Easy Paisa

[Rehan Allah Wala]

http://www.easypaisa.com.pk/

I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.

I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I just saw the web site on what it does.

I am very very very disappointed.

Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.

The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.

Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for stuff that he wants.

Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5% service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for service, and WHY NOT ?

I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and for others.

Rehan Ahmed AllahWala

President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.

http://www.supertec.com/ - Internet Telephony Solutions

Don't Remember Me ? Visit http://www.Rehan.com

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"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

By Gandhi.

"Think Smart, Act Fast, Learn from Others, Be Successfull"

  

[Usman]

AGREED!

I was too disappointed to see, one must go out side.. and cant do it from home or cell. its 2009 and we are still making On Counter deals..

I was expecting WEB, WAP or SMS transaction.. just like many banks already doing and they do it for FREE!

[Ammar Faheem]

LoL! We are privileged people living in cities and towns having cell phones AND computers. Many of us enjoy broadband connectivity at our homes and offices.

But we must realize that the service primarily focuses on Pakistan's rural majority and the 'un-banked' people who are a vast majority. Pakistan only has 25 million bank accounts with over 90 million mobile subscribers.

So for someone who does'nt even have a bank account, going to any easy-paisa agent, creating a virtual account and being able to transact is a big development indeed.

I believe this is an optimistic moment for all of us in Pakistan.

I would also like you to read my blog post which I wrote before the official launch:

http://telecompk.net/2009/10/13/banking-for-the-unbanked-%e2%80%93-mobile-banking-steps-up/

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http://www.ammar360.com

[Faisal Naik]

Lets wait for the entire portfolio and then comment on the overall strategy.
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[Rehan Allah Wala]

well bhai we can only comment on what we can see

if there is a bigger picture, We can not see it yet.

[Ather Alam]

but this service is already available by some of the financial institutions without any fee or charges, I think its better to open an account instead of visiting Tameer Bank

[Azadi Khan]

but the management has to consider the other side of picture i.e. the cyber crime activities which are getting more smarter than the controls.


--- On Fri, 10/16/09, Ather Alam <alam....@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ather Alam <alam....@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Easy Paisa
> To: telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, October 16, 2009, 10:29 AM
> but this service is already
> available by some of the financial institutions without any
> fee or charges, I think its better to open an account
> instead of visiting Tameer Bank
>
>

[Farhan Jaffer]

No need to visit Tameer Bank,

'easypaisa users will have the freedom to make bill payments and send and receive money at thousands of outlets and in addition manage their bank accounts over their mobile phones.'

Like 'easyLoad'

 

-FJ

[Ashar Iqbal]

Well, Telenor went and bought a bank. This indicates some very big plans.

[Ashar Iqbal]

According to records, crime has been getting smarter than controls for
more than 5000 years.

[Arsalan Tariq Mir]

Agreed with Faisal Naik. At the launch, I got a chance to talk to the telenor team on this. They assured of their plans to go beyond just bill payments.

So like Ammar Faheem has said "for someone who does'nt even have a bank account, going to any easy-paisa agent, creating a virtual account and being able to transact is a big development indeed". We must appriciate such a step and look forward on how the branchless banking paradigm unviels and how it will cater the unbanked population.

Best Regards
Arsalan Tariq Mir
Cell: [+92] 032-32455736
http://www.linkedin.com/in/arsalanmir
http://www.telecompk.net

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From: Faisal Naik <fna...@gmail.com>
To: telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 9:00:38
Subject: Re: Easy Paisa

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[Muhammed Nasrullah]

Considering there is MCB Mobile Banking, Mobilink Genie, UBL Orion, Amaana etc; As a first step, EasyPaisa is *MUCH* better done than any of these products/services. Unlike Genie, Orion, MCB etc EP is open for all; not for limited customers. Right now, the focus is on consumer to business transactions which is a safe place to start. Also, there are only 5-6 listed 'businesses' (LESCO etc). But if these guys are smart (and I really hope they are), they will:

1. Open up EasyPaisa for any vendor
2. Allow consumer-consumer transactions

If you are a business and you get yourself listed as a business with EasyPaisa, consumers acorss Pakistan should now be able to pay for your services. I don't see any reason why Telenor would not allow your business to be listed there but once you are; this does open up a wide door for you.

The success of this service will very much depend upon the number of businesses selling services on EP. I do hope that Telenor opens it for all businesses.

WS
-Nash

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com> wrote:

[H.M]

We all are discussing and Telenor is spending huge amount its
marketing.We have to wait and see what are the results,I think this
idea will flop as our nation is not used to these kind of innovative
ideas rather than those typical methods of utility bill etc.

- H.M

On Oct 17, 12:11 am, Muhammed Nasrullah <nasrul...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Considering there is MCB Mobile Banking, Mobilink Genie, UBL Orion, Amaana
> etc; As a first step, EasyPaisa is *MUCH* better done than any of these
> products/services. Unlike Genie, Orion, MCB etc EP is open for all; not for
> limited customers. Right now, the focus is on consumer to business
> transactions which is a safe place to start. Also, there are only 5-6 listed
> 'businesses' (LESCO etc). But if these guys are smart (and I really hope
> they are), they will:
>

>    1. Open up EasyPaisa for any vendor
>    2. Allow consumer-consumer transactions

>
> If you are a business and you get yourself listed as a business with
> EasyPaisa, consumers acorss Pakistan should now be able to pay for your
> services. I don't see any reason why Telenor would not allow your business
> to be listed there but once you are; this does open up a wide door for you.
>
> The success of this service will very much depend upon the number of
> businesses selling services on EP. I do hope that Telenor opens it for all
> businesses.
>
> WS
> -Nash
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Rehan Allah Wala <re...@supertec.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>

> >  *http://www.easypaisa.com.pk/*<http://www.easypaisa.com.pk/>

>
> >  I heard from someone about the launch of Easy Paisa by Telenor.
>
> >  I got extremely excited, that I wanted to go for the launch, but when I
> > just saw the web site on what it does.
>
> >  I am very very very disappointed.
>
> >  Imagine when you can pay for your coke, your samoosa, your amrood, and
> > your mango's via Mobile phone, just by sending an sms.
>
> >  The telecoms have this facility, YET they do not want to promote it, and
> > they are NOT promoting this concept of paying via sms and mobile credit.
>
> >  Telecom Marketing People, WAKE UP, start a campaign showing a Paan wala
> > accepting Mobile credit as payment, which he can then re-use to pay for
> > stuff that he wants.
>
> >  Find you charge 5% let the customer descide if he wants to pay the 5%
> > service fee and 15% tax , but TEACH him to use his mobile balance to pay for
> > service, and WHY NOT ?
>
> >  I hope they will do this soon enough and make money for themselves, and
> > for others.
>
> >  Rehan Ahmed AllahWala
> > President & CEO - Super Technologies Inc.
>

> >  http://www.supertec.com/- Internet Telephony Solutions
>
> >  Don't Remember Me ? Visithttp://www.Rehan.com

[bmug...@gmail.com]

This is the strategy:

Get people used to M-Commerce through an 'Open Consumer System' since there is no other way to educate the Pakistani public and once they start interacting they will ultimately come to know the crux of this whole effort. A general consumer needs a 'hands-on' experience at such a mass level value added service being introduced in the country and since most of our population does not believe in 'subscription' hence this is the only way they will start knowing about alternative way of commerce. Some one had to take this initiative. Last year I was encouraging another operator on the similar lines and also had sent them brochures for various VAS Kiosks to start the awareness campaigning in order for the public to start using the value added services, however they seemed null about this whole thing, but in the end I'm happy that at least someone kicked off a similar Idea! for our people.

There are various flaws in EP's tv commercial and newspaper ads, they left number of gaps which could turn into threats if competitor reacts proactively, but that is a total separate debate and maybe not fit for this distribution list. Product and Concept as far as these both things go and the road taken to infiltrate into the consumers  - no doubt, outclass. This is a good utilization of a banking unit.

EP is going to evolve into a much bigger category of things - they are day and night in consultation with various stakeholders to improve this. That's the way you win when you bring in more heads and generate 1000 ideas instead of sitting in a confined environment and developing products. 3 years ago I had introduced a P&G model to even some P&G people which they weren't aware of, of how to link your community, consumers and competitors to develop a global-class product.

How would a soap brand market their product into a non-hand washing segment? They will first bring the consumer to the water as a first step and then introduce that the soap is a vital part of cleaning yourself. The segments not exposed to water won't be able know the importance of a Soap and the segments not exposed to a Soap won't be able to signify the importance of a Branded Soap.

You need to adopt a strategy to bring in a change inside the market.

Thanks.

[Asad]

I am sick of seeing the Easy Paisa ads on TV. Every second ad is the
Easy Paisa ad. I don't think I will ever be using this facility/
service because of excessive advertising on the pattern of spam. :(

Asad.

[Faisal Khan]

Never say never, you just might be forced to eat your own words! :)

[Fawad Niazi]

I am also sick and tired of easy paisa add BUT....my little child likes it:)

[bmug...@gmail.com]

If you look at today's dawn paper you will see an ad of a consumable item on the front page, please refer the same to the model (orange marked below) I was trying to draw earlier while explaining what is the brand-itinerary of a product like EP to enter and make stronghold into the market. These are universal selling facts it is just that most of the CMOs in Pakistan have less exposure to those theories and strategies and for the people who have and are in regular touch with markets like US and India pick these up in 1 go.

Thanks.

[Tariq Mufti]

Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic: hangs up every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects. This morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google, msn.com, jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and a lot of others are blocked.

 

Anybody else experiencing this?

 

Tariq Mufti

 

 

 

 

 

[Faisal Khan]

All the time - switched to OpenDNS - and have never looked back! Make
sure you enable the DNS entries in PTCL's modem itself.

[Hassan Shabbir]

YES !!! i also was facing the same problem with name resolution servers of PTCL, I switched to opendns and its working fine. just use 208.67.222.222 and u'll be good to go.
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On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariq...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Tee Emm]

For the benefit of the list, the IP addresses for the OpenDNS servers are: 

• 
  
• 208.67.222.222
• 208.67.220.220

-t

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[Ammar Faheem]

After remaining erratic and frequently disconnecting over the past week and a half, my PTCL DSL connection has stopped functioning altogether. The DSL light does not even blink. The router is inaccessible via 192.168.1.1 and the tech-support people are the least helpful.

 

This is getting very frustrating.

 

Any help or suggestions?

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[tenveer]

Same prob as described by Ammar over the period described by him .....but now from last two days its working fine and suffered only from two disconnections compared to one every 10 min.

[Shaheer Khan]

As daft as this may sound, turn off your router, plug out the
telephone wire from the modem, then reboot. Wait a while. Can you
access the interface?

If so, try "refreshing" the settings. For copper, the settins are
0/103 (for those VPI and VCI settings). On Optic, it's 8/81 (or 82 -
can't remember).

You'll need your DSL username and password - call up 1218 and ask for
the supervisor, or a technical support officer if the frontline CSRs
can't help (which is a 90% probability).

Note that it can be isolated to your exchanges as well.

On Nov 10, 3:13 pm, tenveer <ten.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Same prob as described by Ammar over the period described by him .....but
> now from last two days its working fine and suffered only from two
> disconnections compared to one every 10 min.
>

> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Ammar Faheem <ammar.fah...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > After remaining erratic and frequently disconnecting over the past week and
> > a half, my PTCL DSL connection has stopped functioning altogether. The DSL
> > light does not even blink. The router is inaccessible via 192.168.1.1 and
> > the tech-support people are the least helpful.
>
> > This is getting very frustrating.
>
> > Any help or suggestions?
>

> > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Tee Emm <tariq.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> *For the benefit of the list, the IP addresses for the OpenDNS servers
> >> are: *
> >> *
>
> >>    -
> >>    - 208.67.222.222
> >>    - 208.67.220.220
>
> >> *
>
> >> -t

>
> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Faisal Khan <babushk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> All the time - switched to OpenDNS - and have never looked back! Make
> >>> sure you enable the DNS entries in PTCL's modem itself.
>

> >>> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Tariq Mufti <tariqmu...@gmail.com>

> >>> wrote:
> >>> > Since Saturday morning, my PTCL DSL service has been very erratic:
> >>> hangs up
> >>> > every so often, slows down and then spurts and frequently disconnects.
> >>> This
> >>> > morning it has stayed connected for the last four hours; Google,
> >>> msn.com,
> >>> > jang-group, Daily Times and NYT are fine, but is all yahoo domains and
> >>> a lot
> >>> > of others are blocked.
>
> >>> > Anybody else experiencing this?
>
> >>> > Tariq Mufti
>
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