally i use ical synch or print to a paper..yes this is so before
iphone era
but that's fine with me.i think hit list for iphone is just an add-on
or a feature
and nothing else.
Shame that many indie developers found the iphone as a great platform
to program
but as it seems it may kill Andy's business and his great
application.
On Apr 21, 1:51 am, "Muad'Dib" <dotmacsubscri...@mac.com> wrote:
> Yeah ditto. I won't switch to anything else. THL is literally
> perfect for what I'm doing and the way I work. But if I knew right
> now that it was dead and potentially one day might just stop working
> after an OS upgrade or something I'd probably jump ship pretty
> quickly. I don't like surprises.
> My original post is not to put Andy down. I admire his work
> tremendously. I'm just watching this all happen and can't help but
> think WTF?! It's just a damn shame to see an app of this calibre sink
> simply because the developer is choosing to wear cement shoes.
> Bummer.
> On Apr 20, 12:59 pm, Joe Kueser <joe.kue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well said.
> > What is really really sad to me is that Andy had the opportunity to become a huge success story. Instead he's in line for the reward for the biggest blunder, standing right behind the poor dolt that lost his iPhone prototype.
> > The only reason I'm still hanging in here is that The HIt List...well...it works like I do™
> > Translation from a desktop app to iPhone app shouldn't be that big of a leap, unless The Hit List is written in something other than Objective C, C, or C++, in which case the delay very well could be Andy needing to learn something new. If this is the case, with The Hit List's initial success, Andy would have had seasoned iPhone developers lining up around the block for a chance to write The Hit List's iPhone app.
> > Oh well. I've all but given up. I just can't bring myself to use anything else but The Hit List...because...it works like I do™ ;-)
> > On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
> > > From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
> > > Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
> > > devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
> > > Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
> > > feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
> > > when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
> > > full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
> > > all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
> > > OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
> > > to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
> > > drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
> > > to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
> > > times a day are you willing to let this happen?
> > > You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
> > > the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
> > > you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
> > > people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
> > > recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
> > > and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
> > > I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
> > > from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
> > > one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
> > > for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
> > > you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
> > > failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
> > > quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
> > > technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
> > > You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
> > > iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
> > > ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
> > > the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
> > > - and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
> > > where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
> > > thought. Not wise.
> > > Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
> > > Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
> > > talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
> > > lose those people forever.
> > > Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
> > > up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
> > > were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
> > > challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
> > > to beta. Who the hell knows.
> > > The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
> > > of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
> > > nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
> > > bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
> > > are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
> > > you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
> > > slip away.
> > > Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
> > > version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
> > > enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
> > > where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
> > > real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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> People relax..if it breaks from an Os update so what..we can switch to
> something else.
> it is just a to do application (or lists if you prefer).You can switch
> to whatever you want anytime.
> I can assure you that in 2 hours i can move my lists in omnifocus(ex
> user)
> or things or whatever the future will bring.
> I remember the days when i was a pc user and switched to a mac when
> apple bought
> Logic Audio from Emagic..that was a painful switch but still i made
> it.
> If you worry that much for every piece of software you have..that's a
> major problem.
> Software is just a tool to make our life or job easier but nothing is
> irreplaceable.
> But i have to agree watching this forum and @thehitlist twitter search
> everyday there is a new user that abandonds this train and the lack
> of
> communication does not help at all.
> But lets say that Andy was actively participating in this group
> what would change? nothing!! there would be more angry users talking
> about the lack of iphone app and if you read previous posts
> you can clearly see that this happened all the time and that's why
> Andy
> don't even visit this group anymore.
> Textmate developer closed the replies in his blog posts cause everyone
> kept asking
> about the status of textmate and in the end he stopped posting.
> People who need their lists on iphone or ipad they will find something
> else no matter what
> it is an important feature for them and hit list can fulfill that for
> now.
> It is simple facts.
> Communication would help the rest of us who don't need
> so much our lists on iphone or ipad or have found other ways..
> Personally i use ical synch or print to a paper..yes this is so before
> iphone era
> but that's fine with me.i think hit list for iphone is just an add-on
> or a feature
> and nothing else.
> Shame that many indie developers found the iphone as a great platform
> to program
> but as it seems it may kill Andy's business and his great
> application.
> On Apr 21, 1:51 am, "Muad'Dib" <dotmacsubscri...@mac.com> wrote:
> > Yeah ditto. I won't switch to anything else. THL is literally
> > perfect for what I'm doing and the way I work. But if I knew right
> > now that it was dead and potentially one day might just stop working
> > after an OS upgrade or something I'd probably jump ship pretty
> > quickly. I don't like surprises.
> > My original post is not to put Andy down. I admire his work
> > tremendously. I'm just watching this all happen and can't help but
> > think WTF?! It's just a damn shame to see an app of this calibre sink
> > simply because the developer is choosing to wear cement shoes.
> > Bummer.
> > On Apr 20, 12:59 pm, Joe Kueser <joe.kue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Well said.
> > > What is really really sad to me is that Andy had the opportunity to become a huge success story. Instead he's in line for the reward for the biggest blunder, standing right behind the poor dolt that lost his iPhone prototype.
> > > The only reason I'm still hanging in here is that The HIt List...well...it works like I do™
> > > Translation from a desktop app to iPhone app shouldn't be that big of a leap, unless The Hit List is written in something other than Objective C, C, or C++, in which case the delay very well could be Andy needing to learn something new. If this is the case, with The Hit List's initial success, Andy would have had seasoned iPhone developers lining up around the block for a chance to write The Hit List's iPhone app.
> > > Oh well. I've all but given up. I just can't bring myself to use anything else but The Hit List...because...it works like I do™ ;-)
> > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
> > > > From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
> > > > Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
> > > > devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
> > > > Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
> > > > feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
> > > > when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
> > > > full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
> > > > all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
> > > > OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
> > > > to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
> > > > drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
> > > > to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
> > > > times a day are you willing to let this happen?
> > > > You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
> > > > the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
> > > > you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
> > > > people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
> > > > recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
> > > > and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
> > > > I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
> > > > from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
> > > > one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
> > > > for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
> > > > you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
> > > > failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
> > > > quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
> > > > technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
> > > > You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
> > > > iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
> > > > ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
> > > > the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
> > > > - and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
> > > > where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
> > > > thought. Not wise.
> > > > Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
> > > > Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
> > > > talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
> > > > lose those people forever.
> > > > Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
> > > > up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
> > > > were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
> > > > challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
> > > > to beta. Who the hell knows.
> > > > The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
> > > > of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
> > > > nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
> > > > bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
> > > > are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
> > > > you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
> > > > slip away.
> > > > Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
> > > > version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
> > > > enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
> > > > where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
> > > > real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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I just love this app, it's so much better(for me at least) than the
others(like Omnifocus and Things)... but I'm seriously thinking in
switching to one of those if we don't hear anything about the future
of The Hit List... at least some kind of "We are still working on it"
would encourage me to stick with The Hit List for more time(and
seriously, that beta expiration update doesn't count...).
Come on Andy, don't leave us in the dark, at least say a "Hello, I'm
still alive and kicking" on the company blog or twitter.
On May 1, 10:05 am, Martin Cleaver <mrjclea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 7:52 pm, George <mpel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > People relax..if it breaks from an Os update so what..we can switch to
> > something else.
> > it is just a to do application (or lists if you prefer).You can switch
> > to whatever you want anytime.
> > I can assure you that in 2 hours i can move my lists in omnifocus(ex
> > user)
> > or things or whatever the future will bring.
> > I remember the days when i was a pc user and switched to a mac when
> > apple bought
> > Logic Audio from Emagic..that was a painful switch but still i made
> > it.
> > If you worry that much for every piece of software you have..that's a
> > major problem.
> > Software is just a tool to make our life or job easier but nothing is
> > irreplaceable.
> > But i have to agree watching this forum and @thehitlist twitter search
> > everyday there is a new user that abandonds this train and the lack
> > of
> > communication does not help at all.
> > But lets say that Andy was actively participating in this group
> > what would change? nothing!! there would be more angry users talking
> > about the lack of iphone app and if you read previous posts
> > you can clearly see that this happened all the time and that's why
> > Andy
> > don't even visit this group anymore.
> > Textmate developer closed the replies in his blog posts cause everyone
> > kept asking
> > about the status of textmate and in the end he stopped posting.
> > People who need their lists on iphone or ipad they will find something
> > else no matter what
> > it is an important feature for them and hit list can fulfill that for
> > now.
> > It is simple facts.
> > Communication would help the rest of us who don't need
> > so much our lists on iphone or ipad or have found other ways..
> > Personally i use ical synch or print to a paper..yes this is so before
> > iphone era
> > but that's fine with me.i think hit list for iphone is just an add-on
> > or a feature
> > and nothing else.
> > Shame that many indie developers found the iphone as a great platform
> > to program
> > but as it seems it may kill Andy's business and his great
> > application.
> > On Apr 21, 1:51 am, "Muad'Dib" <dotmacsubscri...@mac.com> wrote:
> > > Yeah ditto. I won't switch to anything else. THL is literally
> > > perfect for what I'm doing and the way I work. But if I knew right
> > > now that it was dead and potentially one day might just stop working
> > > after an OS upgrade or something I'd probably jump ship pretty
> > > quickly. I don't like surprises.
> > > My original post is not to put Andy down. I admire his work
> > > tremendously. I'm just watching this all happen and can't help but
> > > think WTF?! It's just a damn shame to see an app of this calibre sink
> > > simply because the developer is choosing to wear cement shoes.
> > > Bummer.
> > > On Apr 20, 12:59 pm, Joe Kueser <joe.kue...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Well said.
> > > > What is really really sad to me is that Andy had the opportunity to become a huge success story. Instead he's in line for the reward for the biggest blunder, standing right behind the poor dolt that lost his iPhone prototype.
> > > > The only reason I'm still hanging in here is that The HIt List...well...it works like I do™
> > > > Translation from a desktop app to iPhone app shouldn't be that big of a leap, unless The Hit List is written in something other than Objective C, C, or C++, in which case the delay very well could be Andy needing to learn something new. If this is the case, with The Hit List's initial success, Andy would have had seasoned iPhone developers lining up around the block for a chance to write The Hit List's iPhone app.
> > > > Oh well. I've all but given up. I just can't bring myself to use anything else but The Hit List...because...it works like I do™ ;-)
> > > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
> > > > > From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
> > > > > Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
> > > > > devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
> > > > > Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
> > > > > feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
> > > > > when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
> > > > > full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
> > > > > all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
> > > > > OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
> > > > > to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
> > > > > drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
> > > > > to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
> > > > > times a day are you willing to let this happen?
> > > > > You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
> > > > > the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
> > > > > you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
> > > > > people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
> > > > > recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
> > > > > and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
> > > > > I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
> > > > > from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
> > > > > one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
> > > > > for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
> > > > > you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
> > > > > failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
> > > > > quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
> > > > > technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
> > > > > You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
> > > > > iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
> > > > > ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
> > > > > the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
> > > > > - and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
> > > > > where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
> > > > > thought. Not wise.
> > > > > Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
> > > > > Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
> > > > > talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
> > > > > lose those people forever.
> > > > > Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
> > > > > up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
> > > > > were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
> > > > > challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
> > > > > to beta. Who the hell knows.
> > > > > The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
> > > > > of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
> > > > > nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
> > > > > bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
> > > > > are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
> > > > > you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
> > > > > slip away.
> > > > > Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
> > > > > version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
> > > > > enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
> > > > > where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
> > > > > real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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Andy has a terrific product, and a core of users that use it precisely
because it works, it does exactly what it needs to, and it does it in
such a way that makes it a pleasure to use.
I tried out all the gtd/todo apps when I got my macbook, and it was
because of the ease of use and the flowing keyboard-driven controls
that I intended to purchase both the v1.0 and the iphone app.
Andy, I sincerely hope that you are able to give more attention to
your users and fans. As Joe has already stated, you've got the chance
to create a real success story here! You've already given us evidence
you produce quality software with THL.
On Apr 21, 2:36 am, "Muad'Dib" <dotmacsubscri...@mac.com> wrote:
> From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
> Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
> devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
> Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
> feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
> when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
> full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
> all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
> OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
> to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
> drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
> to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
> times a day are you willing to let this happen?
> You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
> the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
> you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
> people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
> recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
> and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
> I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
> from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
> one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
> for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
> you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
> failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
> quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
> technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
> You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
> iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
> ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
> the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
> - and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
> where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
> thought. Not wise.
> Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
> Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
> talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
> lose those people forever.
> Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
> up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
> were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
> challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
> to beta. Who the hell knows.
> The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
> of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
> nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
> bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
> are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
> you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
> slip away.
> Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
> version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
> enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
> where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
> real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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Well said but sadly I've already given up. I didn't switch to Omni or
Things; both are way too bloated for what I need to manage my tasks.
The Hit List was a really great app. It's just too bad that the only
update since October was 4 days ago and it just extended the
expiration date of the app by two months... yippie...
I'll continue to check in from time to time but at this point without
any developer support or a fully functional 1.0 release that won't
expire, I need to move on.
On Apr 20, 9:36 am, "Muad'Dib" <dotmacsubscri...@mac.com> wrote:
> From one tiny one-man-business owner to another...
> Your silence is a massive mistake and is making both your most loyal
> devotees, as well as potential new customers, head for zee hills.
> Newsflash: You are linking directly to this list and the THL Twitter
> feed from the main THL website. Do you realize what people are seeing
> when they click on either of those pretty links?! A community chock-
> full of some of the most enthusiastic users you could ever ask for,
> all leaving, talking about leaving and/or calling THL "abandonware" -
> OR - a twitter feed that is bone dry. You must realize how that looks
> to people? Think of how THIS message alone looks to someone about to
> drop $50 or $70 on your product. Guess what? Someone was just about
> to spend $50 on THL but came here, saw this and has left. How many
> times a day are you willing to let this happen?
> You say you don't post because you've got nothing new to say. Well
> the silence is doing way more damage than the most disappointing thing
> you could post on twitter. If you really are hell-bent on letting
> people run away in droves and keeping to yourself then I'd highly
> recommend, for pure business sake, take down the links to this place
> and twitter from your website. It sends a really awful message.
> I understand the grind of creating something completely on your own
> from scratch. The pressure, the endless tweaking, etc. But you are
> one of the teeny tiny fraction of business owners who had the chance
> for genuine success, meaning a ton of people who absolutely loved what
> you did out of the gate. You made a really special product, but
> failed to see how lucky you were to developer a kickass user base so
> quickly. As someone who locks themselves away in a room working on
> technology alone, I envision that one of a few things is happening...
> You may have gone off the deep end and are now hammering away at the
> iPhone app regardless of the bad taste left in everyone's mouth,
> ignoring the fact that your massive chunk of early adopters (which is
> the most valuable thing anyone could ask for) is shrinking like crazy
> - and hoping to usurp Things in the app store. Good luck. This is
> where you start producing work based on obsession rather than rational
> thought. Not wise.
> Or maybe you see the damage you've caused and are working on THL
> Mobile in hopes that it will redeem you and win back users. Crazy
> talk. And only masochists come back after feeling burned. You will
> lose those people forever.
> Or maybe everyone is right and you've given up. Maybe you're giving
> up slowly. Maybe you aren't the magical wizard we all thought you
> were and the mobile app really is turning out to be a massive
> challenge. Maybe we don't all know that THL took you 5 years to bring
> to beta. Who the hell knows.
> The good news is that none of that matters. You can still keep a lot
> of us around. It's not too late. Just open your mouth. If you have
> nothing to say about THL then say "hi everyone. i love writing code.
> bye". Something. You're not Apple. Your silence is not golden. You
> are one dude who made an amazing app that people went CRAZY over. But
> you've let your priorities go wacky and are letting all those people
> slip away.
> Your #1 priority should not be to get THL Mobile out the door, nor
> version 1.0 shipping. It should be instilling trust in your very
> enthusiastic user base that they've made the right decision. That's
> where lifelong customers come from, and that's difference between a
> real business and a get-rich-quick scheme.
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