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  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan</id>
  <title type="text">Telecom Grid Pakistan Google Group</title>
  <subtitle type="text">
  TGP is a virtual coffee table for the insiders of Pakistan telecoms industry. 800+ members from ISPs to cellcos &amp; everything in between, the forum was initially woven in May 07 around Pakistani telecom blogs and their loyal readers. Actively monitored for quality contents, spam and off-topics.
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  <updated>2009-11-12T22:19:04Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Mohammad Majeed</name>
  <email>mmu...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T22:19:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/222d2bcbd493641c?show_docid=222d2bcbd493641c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/222d2bcbd493641c?show_docid=222d2bcbd493641c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Youtube on Telenor Blackberry Services</title>
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  If you are using edge and your device supports the media player yes &lt;br&gt; you can. But again u may get buffering. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Regards &lt;br&gt; Munaf &lt;br&gt; Server4Sale &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Sent from my mobile device
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Shaheer Khan</name>
  <email>shaheer.a.k...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T18:31:34Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/2dbbf1641f43f469?show_docid=2dbbf1641f43f469</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/2dbbf1641f43f469?show_docid=2dbbf1641f43f469"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Youtube on Telenor Blackberry Services</title>
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  I&#39;ve been unsuccessful in opening Youtube links via RTSP. Apparently, &lt;br&gt; Warid supports it. And call me crazy, but I tested it on djuice. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I think it&#39;s more of a DNS related blocking than a lack of support. If &lt;br&gt; you change the DNS servers in your phone to, say, TW1&#39;s servers, you &lt;br&gt; might be able to use it (the most I managed to get was a &amp;quot;loading&amp;quot;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Shahzad Alam</name>
  <email>shahz...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T18:30:25Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/a383310881635d06?show_docid=a383310881635d06</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/a383310881635d06?show_docid=a383310881635d06"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
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  Guys, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Love to comments on this thread but have limited time right now due to &lt;br&gt; travel schedule. Will respond in detail. But just as an example please find &lt;br&gt; below a successfull story in another developed market.......technology, &lt;br&gt; planning, reachability, cost effectiveness and successful business plan
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>liveunplugged@hotmail.com</name>
  <email>bmugh...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T17:57:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/b47b088c3dfd28be?show_docid=b47b088c3dfd28be</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/b47b088c3dfd28be?show_docid=b47b088c3dfd28be"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
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  *1. If Clearwire is spending so much, then also look at size of the country &lt;br&gt; + population + reach they are planning to target. ** &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;2. They&#39;re spending so much because it works better in developed countries &lt;br&gt; than the developing nations. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;3. The technology is produced to provide and easy internet solution to an
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Haris Shamsi</name>
  <email>haris.sha...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T17:11:35Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/c85ce4afd63ecf3b?show_docid=c85ce4afd63ecf3b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/c85ce4afd63ecf3b?show_docid=c85ce4afd63ecf3b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
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  Faisal I believe in this era, cultural change could happen pretty &lt;br&gt; fast. There could be examples where this economy showed stuobrness &lt;br&gt; against a cultural change but I can put across many examples where a &lt;br&gt; swift and fast paced change occured. Who would have imagine the &lt;br&gt; cellular penetration in pakistan or Mcdonalds getting successful in
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Muhammad Waqar</name>
  <email>waqar...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T16:15:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/736fc0990d3663fd?show_docid=736fc0990d3663fd</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/736fc0990d3663fd?show_docid=736fc0990d3663fd"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
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  I do agree with Mr. Shamsi. WiMAX has proved to have a strong revenue &lt;br&gt; generation source in BB market. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Regards &lt;br&gt; __________________ &lt;br&gt; Muhammad Waqar &lt;br&gt; +92-(0)300-858 39 63 &lt;br&gt; +92-(0)333-911 33 30
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Faisal Khan</name>
  <email>babushk...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T15:55:17Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/2c47992969cfe5e0?show_docid=2c47992969cfe5e0</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/2c47992969cfe5e0?show_docid=2c47992969cfe5e0"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
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  Haris: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;IIRC Panasonic spent $7 million on a study as to why people in the &lt;br&gt; Middle East, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh don&#39;t use voice mail / &lt;br&gt; answering machines. I believe it was something to do with the culture &lt;br&gt; rather than economics, etc. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I personally believe our Internet Marketing (connectivity and usage
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Haris Shamsi</name>
  <email>haris.sha...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T16:01:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/211c18e49d45d893?show_docid=211c18e49d45d893</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/211c18e49d45d893?show_docid=211c18e49d45d893"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
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  So Rizwan, why do you think clear wire raised so much money in a &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;developed&amp;quot; country to further rollout wimax ? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Sent from my mobile device
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Rizwan Sarwar</name>
  <email>rsar...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T14:52:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/874be3e830b912a4?show_docid=874be3e830b912a4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/874be3e830b912a4?show_docid=874be3e830b912a4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Correct Saqib, WiMax is not going to work in developed countries because the &lt;br&gt; alternatives infrastructures are well established. Wired being the dominant &lt;br&gt; form and wireless (3G, WiFi) being the 2nd best option available. It makes &lt;br&gt; sense for mobile providers too, they already have infrastructure in place to
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Saqib Ilyas</name>
  <email>msa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T12:45:05Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/36a8d1181203a21f?show_docid=36a8d1181203a21f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/36a8d1181203a21f?show_docid=36a8d1181203a21f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Youtube on Telenor Blackberry Services</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  A former student of mine has said on his Facebook wall that he can watch &lt;br&gt; Youtube videos on his BB. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Muhammad Saqib Ilyas &lt;br&gt; PhD Student, Computer Science and Engineering &lt;br&gt; Lahore University of Management Sciences
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Saqib Ilyas</name>
  <email>msa...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T12:51:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/fb6d734fa259b87b?show_docid=fb6d734fa259b87b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/fb6d734fa259b87b?show_docid=fb6d734fa259b87b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Haris &lt;br&gt; My knowledge base suggests that the frequency is such that the signal &lt;br&gt; penetration through walls is poor. Hence if your CPE is near a window, your &lt;br&gt; experience is good, otherwise it is poor. Unless of course you get a roof &lt;br&gt; mount antenna which is a few extra bucks. &lt;br&gt; In a country like Pakistan where landline quality is still bad even for many
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Ahmad, Shakeel</name>
  <email>shakeelah...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T11:32:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/b379ebde1b1f3e60?show_docid=b379ebde1b1f3e60</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/aac22cba85d1ba73/b379ebde1b1f3e60?show_docid=b379ebde1b1f3e60"/>
  <title type="text">Youtube on Telenor Blackberry Services</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  All, &lt;br&gt; Have anyone able to get youtube working on Telenor BIS/BES services ? &lt;br&gt; Apparently .. Telenor claims on their helpline that no operator in Pakistan &lt;br&gt; is able to do it as its not supported etc... but i&#39;ve heard people are using &lt;br&gt; it on Warid &amp;amp; Mobilink. Besides I have also used it on ATT using same &lt;br&gt; handset but Telenor CSR is sticking to the point that US network is 3G and I
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Haris Shamsi</name>
  <email>haris.sha...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-12T09:35:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/f4a25f1ea8b739de?show_docid=f4a25f1ea8b739de</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/5462770a788190be/f4a25f1ea8b739de?show_docid=f4a25f1ea8b739de"/>
  <title type="text">Whats the Future of WiMAX in Pakistan</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  While there is a strong group of people who have always rejected WiMAX as a &lt;br&gt; substitute of other Mediums of Internet Connection in Pakistan, 3-4 Major &lt;br&gt; Players in Pakistan Kept investing in to WiMAX arena till early 2008. Rather &lt;br&gt; couple of them are still investing like Augere and Wi-Tribe. Whether the &lt;br&gt; operators in general got the success or not there is no denial to the fact
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Adnan Zafar Khawaja</name>
  <email>adnan...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-11T22:11:50Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/2eab7667f66f6f4b/1d9b67c0ba036b71?show_docid=1d9b67c0ba036b71</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/2eab7667f66f6f4b/1d9b67c0ba036b71?show_docid=1d9b67c0ba036b71"/>
  <title type="text">Re: iPhone evdo?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  EVDO devices have just come in vogue in Pakistan which are primarily EVDO &lt;br&gt; USB devices. These are being used as a result of WLL service offering, and &lt;br&gt; is not to be confused with the mobile phone services which is yet to be &lt;br&gt; augmented with 3G after relevant license awards. So it&#39;ll be some time &lt;br&gt; before the 3G phones like the ones you mentioned will hit the market.
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Tee Emm</name>
  <email>tariq.must...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-11T15:56:00Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/2eab7667f66f6f4b/623ab2f8c9ee9a66?show_docid=623ab2f8c9ee9a66</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/2eab7667f66f6f4b/623ab2f8c9ee9a66?show_docid=623ab2f8c9ee9a66"/>
  <title type="text">Re: iPhone evdo?</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  You ain&#39;t seen nothing yet ;)
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