EVDO Feedback

[_dm+]

Dear All,

Is there anyone who can provide me any personal feedback regarding EVDO?

Many thanks,
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+92-322-2456916
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Engineer - IT Network Infrastructure and Security
Augere Pakistan

[Muhammad Shomail Haider]

I have been using EVDO for awhile, today was the only day when I had low signals that was for couple of minutes, that's more then excepable for me. However, for about a month or so, it's been running smooth.  256 kbps what i'm getting all the time. Covering pretty much all around the Karachi, I live in far end of North Nazimabad, worked perfect, a friend of mine using in New Karachi, no issues there as well.

 

Device is slight expensive but I guess it's worthed.

 

Shomail

[Muhammad Asif Rao]

EVDO is tested technology unlike wimax, and till now its working gr8
and complains are rare.

@$IF

On Nov 11, 12:49 pm, _dm+ <danish.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Is there anyone who can provide me any personal feedback regarding EVDO?
>
> Many thanks,
> --
> _dm+
>

> +92-322-2456916http://digitalogics.wordpress.com

[R M]

Can anyone provide the no of connections being sold in karachi for

Worldcall EVDO
Wateen Wimax
Mobilink Wimax
PTCL DSL
Maxcom DSL
Linkdotnet DSL

thanks in advance

RM

On Nov 11, 12:49 pm, _dm+ <danish.must...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> Is there anyone who can provide me any personal feedback regarding EVDO?
>
> Many thanks,
> --
> _dm+
>

> +92-322-2456916http://digitalogics.wordpress.com

[Faraz Javed Awan]

 

I can tell you about Mobilink WiMax and EVDO

 

WiMax 2000 connections

EVDO 3500 connections

 

Regards

Faraz Awan

 

Regards
Faraz Javed Awan

[R M]

the info requested is the no of connections being sold per day in
karachi

thanks

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[Faraz Javed Awan]

 

Here you go On a daily basis Avg.

 

EVDO 60 per day

 

On 11/12/08, R M <ranam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Regards
Faraz Javed Awan

[R M]

The info available on this forum then boils down to these

EVDO 60 Orders per day in Karachi
Mobilink+Wateen 50-100 orders per day in Karachi
LINKdotNet 100 Activations per day Countrywide

How about Maxcom and PTCL? what is their share specially in karachi?
Any one?

Waiting for your input

thanks

RM

On Nov 12, 12:57 pm, R M <ranamush...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Khalid Khan]

I have been using PTCL EVDo for 2 months now, and its working
perfectly fine. I get speeds max 60kbps.

Khalid Naveed Khan
Sr Network Engineer
NESPAK Lahore

On Nov 12, 2:04 pm, "Faraz Javed Awan" <faraz.j.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here you go On a daily basis Avg.
>
> EVDO 60 per day
>

> --
> Regards
> Faraz Javed Awan

[Shiraz]

Rough estimate for PTCL's country wide broadband activations: 450/day

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[Rehan Jafry]

This analysis is really amazing. I think you must consider the current financial crisis as well where people dont have enough money to buy food for their survival.

 

 

What do you think my friend (Rana Mushtaq ) ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rehan Jafry

[R M]

Thanks. A figure for Karachi would be really helpful :)

RM

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[Sameer Bokhari]

Aparently consumer spending in Pakistan is yet to take a full blown hit ( especially for those segments that are the target markets for these products) by these two factors ie Financial Crisis (Global + Local) and Inflation.

 

If you have an interest in economics or finance you can read this article that appeared in the The Daily DAWN

 

Sameer

[Tee Emm]

Would you be distributing toffees  to us when this analysis is complete? :) And sorry in advance if the guess is incorrect.

-T

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[Waqa]

More Realistic figures (Karachi only):

Worldcall EVDO -- 25/day
Wateen Wimax -- 20/day
Mobilink Wimax -- 125/day
PTCL DSL -- 25/day
Linkdotnet DSL -- 20/day

Furthermore, keeping in view service of EVDO & Infinity are only
available in Karachi. On the other hand, they have the advantage of
independency from any 3rd party medium as LDN don't hv.
Service level is excellent for Infinity, EVDO & LDN but should not
forget the factor of more customer / bad service.Picture would be more
cleared once they will be at optimum utilization of core.

CHEERSS!!!!!

[R M]

I shall let you know as i conclude my analysis, At the moment what we
need to know is whether this figure is sustainable or not and for how
long!

RM

On Nov 13, 4:04 pm, "Rehan Jafry" <rehanja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This analysis is really amazing. I think you must consider the current
> financial crisis as well where people dont have enough money to buy food for
> their survival.
>
> What do you think my friend (Rana Mushtaq ) ?
>

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> Rehan Jafry- Hide quoted text -

[R M]

Your guess is 100% ...........................incorrect :)
but if those Fanta toffees are still as cheap as they used to be
sometime back, everyone is welcome :)

RM


On Nov 13, 5:29 pm, "Tee Emm" <tariq.must...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Would you be distributing toffees <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/5/50a/a5b> to

[bmug...@gmail.com]

Are these worldwide sales figures per day for infinity?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Waqa <waqara...@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:48:23
To: Telecom Grid Pakistan<telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: EVDO Feedback

[bmug...@gmail.com]

Pakistani consumer is not affected by the global financial crisis. Our country crisis is not linked to that.

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From: "Sameer Bokhari" <same...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:02:53 +0500
To: <telecom-gr...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: EVDO Feedback

[Najam Ali]

Dear what you want to know exactly shhot.

 

Regards

 

Syed Najam Ali
Sr. Manager Corporate Sales
SME's & Channels
PTCL Headquarters (South)
Hatim Alvi Road,
Behind Clifton Exchange,
Karachi, Pakistan.
Direct Tel # +92-21-5879553
Fax # +92-21-5375443
Mobile # +92-300-829-7425  

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:49 PM, _dm+ <danish....@gmail.com> wrote:

[Muhammad Shomail Haider]

I really don't understand the economic crisis, I see a pathan walking down the street with that garbage bag and holding a Nokia 3310, let not even talk about the once on cycle some of them even have a better  Cellphone then I do  :S

However; back to the original topic, can anyone compare this services as I haven't heard any complain so far for EVDO. If it is so good why would anyone go for anything else even if it's mobilink infinity, you can move around the building but can't take if around the city.

Regards,

Shomail

[Khalid Khan]

On Nov 13, 3:15 pm, Khalid Khan <knk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been using PTCL EVDo for 2 months now, and its working
> perfectly fine. I get speeds max 60kbps.
>

Correction, 60 KB/sec or 512kbps

[Rehan Jafry]

  I think Mobility / Cell hopping   is  not allowed by  PTA and  whether it is wateen / Mobilink infinity or  EVDO  you cannot  take it around the city ( i mean mobility). So far every thing is  802.16 d which means  fixed and nomadic.

 

 

 

 

Regards,

 

Rehan ul hassan Jafry

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Rehan Jafry

[Uzair Ahmed]

I think this is stricted to WLL Voice operators as authority do not
allow WLL operator to use HO/TO on the network but its is limited to
Voice only but you can use Data everwhere in a city and also roam to
other cities (Telecom region where WLL have license). I know Telecard
PCMCIA card gave roaming in 5 cities, I am talking about two years
back. So no restriction of territories on Data but for Voice its
single Cell Mobility.

Uzair

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[Najam Ali]

well why you have heard any complain for EVDO because its not launched yet. Stay tuned it will be launched soon in all major cities. Once umbrella coverage is there then you can take it everywhere while connected. i have used it for a while and its cool. my advise STAY TUNED soon you will hear it, lets hope no compalin about the services.

 

Cheers

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[Haris Shamsi]

Also for VoIP there are no issues in nomadicity - I think its about
time to have one converged licence, its childish to trying caping
technology although it makes perfect sense for cellular coompanies
.....

[KO]

I thought the way there were implementing the "fixed" part is by not handing over on the fly to other cells, but if you "stop" and connect to any one cell anywhere that works - i.e you can take your wateen box anywhere in the region, likewise with the Mobilink Infinity box.

I think the spirit of the law is that these boxes should only work within designated areas, but they seem to work everywhere...

[Waqa]

As per my information, Wateen & Infinity are on 802.16e.Furthermore as
per PTA law, You can move the data around anywhere but not along with
voice.
I think, more concern should be shown about blanket coverage & service
of two true IP/Data Giants(Wateen & Infinity). ..........?????
Happy Pakistan & Regards!

[Haris Shamsi]

Other than koreas wibro, I think wimax - throughout the world has been
sold as nomadic not mobile , isn't it ?

[Waqa]

Yes Haris, Mobile Wimax is not been used commercially else where but
by some of the non-commercial agencies in western countries.

Regards!
Happy Pakistan

[_dm+]

As far as my information is concerned and with some discussion with a Team lead of Alcatel Wimax Team (who worked for Mobilink Infinity), everybody is using equipment of 802.16e and the license of 802.16d, because of the  eye watering price of .16e license.

So you can still roam but so called 'hand-off' wont be supported, so any established session would break but after a while the CPE will synch itself with the new BTS in range.

Regards,

D

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http://digitalogics.wordpress.com
Engineer - IT Network Infrastructure and Security
Augere Pakistan

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[Awais Naseer]

What does the wireless mean??? What is the use of a wireless service when it doesnot support mobility??? Wireless is meant to provide support for every subscriber, everywhere. It is meant to provide support for mobile employees, mobile applications etc. It is worthwhile when I can stay connected on Skype, 24 hours a day. It is cost-effective when it helps me to find my way through google maps when I am away from my hometown. It means to me when I am alerted for every new email in my inbox!

 

If someone says that we can roam with wimax with such a huge CPE then it is called "Portable" not mobile! EVDO is a good initiative towards mobility, because the WLL is metro-level and hand off problem starts after huge distances. In-fact, wimax is not much as it is said! Internationally, wimax has not found much success as by the FTTH.

 

If I am not wrong, wimax is less expensive at the service provider side than FTTH. Thats why, these market players present wimax as the final solution to the broadband.

 

I salute Micronet Broadband, which not only brought broadband to Pakistan through their DSL service in 2002, but have also proved themselve by bringing FTTH to Pakistan in the name of NAYATEL.

 

Don't waste your time with "STATIC WIMAX", just go for DSL, EVDO or the Broadband Leader- The FTTH (If you are lucky enough to reside in Islamabad -as NAYATEL FTTH is only available in Islamabad)

 

Awais Naseer

owa...@gmail.com

Skype ID: awais.naseer

(I am a Telecom Student)

[R M]

Thank your everyone for your valuable input. Since Mobilink looks to
be taking the lead in Karachi with lets say 50-100 connections per
day, this has to be backed by well established Sales Channels. Any one
has a no for these? Like

No of direct & indirect resellers in Karachi?
Strength of Direct Sales & Telesales Teams?
Share of each channel in total sales?

Thanks in advance

RM

[Faraz Javed Awan]

 

all of the franchises i.e. indirect sales channel are selling the connections

2nd thing they have their own direct sales team comprising of around 20 people all master in their field [trust me they are real cream of sales in Mobilink...]

Telesales is not their concerns

So, 1st according to sales are direct sales 2nd indirect ones and last by own employees through refernces ....

 

 

Regards
Faraz Javed Awan

[Waqa]

Adding up, Mobilink Infinity is truly taking advantage of established
brand name of Mobilink GSM (having 32million users). Make Sense:) as
end of the day, they are making NUMBERS.
But still, lots of efforts are required to make full contribution to
the Happy Pakistan.

[Haris Shamsi]

@Awais Naseer

Wireless is meant for mobility ? I am not to sure what is your point
here, but a LOT of wireless is fixed and nomadic in the world.
Starting from point to point till some staellite technologies......

Always remeber that if you are a power users, that doesn't mean all of
the consumer/market thinks your way. Power users are usually 3-5
percent of market size and business plans are formulated for the
bigger chunk

As techie you might like the nayatel network most but when you study
their business model you will see that how feasable it is in terms of
payback and roi

No one is here for charity :)

[R M]

Thanks Faraz. But i called a couple of their franchises. The rep at
Saddar franchise told me that the connection could be arranged on a 1
day notice and he included 2k Installation cost in the tarriff which
is not there on their website.

2 or 3 other reps at other franchises got confused when they heard the
word Infinity and requested either to call back after an hour or call
the helpline.

I think the modus operandi is different

RM

On Nov 17, 7:47 pm, "Faraz Javed Awan" <faraz.j.a...@gmail.com> wrote:
> all of the franchises i.e. indirect sales channel are selling the
> connections
> 2nd thing they have their own direct sales team comprising of around 20
> people all master in their field [trust me they are real cream of sales in
> Mobilink...]
> Telesales is not their concerns
> So, 1st according to sales are direct sales 2nd indirect ones and last by
> own employees through refernces ....
>

> On 11/17/08, R M <ranamush...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thank your everyone for your valuable input. Since Mobilink looks to
> > be taking the lead in Karachi with lets say 50-100 connections per
> > day, this has to be backed by well established Sales Channels. Any one
> > has a no for these? Like
>
> > No of direct & indirect resellers in Karachi?
> > Strength of Direct Sales & Telesales Teams?
> > Share of each channel in total sales?
>
> > Thanks in advance
>
> > RM
>
> > On Nov 13, 4:48 pm, Waqa <waqarahme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > More Realistic figures (Karachi only):
>
> > > Worldcall EVDO -- 25/day
> > > Wateen Wimax -- 20/day
> > > Mobilink Wimax -- 125/day
> > > PTCL DSL -- 25/day
> > > Linkdotnet DSL -- 20/day
>
> > > Furthermore, keeping in view service of EVDO & Infinity are only
> > > available in Karachi. On the other hand, they have the advantage of
> > > independency from any 3rd party medium as LDN don't hv.
> > > Service level is excellent for Infinity, EVDO & LDN but should not
> > > forget the factor of more customer / bad service.Picture would be more
> > > cleared once they will be at optimum utilization of core.
>
> > > CHEERSS!!!!!
>

> --
> Regards
> Faraz Javed Awan- Hide quoted text -

[Faraz Javed Awan]

 

If the franchises are providing you complete information you can email directly to custom...@mobilink.net stating the full name of franchise with date and if possible the person you have spoken to. It will take around a day time and you will receive a positive reply from them.

 

 

Regards
Faraz Javed Awan

[Waqa]

As per my information, Franchise network is not yet operational but
service centres are. I have also personally experienced 369 (from
Mobilink Number) or 021-111300369 and well entertained by staff
members.......

Regards & Happy Pakistan!!!!

[R M]

Can anyone give a no of installations/orders for Lahore and islamabad
regions for these operators also :)

Lahore
PTCL DSL
Wateen Wimax
Worldcall Fiber/Cable


Islamabad
Nayatel Fiber
MBL & PTCL DSL
Wateen WiMax

Thanks

> > CHEERSS!!!!!- Hide quoted text -

[allama]

http://pforpositive.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/wordcall-evdo-experience/

[Sameer Bokhari]

This is from the FAQ section on http://www.worldcall.net.pk/evdo.html

"

Q6. Will I be able to get full speed?

This depends opon how far you stay from Worldcall's CDMA Tower, either with EVDO network or CDMA1x. You will get good speeds if the tower is within 2-4kms.

  "

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: allama

To: Telecom Grid Pakistan

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:24 AM

Subject: Re: EVDO Feedback

http://pforpositive.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/wordcall-evdo-experience/

[Mudassar]

The scheduled launch is December 1st 2008 by PTCL in all the major
cities.

On Nov 15, 3:52 pm, "Najam Ali" <snajam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well why you have heard any complain for EVDO because its not launched yet.
> Stay tuned it will be launched soon in all major cities. Once umbrella
> coverage is there then you can take it everywhere while connected. i have
> used it for a while and its cool. my advise STAY TUNED soon you will hear
> it, lets hope no compalin about the services.
>
> Cheers
>

> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Muhammad Shomail Haider <msh0...@gmail.com

>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > I really don't understand the economic crisis, I see a pathan walking down
> > the street with that garbage bag and holding a Nokia 3310, let not even talk
> > about the once on cycle some of them even have a better  Cellphone then I
> > do  :S
>
> > However; back to the original topic, can anyone compare this services as I
> > haven't heard any complain so far for EVDO. If it is so good why would
> > anyone go for anything else even if it's mobilink infinity, you can move
> > around the building but can't take if around the city.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Shomail
>

> > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Najam Ali <snajam...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Dear what you want to know exactly shhot.
>
> >> Regards
>
> >> Syed Najam Ali
> >> Sr. Manager Corporate Sales
> >> SME's & Channels
> >> PTCL Headquarters (South)
> >> Hatim Alvi Road,
> >> Behind Clifton Exchange,
> >> Karachi, Pakistan.
> >> Direct Tel # +92-21-5879553
> >> Fax # +92-21-5375443
> >> Mobile # +92-300-829-7425
>