Re: [teluguwiki] Re: My Idea To Improve Telugu Computing (Hope it's a not worst thought)

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Kiran Kumar Chava

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Feb 21, 2006, 10:52:35 PM2/21/06
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వేషము మార్చెను
బాషను మార్చెను
బాసలు మరిచెను
దేశము మారెను
తెలుగోడు వాదు
:)
 
how to tell them that we are here and we are behind them?
How about some hyd telugu bloggers, telugu wiki, digital telugu lovers , meet in coming Sunday?
 
Incase you are in Hyderabad, and interested in participating in this informal/semiformal?/formal meet please reply, then we can decide on meeting place, agenda, timings, duration etc....

 
On 2/22/06, T Sirish Kumar <sirish...@gmail.com> wrote:
సినారె, తనికెళ్ళ భరణి, చుక్కా రామయ్య వంటి వారు తెలుగు భాషోద్యమ సమాఖ్య ను ఏర్పాటు చేసి, ప్రాచీనత అంశంపై ఉద్యమం చేపట్టారు. తెలుగు ప్రాచీనత దీని ముఖ్యాంశం. ఈ ఉద్యమం తరపున నిన్న (ఫిబ్ర 21) హైదరాబాదులో ఊరేగింపు, నిరాహార దీక్ష జరిగాయి. ఉద్యమ తక్షణ లక్ష్యం తెలుగు ప్రాచీనత అని తెలుస్తోంది. సి.ధర్మారావు అనేవారు తెలుగులోనే విద్యా బోధన ఉండాలనే విషయంపై ప్రత్యేకించి మాట్లాడారు. భాష అభ్యున్నతి, తెలుగు వెలుగు, వైభవ వికాసం, భాషా పరిశోధన మొదలైనవి విస్తృత లక్ష్యాలుగా తీసుకుని ఈ ఉద్యమాన్ని నిర్మిస్తే బాగుంటుందనుకుంటున్నాను. మనం ఈ ఉద్యమంలో ప్రత్యక్షంగా పాల్గొనగలిగితే బహు మంచిది. లేకున్నా, అందరం మన సంఘీభావాన్ని వారికి తెలియజేయాలి అని నా ఉద్దేశ్యం.

ఒక విశేషం..సాధారణంగా రాజకీయ నాయకులు ఇలాంటి కార్యక్రమాల్లో పెద్దగా ఆసక్తి చూపరు. అయితే ఉద్యమానికి బాగా మద్దతు ఉన్నా, లేక మద్దతు వస్తుందనే అంచనాలున్నా దీనిపై ఓ కన్నేసి ఉంచుతారు. నిన్న మంత్రి ఎమ్మెస్, బాబు, దత్తాత్రేయ మొదలైన వారు దీన్నో చూపు చూసి వెళ్ళారు. మరి ఇది దేనికి సూచికో..!?

అయితే మండలి బుద్ధప్రసాదు గారు దీనికి మినహాయింపులా కనబడుతున్నారు. మొదటి నుండీ ఈయన భాషా ఉద్యమంలో చురుగ్గా ఉన్నారు. ప్రస్తుత ఉద్యమంలో కూడా పాల్గొన్నారు.
-చదువరి.


On 2/21/06, Trivikram Gali <g.tri...@gmail.com > wrote:
రాజకీయ పార్టీల్ని నమ్మకండి. ( chaduvari.blogspot.com లో సంబంధిత పోస్ట్ చూడండి.) ఏం జరగాలన్నా మనం పూనుకోవలసిందే. మీడియాలో ప్రచారం, ఔత్సాహికులందర్నీ  ఒక గొడుగు కిందకు తేవడం మనం చేయవలసిన పనులు. ఇవి తప్పనిసరనే నా అభిప్రాయం కూడా. రైటప్స్ మనమే వ్రాయవచ్చు. ఇక రెండవ అంశం గురించి: ఎలా చేయాలో మీకే మైనా ఆలోచనలున్నాయా?

On 2/21/06, Prasad < prasad...@gmail.com > wrote:
ఈ మధ్య తెలుగు భాషా ఉద్యమం
బాగా ఊపందుకున్నట్టు
కనిపిస్తుంది, కొన్ని political
party's   కూడా ఈ విషయాన్ని serious  గ
తీసుకున్నట్టు
కనిపిస్తుంది అయితే ఇది
ఎంత వరకు  serious గ చేసే ఉద్యమమో
తెలీదు కాని, ప్రజల
ద్రుష్టి ని బాగ
ఆకర్స్చిందని నా అభిప్రాయం
, కాబట్టి ఈ advatage నీ మనం
వాడుకొని Cyber Telugu
ప్రాముఖ్యతని పెంచగలిగితే
చాలు. మన చెయ్యఒందుకొని
నదిపించడానికి, మనతొ
కలవదానికి వెయ్యి చేతులు
కలుస్తాయి.
                    మొదటగా Internet lo Telugu
ప్రస్తుత staus(I mean information about the research
and working groups like This) గురించి ఒక మంచి
article EENADU (EE EENADU, EE TARAM) లేక Andhra Jyoti
లాంటి news dailes  లొ , ఇంకా ఇదే
విషయం పై ఒక program  ని ETV2 , TV9
ప్రసరం చెయ్యడం వల్ల కొంత
సుప్పొర్త్ రావొచ్చు .
                                         Secondly మనకు
ఇన్ని telugu user groups  వున్న అన్ని
fragmented గా వున్నయి
వీటాన్నిటిని Consolidate చెసి  Free




--
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naa sOdi

krishh

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Feb 22, 2006, 5:51:05 AM2/22/06
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A bit of support from media would help us a lot,
any ways it was a good Idea making a get together
we can decide about the plans only if we have formal interaction.
first of all if we can form a group as I said consolidated group some
thing like free software foundation,and then
we can have a press meet, and let the world know about tht,
A press meet will be a very effective source I hope, and also regular
articles about CYBER TELUGU in news papers will help a lot, and Even
press meet wouldn't cost any thing I guess.
All we need to create is a buzz n the town

and few organisations like Linux User Group Hyd, Free Software
foundaton Hyd Chapter, and even few corporates ,and even lingustic and
computer departments in Univeristes and collg may also get aware of it
,so that they may help in some way or other.

Trivikram Gali

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I hope this enthusiasm would not die down.
Our priorities sholud be:
 
1. To create awareness among all Telugu netizens and also Telugu citizens about the effective use of Telugu font in the internet.
 2. To voice our concerns about the Neglect of Telugu in schools.(To prepare and propogate a strong response to the widely prevalent stupid question: Why should we learn/teach Telugu?)
 3. To Strongly bring into focus the importance of mother tongue in the cultural milieu  and also as the medium of primary education, at least. 
 4. To persuade "Telugu" electronic media to "use" Telugu properly.
 5. To convince Telugu media (print as well as electronic) about the seriousness of the matter so that they can focus on it consistently.
....
 
We should be able to proclaim our first progress report by Ugaadhi.
 
Am I too ambitious?
 
Regarding the the meeting, not only in Hyd., wherever we are, we can meet together and discuss in that city, though in small numbers in the beginning. I am in Hyd, but this weekend I have an important personal work which can not be delegated or deferred. So I can only attend the subsequent meetings.
 
"ఆంగ్ల భాషను శాసిస్తా-ఆంధ్ర భాషను ఆదరిస్తా"
 
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T Sirish Kumar

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Feb 22, 2006, 9:55:36 PM2/22/06
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మన సమావేశం ఒక ఘటన కావాలి. పెద్దలు కొందరు వస్తే బాగుంటుంది. తనికెళ్ళ భరణి, చుక్కా రామయ్య వంటివారు. ముందస్తు ప్రయత్నాలు కొన్ని జరగాలని నా ఉద్దేశ్యం.
  1. మన వేదికకు ఒక పేరు పెట్టుకోవాలి.
  2. లక్ష్యాలు స్పష్టంగా నిర్దేశించుకోవాలి మనందరికీ లక్ష్యం విషయంలో స్పష్టత ఉండాలి..
  3. సమావేశానికి మీడియా కూడా వచ్చేలా చెయ్యాలి. ఇది తప్పనిసరి. మనకు జర్నలిస్టు స్నేహితులెవరన్నా ఉంటే మంచిది, పనులు సులువవుతాయి. రచ్చబండలో నెల్లుట్ల వేణుగోపాల్ సభ్యులనుకుంటాను. మనమాయన సాయం తీసుకోవచ్చండి, కిరణ్. జర్నలిస్టులు రావడమనేది ప్రధానం. మన తక్షణ లక్ష్యం - నెట్ పౌరులైనంత మాత్రాన వారికి ఇంగ్లీషంటే మోజు, తెలుగసలే పడదు అనే అభిప్రాయం పోయి, వీరికి తెలుగంటే ఇంత ఆపేక్షా అనిపించాలి. సభ్యులెంత ఎక్కువ మంది ఉంటే అంత మంచిది.
  4. అలాగే, ముందుగా మాధ్యమాలకు ఈ మెయిళ్ళు పంపాలి. తెలుగుకు జరుగుతున్న అన్యాయం పట్ల మన నిరసన చూపుదాం. తెలుగు భాష వాడుకపై మనకున్న ప్రేమ, నిబద్ధతను తెలియజేద్దాం. ఒక విషయంపై వేల ఈ మెయిళ్ళు వచ్చినపుడు వారు పట్టించుకోకుండా ఉండలేరు. అదే ఈ మెయిల్లో మేము ఫలానా రోజున హైదరాబాదులో కలుస్తున్నాం, మీరూ రండి అని ఆహ్వానం పంపుదాం. తప్పకుండా వస్తారు. ఓ పదివేల మెయిళ్ళైనా పంపగలగాలి.
  5. వచ్చే ఆదివారానికి ఈ పనులు చెయ్యలేమేమో! ఒక వారం పాటు సమావేశాన్ని వాయిదా వేసి ఈలోగా ఈ పనులు చేసుకోవాలి. ఓ వెబ్‌పేజీని తయారుచేసి, సమావేశానికి వచ్చేవారిని అక్కడ రాయమనాలి. దాని గురించి వ్సితృతంగా ప్రచారం చెయ్యాలి. పదివేల మంది నుండి ఈ మెయిళ్ళు వెళ్ళడం కష్టం కాదనుకుంటాను.
  6. సమావేశంలో వివిధ బ్లాగుల్లో తెలుగువారు వ్యక్తపరుస్తున్న అభిప్రాయాలను అతిథులకు పంచుదాం. తెలుగు పట్ల మన చిత్తశుద్ధిని తెలియజేద్దాం.
ఈ విషయంపై చర్చకు నేను ఈ రోజు 12:00, 5:00 (IST) మధ్య జీ మెయిల్లో సిద్ధంగా ఉంటాను.
-చదువరి

subrahmanyam P

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Feb 22, 2006, 11:56:09 PM2/22/06
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I am observing this kind of idea from few of the bloggers about uniting the all blogs...  If you recall. Aasagaam which has started first telugu Podcsting blog  www.voiceofambition.com is one.  The promoter just 2 months back tried to send around 2000 emails to all these blogers and I understand the response is very negative.

 

If you people not taking me as another negative person, I think that every blog would like to take lead part in getting the right space or lead blog is the reason behind it why this unity cause has failed.  And you take any tamil or English or Taiwan or other country blogs there is no single source or united blogers of India like thing. 

 

Matter fact is that the idea of blog is to voice or air the individual opinion of the blogger without any restrictions or conditions or terms or moderator or main person.

 

Actually the sister blog of voice of ambition in telugu they call it Aasagalam and in English Voice of Ambition - promoted by one Mr Joy from Srikakulam - he started a forum with an idea of uniting the telugu groups , rather Indian groups may be, but the moderators are some thing like ....  ( I don't want to express it).  You need to be more accommodative, you need to be innovative, you need to be creative, and you need to specifically cater to the varied interests of the varied people like we Telugu people.  Telugu people has got one specialty... Their adoptability is their unique nature.  Unlike Tamil or Malayalees, they don't act as if their tradition is in danger or as if their identity is about to be erased so they talk in their language.  They don't feel that others feel uncomfortable or it is unparliamentarily to talk in unknown language when there were foreign people are around.  But we, we are considerate, concerned about others first and think about us later... May be that is the reason we are being taken granted for some time, at some situations.

 

I just would like to recall a situation – in 1972 when I went first time to Madras, I was staying in a lodge at Triplicane, while I was working at an office near Devi talkies.   I don't know much Tamil at that time.  And one evening a large person, well large literally came to my room for his room mate and asked him about me. Room mate told him that I was from Andhra, and suddenly he laughed at me and said "Golti" ( you people might have encountered this situation in Madras.  Gotli means downtrodden or scavengers …  Because most of the scavengers at Chennai are from Nellore, they insult us like this. This I came to know even before I go to Madras.  That fellow without even thinking that I was yet to be introduced, suddenly asked me with a tongue in cheek.  Hello what is meant by Golti? Suddenly I thought about it and said that it is like thanks, and we should say "no mention" but when say that, you people are thinking that we are requesting to not to call us like this.   He said "Thanks?" by twisting his face.  He is strong, over built and I am very lean and short and I don't' want to have any physical controversy with him.   I said yes, but if I tell you the background you will feel insulted, so please don't ask me.  Naturally he started insisting me and I asked whether he heard about Tanjavur Saraswathi Grandhalayam.   Yes he said.  Then please go and read Tamil dictionary about Golti.    He asked me whether I read it.  I said that every one in AP is aware of it.    He requested me to narrate the information and I got assurance from him that he will not harm me. He agreed.   Then I said that when the East India people came here entire population of Tamilnadu were not aware of cleaning their ass once they finish the lavatory.   And there was so much smell and over and above they were not wearing any trousers but only Lungis.  Then one Englishman went to Nellore and requested 50 andhra people to come to Madras and teach them about how to clean their ass after doing the thing and also teach them to clean their lavatory.  Once it was done, the 50 people were about to go back and all the learned Tamilians requested the Englishman to keep them here in Madras and give them hereditary right to get the jobs in corporation.  And it was agreed and from that day whenever they see an Andhra, they remember their old days and express that Oh! You people brought us the Golden days!"   By some time, it was just Golden Days and then just Gold, and it has been turned to Golti…  So we have to say "no mention"   He was unable to speak a word and asked me my name and said that from day, if I want any help, he can count on me.  After a week his friend came when he was in my room. That fellow suddenly enquired about me, he said casually that I am an Andhra, and that friend was about to say the word, and suddenly this big man jumped on him and closed his mouth and dragged him out to the balcony and said asked him that he should never utter that word, and if he do, he will tell a story, and he don't want to listen that story in his life once again and neither he will not repeat that story to him.

 

This is how these people create inferiority complex in us.  I was with them for 30 years!   I know they are like dogs. They will start barking, if you run, they will be after you, better stand erect, search for a small piece of wooden stick and they will start licking your feet and make rounds with new sounds.

 

That is it. 

 

Any how I suggest that, members ship is increased to 70 people within a 50 days for VOA, and added attraction is podstat and it is one of the latest craze. 

 

I suggested to Mr Joy to target the Indian call centers where the young telugu people at Bangalore, Hyderabad or in Noida would be happy to listen some new jokes, discussions and satires etc.

 

What I suggest at the end is - be creative in selecting the subject, be innovative - just talking about Hollywood or bollywood or corruption  or telugu jaati is like deceiving / cheating ( in mind terms) us.  Just by talking through PC  about us, thinking that we have done service to Talugu Prajalu is nonsense.  But then select, make it unique  and make it such a thing that within 6 months even the other languages should ask for translation of our site... Work with a strategy of 6 months to build it... ask for clear opinion and you people should clear opinion whether you like it or not ( instead of leaving it to old people like me!)

 

And I feel joining with Podcasting is much encouraging.   The area is free from encroachment, it is not banjara hills or jubilee hills, it is right time you young people come with a strategy... instead ogf Kalla Gajja Kankalamma  etc.,   OK I hear you, but then, bring some thing seasonal.....

 

Comments.... of any type is welcome.  I am ready to give innovative concepts if you people are ready

 

I will ask you one question…  The members are most of them from India and few of them from US or some other countries.  Can we bring some kind of help desk for the young girls who are becoming victims in the hands of green, red blue or yellow card holders or no card holders of US, They get themselves advertised in Marriage broker's websites and our people go for auction like Jubilee land and pay lakhs and send the girls without getting proper information.   In some cases the result is very very pathetic even for highly educated women and highly placed parents.  I started blog today…   it is yet to be completed within a day or two…  www.bridebeaware.blogspot.com   where I would like to bring the details of Divorce laws of all 50 US states and with necessary daily updating.

 

 

 

 

Subrahmanyam

 

Visit my site: www.mahalaya.net  One American sent me a mail telling me that if you don't know what is web site design I will teach you freely.  I replied, If you don't know what is innovation, please come and work for a BPO in Hyderabad.  He removed me from that group.  That much!!!

Kiran Kumar Chava

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Cool,
 
Very big mail.
 
One thing I don't like centralized authority. I don't find a reason for it, when everybody can start a blog.
 
Me things : -----
Blog for Fun. Enjoy blogging.
 
Just help people who want to start blogging in Telugu.

----
 

vee tel

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Hi friends

This is great! Good to see the response...and the idea to have a first get together in Hyderabad is also good. Kiran, Trivikram, Sirish, Prasad and other members have come up with really good ideas.
Though I am not in Hyd, I do hope many Telugu lovers, computing enthusiasts really get together, and this would be the beginning of the Telugu Computing Movement...thats what I would refer it as..till we find a beautiful Telugu name. And with its beginning in Hyderabad, it will spread to other cities and countries.
Yes, spread the word around...and lets try to get it to all our contacts esp. those in media and political sphere.

I will soon give another reply mail to this thread, which will be sent to many Telugu groups on the internet. Will list some ideas I have, and the action plan we can follow.

regards
Kiran
Proud to be Telugu
పంచదారకనౠన పనసతొనలకనౠన ఈ తెలౠగౠమినౠన


T Sirish Kumar <sirish...@gmail.com> wrote:
మన సమావేశం ఒక ఘటన కావాలి. పెదౠదలౠకొందరౠవసౠతే బాగౠంటౠంది. తనికెళౠళ భరణి, చౠకౠకా రామయౠయ వంటివారౠ. మౠందసౠతౠపౠరయతౠనాలౠకొనౠని జరగాలని నా ఉదౠదేశౠయం.
  1. మన వేదికకౠఒక పేరౠపెటౠటౠకోవాలి.
  2. లకౠషౠయాలౠసౠపషౠటంగా నిరౠదేశించౠకోవాలి మనందరికీ లకౠషౠయం విషయంలో సౠపషౠటత ఉండాలి..
  3. సమావేశానికి మీడియా కూడా వచౠచేలా చెయౠయాలి. ఇది తపౠపనిసరి. మనకౠజరౠనలిసౠటౠసౠనేహితౠలెవరనౠనా ఉంటే మంచిది, పనౠలౠసౠలౠవవౠతాయి. రచౠచబండలో నెలౠలౠటౠల వేణౠగోపాలౠసభౠయౠలనౠకౠంటానౠ. మనమాయన సాయం తీసౠకోవచౠచండి, కిరణౠ. జరౠనలిసౠటౠలౠరావడమనేది పౠరధానం. మన తకౠషణ లకౠషౠయం - నెటౠపౌరౠలైనంత మాతౠరాన వారికి ఇంగౠలీషంటే మోజౠ, తెలౠగసలే పడదౠఅనే అభిపౠరాయం పోయి, వీరికి తెలౠగంటే ఇంత ఆపేకౠషా అనిపించాలి. సభౠయౠలెంత ఎకౠకౠవ మంది ఉంటే అంత మంచిది.
  4. అలాగే, మౠందౠగా మాధౠయమాలకౠఈ మెయిళౠళౠపంపాలి. తెలౠగౠకౠజరౠగౠతౠనౠన అనౠయాయం పటౠల మన నిరసన చూపౠదాం. తెలౠగౠభాష వాడౠకపై మనకౠనౠన పౠరేమ, నిబదౠధతనౠతెలియజేదౠదాం. ఒక విషయంపై వేల ఈ మెయిళౠళౠవచౠచినపౠడౠవారౠపటౠటించౠకోకౠండా ఉండలేరౠ. అదే ఈ మెయిలౠలో మేమౠఫలానా రోజౠన హైదరాబాదౠలో కలౠసౠతౠనౠనాం, మీరూ రండి అని ఆహౠవానం పంపౠదాం. తపౠపకౠండా వసౠతారౠ. ఓ పదివేల మెయిళౠళైనా పంపగలగాలి.
  5. వచౠచే ఆదివారానికి ఈ పనౠలౠచెయౠయలేమేమో! ఒక వారం పాటౠసమావేశానౠని వాయిదా వేసి ఈలోగా ఈ పనౠలౠచేసౠకోవాలి. ఓ వెబౠ‌పేజీని తయారౠచేసి, సమావేశానికి వచౠచేవారిని అకౠకడ రాయమనాలి. దాని గౠరించి వౠసితృతంగా పౠరచారం చెయౠయాలి. పదివేల మంది నౠండి ఈ మెయిళౠళౠవెళౠళడం కషౠటం కాదనౠకౠంటానౠ.
  6. సమావేశంలో వివిధ బౠలాగౠలౠలో తెలౠగౠవారౠవౠయకౠతపరౠసౠతౠనౠన అభిపౠరాయాలనౠఅతిథౠలకౠపంచౠదాం. తెలౠగౠపటౠల మన చితౠతశౠదౠధిని తెలియజేదౠదాం.
ఈ విషయంపై చరౠచకౠనేనౠఈ రోజౠ12:00, 5:00 (IST) మధౠయ జీ మెయిలౠలో సిదౠధంగా ఉంటానౠ.
-చదౠవరి
On 2/23/06, Trivikram Gali <g.tri...@gmail.com> wrote:
I hope this enthusiasm would not die down.
Our priorities sholud be:
 
1. To create awareness among all Telugu netizens and also Telugu citizens about the effective use of Telugu font in the internet.
 2. To voice our concerns about the Neglect of Telugu in schools.(To prepare and propogate a strong response to the widely prevalent stupid question: Why should we learn/teach Telugu?)
 3. To Strongly bring into focus the importance of mother tongue in the cultural milieu  and also as the medium of primary education, at least. 
 4. To persuade "Telugu" electronic media to "use" Telugu properly.
 5. To convince Telugu media (print as well as electronic) about the seriousness of the matter so that they can focus on it consistently.
....
 
We should be able to proclaim our first progress report by Ugaadhi.
 
Am I too ambitious?
 
Regarding the the meeting, not only in Hyd., wherever we are, we can meet together and discuss in that city, though in small numbers in the beginning. I am in Hyd, but this weekend I have an important personal work which can not be delegated or deferred. So I can only attend the subsequent meetings.
 
"ఆంగౠల భాషనౠశాసిసౠతా-ఆంధౠర భాషనౠఆదరిసౠతా"
 
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krishh

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Feb 23, 2006, 10:55:34 AM2/23/06
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SOOO అందరికి ఉత్సాహం
వుందన్నమాట కాని మనకు
ముందుగా మీడియా support కావాలి

Sirish గారనట్టు మనం ముందుగా
అన్ని తెలుగు Groups కు mails
పంపాలి, అందుకు ముందుగా ఒక
మంచి message సిద్ధం చెయ్యాలి

Orkut లాంటి సంఘాలలొ కూడా చాలా
తెలుగు communties వున్నాయి,
వారికి కూడా చెప్పాలి.

ఏన్ని Mails చేసామనేది కాదు,
ఎంత మందికి ఈ అలోచన
చేర్చామన్నది ముఖ్యం,
(నేనెఇతే మా college లొ చాలా
మందికి చెప్పాను :-))

సొ ముందుగా Mail ని సిద్దం
చెయ్యాలి, any suggestions how to start the first
sentence??

And I agree with Kiran గారు on Mr Subhramanyam's mail
centralized authority బాగుండదు, కానీ మనం
ఒక Major consolidated Group's web page create చేసిన
తరవాత ప్రతి బ్లాగ్ ఒక
లింక్ దానికి
పెడ్తే మంచిది.

subrahmanyam P

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I am not asking for centralised authority....  I said centralised authority is a non-starter and will not work well 
 
One thing I will ask YOu people to think "outside the box"  When we do have our own unique media where the time constraint is not there, prime time is not there, personality hicups are not there, level playing is THERE, we need not beg the reporters and we need not worry about our face and its time taken to show in news etc., 
 
When you say you are unique, be unique in approach as well...  ( I don't want to write volumes. I will stop it here)
 
here are few starting sentences...
 
1.    "Come, let us unite the Telugu blogs"  with this slogan we would like to invite you.....
 
2.   "Blog" anagane  telisinavaaru konchme, andhulo, Telugu lo, blog anagaane?  
      Exactly, that is what we woud like to discuss now....
 
3.  Namaskaaram.  here is one interesting information.   People belongs to Andhra Pradesh who are scattered around the world, residing in various locations and cities....  without any difference in age or gender or cast or status....  virtually met and discussed just 2 days back about a proposal of motivating the Telugu people in organizing a united force.  In fact this meeting is an onging process...  we through the web Blogs - on 24/7 basis.  
 
That is it... we can change and edit them...
 
Most important Prasad garu....  let us not get carried away by the media.  Let the media come to us.  It is possible.  Only consistency and innovation is required.
 
Ok

krishh

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Feb 23, 2006, 2:07:28 PM2/23/06
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సుబ్రహ్మణ్యం గారికి
నమస్కారం,
మిమ్మల్ని
బాధపెట్టినందుకు
క్షమించండి, మీ Website చూసాను
మీ profile చదివాను, మీరు చాలా
experinced అని వాటి ద్వారా
తెలుసుకున్నను,
నా వయసు మీ Experice లొ సగం
వుండదు(Just 19 years), కాబట్టి
కుర్రాడు అని
క్షమించెయ్యండి, మరో విషయం
మీరు నన్ను ఓరేయ్ ప్రసాద్
అన్నా నేనెమి ఫీల్ అవ్వను, so
గారు అనడం ఆపేYYఅండి.

కాని sir మీ ఆలొచనలు ఛాల Broad
prospective లొ వున్నయని నా
ఆభిప్రాయం I can understand ur considerations, but
sir , If we had to choose ur way we gotta wait for a very long time,and
even as u already said the respose may go negative, every suggestion
has got some pros and cons, Iam just highligting ur suggetions cons
b'oz I don wanna wait, again Iam not sayin this to hurt You Sir, As you
know Young Blood Can't wait ,but experince can,ny ways comin to the
point U quoted this"What I suggest at the end is - be creative in


selecting the subject, be
innovative - just talking about Hollywood or bollywood or corruption or

telugu jaati is like deceiving / cheating ( in mind terms) us. Just by
talking through PC about us, thinking that we have done service to
Talugu
Prajalu is nonsense.

" To be frank and to be true and to be honest Iam not at all
fiddling/deciveing or cheating myself by making a move to improve
telugu computing Iam very much clear at my mind so there's no fiddling
నేను "Wikipedia" చూసిన ప్రతిసారి
తెలుగు pages ఎన్ని వున్నయో
చూస్తాను, తమిల్ pages ఎన్ని
వున్నయొ చూస్తాను , మనం ఇంకా
వాల్లని చెరాలంటే ఎంత Info
రాయాలొ చూస్తను, అది
తలచుకొని bhhadha paDataanu , మీ విషయం
లొ ఇదంతా Nonsense Nuisance కావొచ్చు,
కాని నాకు ఇదే One of the prime target ,
Innovative ఆంటె మీ విషెయ్మ్ లొ
Podcasting కావొచ్చు, కాని
దానికన్నా , Media ద్వారా అదే
మీరన్న accomadative method ద్వారా
ఎక్కువ మందిని రెఅచ్
కావొచ్చు,అదే నాకు
కావల్సింది,నాకు ఆదే పేద్ద
innovation.
And Sir, I don see any necessity of begging any reporters, all we need
to do is to Ripple the media, we wanna tell them that we are here
working on Our Language in the Virtual World , to make it sound equal
among all its counter parts, And Yes This has a time constraint, why
should there'nt be a time constraint?,there should be one, we gotta do
that as soon as possible Podcasting and what so ever your so called
Our Media doesn't reach every one , tht who gotta be heard , But the
Electronic Media can reach, the print media can reach them Sir , Iam
sayin all this to just convince You,but not to deride You

And Once again in reverence to ur experience Iam Sorry !!!!!

-------------
ప్రసాద్

subrahmanyam P

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Dear it happens and in the same way myself and Mr Joy who is at US exhanged emails for four days and at the end I have ask him to change the design of the aasagalam so I gave that design.  Actually I asked him to do it like Yahoo E Mail page and he made it like that.  When he said that there were  no takers then I told him to change the top color into dark one ( red) about the "1st telugu podcasting site"  Still in the 1st week of Jan he asked me why there was no traffic.  I said, sitting in Srikakulam for 19 years you never thought about Corruption and Democracy and after going the US you want to change the India? Too much. Better you resing and come back to India and then start saving the democracy and everyone in India just sit in their sofa set and watch TV 9 and ETv and laugh and sleep and morning they will forget about you. 
 
What is it YOU want to achieve...  Let us not speak about values... Bullshit...
Where you would like to be in the same month in the year 2010 with your blog or web site?
 
Ask yourself.  You may finis your studies, you may get a job, may gop to US, may get married and production will start ...  Just think not today... think about 2010 and plan NOW.
 
Instead of media, you will get one day publicity...  For that, you need to take Ravindra Bharati or ISB auditorium like thing call for all Bloggers... start as Indian Blogers and then we can sideline our Telugu Blogers....   It requires money... we can call CBN - our ex CM who will be happy to come will add colour to this...but then the money required is more...  Either you have to ask sponser ship from Infosys, deloitte, Dell or oracle or wipro... do we have any contacts...
 
I suggest if you have your personal email... if you have no problem give it me and I will give you a road map...  I can do everything behind the curtains and I will not come before the public. 
 
Or if you are in Hyderabad you can contact me on 5552 7344 I am staying at Shivam Road.
 
Let us not " pulini choose nakka vaata pettukunntlu kaadu"  Don't mimic them, have innovation and see that they will follow us....   Read below and give your comments.
 
1.  How many telugu blogs are there...  some time back Sri Chava sent us very big list... take a print out or copy to MS word.
2. How many of them from India, how many of them from Hyderabad,
3. Can we find some of them from big corporates like - you see...
4. How many email address you have got ... of Telugu friends - age between 10 to 75  no problem
5. How many more we can get from all these telugu bloggers...
 
If we size up not less than 1000, and then 50% discount, so 500 minimum will respond and 300 people maximum can attend.
 
So this bround work has to be done ...planning has to be done.. and if you come to the charminar chowrsts and ask all the people and everyone will give one suggestion ( like me) and you will get mad and go to a bar and relax and forget.
 
Aarambha Soorathvam  - is one we have to tear off. 
 
Ok
 
Tell me

carani narayanarao

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Feb 24, 2006, 12:43:26 AM2/24/06
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I am not tech/net savvy to give suggestions in  Improving the Telugu Computing. Any event requires, spectators to watch and cheer up the main players.So I am here in the gallery to clap and cheer you all up.
 
I stay in Chennai and I want my small grandchildren too to learn what I learnt as a child- the Telugu rhymes (including kalla gajja kankallamma). Thanks to this google group which has helped me in obtaining the CDs containing the Telugu rhymes concerned.
 
Migration of Telugus into Tamilnadu couldbe from the time the Telugu Nayaka kings were ruling Madurai and Tiruchirapalli(during 16th century). Britishers came later. As far as the word "గొలిటె" (GOLITE ) is concerned, it is the reverse of 'టెలుగొ'"TELUGO"; that is what the tamilians call us. In turn we call them ARAVAGOLA. and in turn the the Northies call all the Sothies MADRASEE. Let us forgive and forget. Let there not be any let up in the work started by the group. I wish you all Godspeed in your endeavour.
 
Then, I too want to say as Chava Kiran says
"Me too thinks : -----
(Let us) Blog for Fun. Enjoy blogging. "


Kiran Kumar Chava <chava...@gmail.com> wrote:
Cool,
 
Very big mail.
 
One thing I don't like centralized authority. I don't find a reason for it, when everybody can start a blog.
 
Me things : -----
Blog for Fun. Enjoy blogging.
 
Just help people who want to start blogging in Telugu.

----
 
On 2/23/06, subrahmanyam P <pidap...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am observing this kind of idea from few of the bloggers about uniting the all blogs...  If you recall. Aasagaam which has started first telugu Podcsting blog  www.voiceofambition.com is one.  The promoter just 2 months back tried to send around 2000 emails to all these blogers and I understand the response is very negative.
 
If you people not taking me as another negative person, I think that every blog would like to take lead part in getting the right space or lead blog is the reason behind it why this unity cause has failed.  And you take any tamil or English or Taiwan or other country blogs there is no single source or united blogers of India like thing. 
 
Matter fact is that the idea of blog is to voice or air the individual opinion of the blogger without any restrictions or conditions or terms or moderator or main person.
 
Actually the sister blog of voice of ambition in telugu they call it Aasagalam and in English Voice of Ambition - promoted by one Mr Joy from Srikakulam - he started a forum with an idea of uniting the telugu groups , rather Indian groups may be, but the moderators are some thing like ....  ( I don't want to express it).  You need to be more accommodative, you need to be innovative, you need to be creative, and you need to specifically cater to the varied interests of the varied people like we Telugu people.  Telugu people has got one specialty... Their adoptability is their unique nature.  Unlike Tamil or Malayalees, they don't act as if their tradition is in danger or as if their identity is about to be erased so they talk in their language.  They don't feel that others feel uncomfortable or it is unparliamentarily to talk in unknown language when there were foreign people are around.  But we, we are considerate, concerned about others first and think about us later... May be that is the reason we are being taken granted for some time, at some situations.
 
I just would like to recall a situation – in 1972 when I went first time to Madras, I was staying in a lodge at Triplicane, while I was working at an office near Devi talkies.   I don't know much Tamil at that time.  And one evening a large person, well large literally came to my room for his room mate and asked him about me. Room mate told him that I was from Andhra, and suddenly he laughed at me and said "Golti" ( you people might have encountered this situation in Madras.   Gotli means downtrodden or scavengers …  Because most of the scavengers at Chennai are from Nellore, they insult us like this. This I came to know even before I go to Madras.  That fellow without even thinking that I was yet to be introduced, suddenly asked me with a tongue in cheek.   Hello what is meant by Golti? Suddenly I thought about it and said that it is like thanks, and we should say "no mention" but when say that, you people are thinking that we are requesting to not to call us like this.   He said "Thanks?" by twisting his face.  He is strong, over built and I am very lean and short and I don't' want to have any physical controversy with him.   I said yes, but if I tell you the background you will feel insulted, so please don't ask me.   Naturally he started insisting me and I asked whether he heard about Tanjavur Saraswathi Grandhalayam.   Yes he said.  Then please go and read Tamil dictionary about Golti.    He asked me whether I read it.  I said that every one in AP is aware of it.    He requested me to narrate the information and I got assurance from him that he will not harm me. He agreed.   Then I said that when the East India people came here entire population of Tamilnadu were not aware of cleaning their ass once they finish the lavatory.   And there was so much smell and over and above they were not wearing any trousers but only Lungis.   Then one Englishman went to Nellore and requested 50 andhra people to come to Madras and teach them about how to clean their ass after doing the thing and also teach them to clean their lavatory.  Once it was done, the 50 people were about to go back and all the learned Tamilians requested the Englishman to keep them here in Madras and give them hereditary right to get the jobs in corporation.  And it was agreed and from that day whenever they see an Andhra, they remember their old days and express that Oh! You people brought us the Golden days!"   By some time, it was just Golden Days and then just Gold, and it has been turned to Golti…  So we have to say "no mention"   He was unable to speak a word and asked me my name and said that from day, if I want any help, he can count on me.   After a week his friend came when he was in my room. That fellow suddenly enquired about me, he said casually that I am an Andhra, and that friend was about to say the word, and suddenly this big man jumped on him and closed his mouth and dragged him out to the balcony and said asked him that he should never utter that word, and if he do, he will tell a story, and he don't want to listen that story in his life once again and neither he will not repeat that story to him.
 
This is how these people create inferiority complex in us.  I was with them for 30 years!   I know they are like dogs. They will start barking, if you run, they will be after you, better stand erect, search for a small piece of wooden stick and they will start licking your feet and make rounds with new sounds.
 
That is it. 
 
Any how I suggest that, members ship is increased to 70 people within a 50 days for VOA, and added attraction is podstat and it is one of the latest craze. 
 
I suggested to Mr Joy to target the Indian call centers where the young telugu people at Bangalore, Hyderabad or in Noida would be happy to listen some new jokes, discussions and satires etc.
 
What I suggest at the end is - be creative in selecting the subject, be innovative - just talking about Hollywood or bollywood or corruption  or telugu jaati is like deceiving / cheating ( in mind terms) us.  Just by talking through PC  about us, thinking that we have done service to Talugu Prajalu is nonsense.  But then select, make it unique  and make it such a thing that within 6 months even the other languages should ask for translation of our site... Work with a strategy of 6 months to build it... ask for clear opinion and you people should clear opinion whether you like it or not ( instead of leaving it to old people like me!)
 
And I feel joining with Podcasting is much encouraging.   The area is free from encroachment, it is not banjara hills or jubilee hills, it is right time you young people come with a strategy... instead ogf Kalla Gajja Kankalamma  etc.,   OK I hear you, but then, bring some thing seasonal.....
 
Comments.... of any type is welcome.  I am ready to give innovative concepts if you people are ready
 
I will ask you one question…  The members are most of them from India and few of them from US or some other countries.   Can we bring some kind of help desk for the young girls who are becoming victims in the hands of green, red blue or yellow card holders or no card holders of US, They get themselves advertised in Marriage broker's websites and our people go for auction like Jubilee land and pay lakhs and send the girls without getting proper information.   In some cases the result is very very pathetic even for highly educated women and highly placed parents.  I started blog today…   it is yet to be completed within a day or two…   www.bridebeaware.blogspot.com   where I would like to bring the details of Divorce laws of all 50 US states and with necessary daily updating.
 
 
 
 
Subrahmanyam
 
Visit my site: www.mahalaya.net  One American sent me a mail telling me that if you don't know what is web site design I will teach you freely.  I replied, If you don't know what is innovation, please come and work for a BPO in Hyderabad.  He removed me from that group.  That much!!!
On 2/23/06, T Sirish Kumar <sirish...@gmail.com > wrote:
మన సమావేశం ఒక ఘటన కావాలి. పెదౠదలౠకొందరౠవసౠతే బాగౠంటౠంది. తనికెళౠళ భరణి, చౠకౠకా రామయౠయ వంటివారౠ. మౠందసౠతౠపౠరయతౠనాలౠకొనౠని జరగాలని నా ఉదౠదేశౠయం.
  1. మన వేదికకౠఒక పేరౠపెటౠటౠకోవాలి.
  2. లకౠషౠయాలౠసౠపషౠటంగా నిరౠదేశించౠకోవాలి మనందరికీ లకౠషౠయం విషయంలో సౠపషౠటత ఉండాలి..
  3. సమావేశానికి మీడియా కూడా వచౠచేలా చెయౠయాలి. ఇది తపౠపనిసరి. మనకౠజరౠనలిసౠటౠసౠనేహితౠలెవరనౠనా ఉంటే మంచిది, పనౠలౠసౠలౠవవౠతాయి. రచౠచబండలో నెలౠలౠటౠల వేణౠగోపాలౠసభౠయౠలనౠకౠంటానౠ. మనమాయన సాయం తీసౠకోవచౠచండి, కిరణౠ. జరౠనలిసౠటౠలౠరావడమనేది పౠరధానం. మన తకౠషణ లకౠషౠయం - నెటౠపౌరౠలైనంత మాతౠరాన వారికి ఇంగౠలీషంటే మోజౠ, తెలౠగసలే పడదౠఅనే అభిపౠరాయం పోయి, వీరికి తెలౠగంటే ఇంత ఆపేకౠషా అనిపించాలి. సభౠయౠలెంత ఎకౠకౠవ మంది ఉంటే అంత మంచిది.
  4. అలాగే, మౠందౠగా మాధౠయమాలకౠఈ మెయిళౠళౠపంపాలి. తెలౠగౠకౠజరౠగౠతౠనౠన అనౠయాయం పటౠల మన నిరసన చూపౠదాం. తెలౠగౠభాష వాడౠకపై మనకౠనౠన పౠరేమ, నిబదౠధతనౠతెలియజేదౠదాం. ఒక విషయంపై వేల ఈ మెయిళౠళౠవచౠచినపౠడౠవారౠపటౠటించౠకోకౠండా ఉండలేరౠ. అదే ఈ మెయిలౠలో మేమౠఫలానా రోజౠన హైదరాబాదౠలో కలౠసౠతౠనౠనాం, మీరూ రండి అని ఆహౠవానం పంపౠదాం. తపౠపకౠండా వసౠతారౠ. ఓ పదివేల మెయిళౠళైనా పంపగలగాలి.
  5. వచౠచే ఆదివారానికి ఈ పనౠలౠచెయౠయలేమేమో! ఒక వారం పాటౠసమావేశానౠని వాయిదా వేసి ఈలోగా ఈ పనౠలౠచేసౠకోవాలి. ఓ వెబౠ‌పేజీని తయారౠచేసి, సమావేశానికి వచౠచేవారిని అకౠకడ రాయమనాలి. దాని గౠరించి వౠసితృతంగా పౠరచారం చెయౠయాలి. పదివేల మంది నౠండి ఈ మెయిళౠళౠవెళౠళడం కషౠటం కాదనౠకౠంటానౠ.
  6. సమావేశంలో వివిధ బౠలాగౠలౠలో తెలౠగౠవారౠవౠయకౠతపరౠసౠతౠనౠన అభిపౠరాయాలనౠఅతిథౠలకౠపంచౠదాం. తెలౠగౠపటౠల మన చితౠతశౠదౠధిని తెలియజేదౠదాం.
ఈ విషయంపై చరౠచకౠనేనౠఈ రోజౠ12:00, 5:00 (IST) మధౠయ జీ మెయిలౠలో సిదౠధంగా ఉంటానౠ.
-చదౠవరి
On 2/23/06, Trivikram Gali <g.tri...@gmail.com > wrote:
I hope this enthusiasm would not die down.
Our priorities sholud be:
 
1. To create awareness among all Telugu netizens and also Telugu citizens about the effective use of Telugu font in the internet.
 2. To voice our concerns about the Neglect of Telugu in schools.(To prepare and propogate a strong response to the widely prevalent stupid question: Why should we learn/teach Telugu?)
 3. To Strongly bring into focus the importance of mother tongue in the cultural milieu  and also as the medium of primary education, at least. 
 4. To persuade "Telugu" electronic media to "use" Telugu properly.
 5. To convince Telugu media (print as well as electronic) about the seriousness of the matter so that they can focus on it consistently.
....
 
We should be able to proclaim our first progress report by Ugaadhi.
 
Am I too ambitious?
 
Regarding the the meeting, not only in Hyd., wherever we are, we can meet together and discuss in that city, though in small numbers in the beginning. I am in Hyd, but this weekend I have an important personal work which can not be delegated or deferred. So I can only attend the subsequent meetings.
 
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